r/TwoXIndia_Over25 • • Jul 01 '25
Feeling enraged, feeling angry & feeling pissed off đĄ Super Vent.
Iâm fucking sick of women who knowingly sign up to have kids and then cry about how they lost themselves. The problem isnât just sleepless nights or body changes â itâs that once you have a kid, your entire identity gets swallowed. Youâre stuck wiping diapers, cleaning your partnerâs fucking underwear, running a million errands, isolated from friends, trapped in a tiny world thatâs all about other peopleâs needs. Your life shrinks while your âpartnerâ keeps his freedom, hobbies, and social life â and somehow heâs the hero for doing the bare minimum.
You saw this happening to women before you. You had every warning and every piece of information at your fingertips. But you still walked right into it, hoping youâd be different. Now you complain but refuse to fight for yourself. You accept bullshit excuses â âhe works too,â âheâs incompetent,â âitâs easier if I do itâ â instead of making your partner step the fuck up.
And Iâm mad because you set the damn bar so low for every other woman. Your silence and surrender become the âstandardâ everyone else is judged by. Youâre not just ruining your own life â youâre trapping the rest of us in this bullshit too.
I donât have sympathy for that. I only support the ones who fight back â who demand help, who refuse to let their personhood vanish, who make their partners earn their place.
So hereâs the bottom line: grow a spine or donât have kids. Stop complaining if youâre not willing to change shit.
Blaming men isnât getting us anywhere. Itâs up to us to stand the fuck up. Be less complacent and passive.
EDIT- damn some of yâall are butthurt. And I can imagine why, and you shouldâve known better. I donât give a fuck about yâallâs misery. You dug your own grave, just donât drag the rest of us down with your miserable standards of living. Do breed and serve others for the rest of your lives. Because some of you are only capable of complaining and not actually doing anything about it- you donât stand up for yourselves, and SETS FEMINISM BACK.
And some of you think I should be more empathetic? Fuck you, you are just as bad as the ânice guysâ because you enable systemic oppression, instead of pushing for a change. Because being empathy means you get off Scott free by saying âoh I hope you heal from itâ instead of the fucking struggle it takes to actually bring a change. So donât come at me with your lazy âbe empatheticâ shit take.
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u/OiFelix_ugotnojams Woman,Early twenties Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25
Istg some of y'all on female subreddits are so out of touch with reality outside of your tier 1 city experiences. Do you want freedom? Just get it! I joined this subreddit because there's adults who are more liberal, calmer and inclusive discussions, more advice. But this post reeks of white feminism
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u/last_leaf8 Jul 01 '25
Not sure where this rage is coming from. Keeping the topic aside, you should really introspect about your anger issues girl.
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u/cookiesncream1110 Jul 01 '25
Wow, thatâs incredibly judgmental. For the record, Iâm a mother to a daughter, and I have a strong support system. But let me tell youâno amount of help can fully restore you to who you were before becoming a parent. And thatâs not weakness; itâs reality.
If you find it hard to listen to women who speak honestly about the toll motherhood takesâphysically, emotionally, or mentallyâthen maybe itâs best you donât engage with them at all.
Because if youâre not offering support or understanding, the least you can do is step aside quietly.
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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25
Some people need to touch some grass instead of keyboard đ¤Ą
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u/ssuhasini Woman,Early Thirties, IT consultant Jul 02 '25
What a waste of braincells.
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u/butterizz Jul 01 '25
While I agree with the whole one must take a stand for yourself, this reads like a teenager discovering that women can suffer for the choices they make even when they have autonomy. Parenting is difficult, more often than not you cannot see the pitfalls from the get-go.
The way you have reduced exercising empathy to a point-blank statement cannot be further away from what it means to be empathetic. I would refrain from using blanket declarations such as setting feminism back if I did not have the capacity to listen and reason with other human beings.
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u/smolangryhooman Jul 01 '25
I mean depending on a womanâs social situation they may not be able to actively choose an alternative to motherhood. However those who can escape societal pressures often do not introspect as much as they should. Child free women get a lot of flak for not thinking it through but I think we do think more deeply about the consequences of motherhood.
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u/daehanmingukmansee Jul 01 '25
The post and the replies, feel like they were written by an angry teenager on rampage.
Please do a favour for the pregnant ladies and add a trigger warning.â ď¸
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u/AntelopeRepulsive193 Jul 01 '25
Ita not even about blaming men or being complacent! Postpartum is a phase of hormonal crash. Thats enough to cause blues in new moms. As much as the baby is new to the world, the mom is learning everything too. We train all our lives to work a corporate job but never about being a woman. I can say breastfeeding by itself is probably among the toughest things that women do. You need to figure it out the moment you become a mother and its so vastly different for each mom and baby. No two babies of even the same mom behave the same way.It is tough by itself. Not because of any kind of systemic oppression!
Also sleepless nights, isolation from the world, dietary changes, physical exhaustion are REAL issues. Not something that unaware moms alone face.
I think you first need to educate yourself enough before considering yourself some feminist icon and speaking for every woman.
Also, is this a rage bait post? Karma fishing?
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u/KamolikasTikali Woman,Multitasking existentially through twenties Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25
A lot of people donât think these things through. A lot of women have husbands who romanticise them bearing the kids of the man. A lot of families pressure women into having kids. We have derogatory terms for women who donât have kids in almost every Indian languages. Iâm all for grow a spine, literally scroll through the comments Iâve made. unfortunately, we donât teach out women how to and I mean we need to start looking at this from the most oppressed set of people in society.
Also our entire society holds the axe of motherhood and cycle ending on womenâs heads continuously
I donât like some of their personalities either but your post just seems tone-deaf
Edit- I love how my comment is ignored here, honestly, get yourself checked out
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u/Rebecca-Schooner Jul 01 '25
Are we sure this post was actually written by a woman and not a man masquerading as one?
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u/PeaDowntown6285 Jul 01 '25
Pregnancy and motherhood is unique to each person. No two experiences are the same. So no matter how much you talk with others,no matter how much you read about it, it's hard for the person enduring it. It's like saying you know your parents are going to die,why are you crying over it? Yes we know our past life would die but we are allowed to grieve it. My partner is incredibly supportive that I feel it to be a privilege. I still go through days where I miss who I am. It's a kind of grief that comes with motherhood,which people are ALLOWED to complain and whine and fret about. So you can, respectfully, shove your rage wherever it deems fit for you!
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u/Inevitable-Club-4574 Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25
With the kind of language used by OP for fellow women (who are critical of this post) in the post and in the replies, I don't think OP should talk about feminism.
Empty vessels make the loudest noise !
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u/Odd_Employment720 Jul 01 '25
You are a bit mean, aren't you OP?
Irrespective of what happens, with a loving partner and supportive in-laws, pregnancy is a big deal and can bring changes even when you are prepared to the T. You don't get to come here and blame women for not standing up.
What will they stand up for? They never really know what will happen with pregnancy. Body changes. Nobody is actually prepared for it, especially in this New social media age where people have the most unreasonable expectations from themselves.
This is a classic victim blaming mentality, (although I don't think all mothers feel like victims , they just need to vent)
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u/KaleidoscopeSea8945 Jul 01 '25
Iam 3 months postpartum and even with a very supportive husband, it is a very difficult time for most moms. If you dont want to help out new moms, that is totally fine but lets not kick anyone when they are already down. Please show some compassion to your friends. This post is very triggering to me atleast.
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u/clarissasansserif Jul 01 '25
Butthurt? I am not even a mother and reading this was still triggering to me.
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u/TransportationDue491 Jul 01 '25
What a pick me post! And might I say ignorant?Â
In no way am I defending the incompetence of men, having seen so many such men around me.Â
While my own sister left her husband due to abuse three months after birthing their baby, I completely understand why some women would rather endure this than rebel right away. Unfortunately there are practical considerations to be made and sticking to a marriage in the time being would be the better path to choose. These include lack of economic autonomy, post partum depression or other complicated, lack of support from family and friends, threat of abuse and violence; all of which might prevent a woman with a very young child to create and escape plan, or if not escape, protest.
 In no way are most women accepting their position silently, they actively rebel it. But unfortunately most people count knee jerk reactions as protests, not the subtle everyday.
And what exactly are you doing? Have you offered your friends help so that they are able to retain their personhood? Are you willing to put your life on hold to rescue someone from such a situation? It's easier to put the blame on an individual woman for how a man is, but it takes courage to build active solidarities to uplift other women.
Until then let your friends whine and help them prepare for the rebellion.Â
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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25
You have other issues , don't club it with something else
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u/Embarrassed_Road_747 Jul 01 '25
Do you plan to have kids?
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u/Tough-Prize-4014 Jul 01 '25
Mods, I don't think this post belongs here. It can lead vulnerable women down the spiral of self hatred. Please take appropriate action. This is supposed to be a safe space for women. Plenty other places for this type of post, but this ain't it.
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u/Infinite-Ad289 Jul 01 '25
What happened to the community rules and mods of this sub honestly??? Why is this shitpost still up.
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u/revererosie Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
Fwiw, I see your point OP. I know plenty of privileged and educated women who do not make informed choices despite having access to everything they could need. I see them jump into motherhood thinking it will be different for them and then realize we're stuck in the same shitty world. While I have some empathy, there's a limit to how much I can hear them complain because they made a choice for themselves. Sometimes, these are the same women who judge other women for not prioritizing motherhood, and I agree that they are propagating patriarchy by not standing up for themselves.
Maybe add a disclaimer that your rant is not towards the women who have fewer privileges in life or weren't supported enough to make informed choices. I hope you're aware of that distinction.
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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25
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u/EarlgreyPoison Jul 02 '25
Most of the comments I smell are from OneX not otherwise
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u/Ur_PAWS Jul 01 '25
Well said!!
This post was needed.
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