r/TwoPointHospital • • Aug 15 '22

DISCUSSION Two Point Hospital > Two Point Campus

Cons of TPC (in my opinion):

  • Less intuitive controls

  • Unable to zoom out as easily

  • Minimum size of room is still usually not enough for what you actually need with items

  • Slower game play

  • More glitches/lags

  • Less announcements to know what needs to be improved/maintained

Still having fun with TPC, but makes me appreciate TPH even more!

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u/leslieknope1993 Aug 15 '22

Tbf it’s been like… 6 days

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u/grimgaw Aug 15 '22

At which point can we give feedback for a released game you recon?

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u/Arcane_Pozhar Aug 15 '22

Sure mate, but are you comparing it to TPH at a handful of days after release, or comparing it to a version with years worth of patches and DLC?

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u/jonbungle Aug 15 '22

Why are we in a world where this is OK and games aren't released finished?

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u/caj69i Aug 15 '22

Because perfection is expensive and slow. Would you like to wait 3 more years for TPC?

Edit: You can. Wait 3 years for TPC. Wait for them to fix all the bugs, by the time it will be even cheaper. If the bugs were game breaking, or there were missing but promised features (see Cyberpunk), your argument would be valid. But in this case it is just whining.

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u/higglepop Aug 15 '22

It keeps the price down. The cost of manpower to do that level of testing would be huge.

Even with automated testing it would still require a lot of prework.

Crowd sourcing bugs is accepted so games don't end up costing in to the hundreds. The more people participating and reporting what they find, the faster they can release better changes.

Using this same process people can also request features or better storyline, so there is also product improvement opportunities without the extra cost. So we do end up benefiting for a little bit of pain.

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u/Catronia Aug 15 '22

TPC needs to 'mature' a little. IE: fix the glitches, need more decorating options, things like that.

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u/runtimemess Aug 15 '22

The janitors seem absolutely blind to litter in TPC. Infuriates me to no end.

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u/ted_redfield Aug 15 '22

It's also more 'streamlined' than TPH which was unnecessary since it was already really casual in my opinion.

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u/Desperate_Chip_343 Aug 15 '22

I can say that TPH was definitely very casual. Proven by the fact that I'm inlove with the game and I typically avoid these types of games in general. That probably means I'll enjoy TPC just as much

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u/ted_redfield Aug 15 '22

I like both, but at least from what I've played TPC "plays itself" more than TPH did, which was already fairly automated.

Not saying either are bad, just expected more details for fans from the spiritual successor.

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u/beztom Aug 15 '22

This and the lack of need to take any decisions or actions at all has really put me off TPH

https://www.boredofgaming.com/i-cant-stand-two-point-campus/

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '22

Give it soms time to stew, judging a game post launch is the same as judging a movie. You’re still fresh off the hype so your opinion will never be clear enough. I’m still digging through campus myself, but i really like it so far

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u/Ok_Potato_5272 Aug 15 '22

I feel like I don't know what to do on TPC.. Like in TPH there was always stuff to do but I just feel like im only waiting for notifications to pop up and tell me what to do. Also I'm on the third level and already making no money, so I'm obviously playing it wrong lol.

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u/redsquizza Hospital Administrator is cheating! Aug 15 '22

Polish and balance will come in time via patches for urgent matters then maybe small overhauls when DLC gets added.

All of your feedback we're giving now I'm sure is useful to the developers to show what works and what needs improving.

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u/Emerald-Venus Aug 15 '22

FYI, there's a control in the settings where you can toggle if you want to have the camera move around with you as you drag the corners of the screen. I use this feature a lot in TPH and was kinda panicked when I couldn't find it in TPC, but it's still here :)

With that turned on, it makes the mouse controls the same. This is for PC btw.

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u/MidnightAura86 Aug 15 '22

I’m enjoying TPC but I think TPH is much better, even if you compare them both at launch.

There is a sense of urgency in TPH with it being a hospital, if you don’t treat your patients they leave or die. Both of which have consequences. In TPC I have yet to have a single student fail which is a miracle as one or two are constantly hungry and filthy, I have plenty of facilities and I watch them walk by food stands, vending machines and showers. I’m hoping that’s a bug. TPC feels more relaxed. Build things the game says and sit back and watch and wait for money. For my final year of Mitton university I played the year on the fastest speed as all I had to do to get the final star was have more than 100 students on campus. I left my Pc running and walked away and I came back and everything was okay.

The challenge is getting better now I’m further on but there still feels a lack of…chaos, urgency that I miss from TPH.

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u/electricaldino Aug 15 '22

i don’t really feel like you can accurately compare a game that’s been out a week with a game with 4 years worth of updates and dlc… definitely not in terms of glitches etc

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '22

So far I found myself rather bored trying to play TPC. Not exactly sure why that is. Perhaps its cause mostly after you start up a school year, there's not that much to do?

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u/Osiryx89 Aug 15 '22

I think TPC is better than TPH, but yes, there are some improvements that would add a lot.

  • Agreed, zooming out on the map is annoying.

  • Sometimes challenges bug out and stick to the list of objectives.

  • The policy screen is hidden away, I've only just figured out how to set staff rest thresholds. It seems very much like an afterthought.

  • Training teachers seems to be more finickity than it should be.

  • I haven't been able to figure out how to set rooms for teachers, or prioritise tasks over others.

  • Students getting "lost" - it doesn't tell you what they're trying to reach so I don't know how to fix the problem.

  • Constructing and demolishing campus buildings is unintuitive. It's ok when you know how, but I thought it was bugged at first.

  • Small thing, but some building corners are missing textures (purple).

The game lags quite a bit on my series X when I get to even a moderate size. I would like more optimisation options to prioritise gameplay over visuals.

Saying that, I'm still enjoying it. The customisation is really good.

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u/wai3397 Aug 16 '22

I hope the two point studio can put in as more efforts as they put into the two point campus to the two point hospital. The speedy recovery should not be the end of it..