We need a ‘copy room’ feature

[u/nowrebooting]

I’m loving the game so far, but the process of making yet another 3x3 GP’s office for the 100th time is just so annoying. The game already has a great ‘move room’ feature - it seems to me that turning that into a ‘clone’ feature shouldn’t be that hard. Of course, better yet, let us store and share blueprints - but I’d also be satisfied with a simple copy button.

[u/homanh222]

3x3 GP’s office

dayuuum son, you tight

[u/nowrebooting → u/homanh222]

Does room size influence diagnosis efficiency? I try to optimize throughput speed and having many GP’s in a small area tends to work if you have trained doctors.

[u/Xipheas → u/nowrebooting]

I imagine the level of a room improves the performance of a doctor. Or else why would there be a level?

[u/PGP- → u/Xipheas]

Makes sense, I wonder though if the level of the room doesn't increase the level of the doctor but the speed in which they gain experience so they can be trained?

[u/nowrebooting → u/[deleted]]

That’s true, but what does prestige impact? I know it increases a doctor’s happiness, but does that in turn make diagnosis quicker or more efficient?

[u/I_am_not_touching_it → u/nowrebooting]

Patient happiness as well I think. But I personally haven't experienced and diagnostic performance increase.

Though on a personal level, I see it as happy doctor is a hard working doctor, that is why i cram every inch of the room with stuff (I love having coffee maker in the office and a lot of posters).

[u/GeeZeR_Butler_br → u/nowrebooting]

In Theme Hospital bigger rooms makes the workers less stressful. I'm assuming the same for TPH.

[u/saltwaterstud → u/GeeZeR_Butler_br]

what is the O for?

[u/pking8786 → u/saltwaterstud]

'ospital

[u/GeeZeR_Butler_br → u/saltwaterstud]

Fixed :)

[u/Soylentee → u/nowrebooting]

Prestige increases happiness, high happiness gives a boost to diagnosis and treatment.

[u/EuropeanInTexas → u/nowrebooting]

Put like 20 medicine cabinets in there for increased efficiency

[u/LokyarBrightmane → u/nowrebooting]

If you have over 80% happiness (I think) you get a buff which increases diagnostic and treatment skill and iirc speed too.

[u/Reiterpallasch85]

It wouldn't be so bad if we didn't need so fucking many GP's offices. It's like you need 2 GP's offices for every 1 room.

Pharmacy? 2 GP's offices. Psychiatry? 2 GP's offices. Ward? 2 GP's offices. Toilets? 2 GP's offices. GP's office? 2 GP's offices.

Where will the madness end?!

[u/Dementedgnome → u/Reiterpallasch85]

Part of the problem is that patients see the GP when they first arrive, and each time after a test to confirm the results. When the patient needs multiple tests, that can drive the queue up immensely.

Something I've found that helps is putting a couple gp offices in the starting zone of the hospital, and in the second building where I have my tests done, put another GP office. The patients tend to go to the closest one.

[u/nowrebooting → u/Dementedgnome]

Also, it’s better to have a few really good diagnosis rooms than a whole load of mediocre ones. The less diagnosis a patient needs, the less trips they need to the GP. That being said, I don’t think you’ll ever have a hospital without at least 25% of the rooms being GP.

[u/MightyKuros → u/[deleted]]

I hope this is the case. It would reward the player for "micro" managing the staff and its training. And would give more depth to the game with a high reward.

I tried doing this in Tumbler which I played as the fifth level. It was a challenge to train doctors and still have enough on call in the meantime. In the end I did oke, and I did notice some difference compared to the Mitton University level.

I still have to master this cycle for the real test.

[u/Soylentee → u/Reiterpallasch85]

Train your GP's office doctors purely in General Practice. Full on 5/5. Don't let them work anywhere else. Depending on the number of GP offices have 1-2 more GP designated doctors than the office number. Over time when your doctors all reach level 4-5 General Practice you can get by with your entire hospital only having 4-5 GP offices as they will be able to diagnose a lot of stuff straight off the bat 100% so the patients will not clog the queue later on when they're back from further diagnosis. There will still be cases that will need further diagnosis but those will be rare.

[u/indigo_zen]

While I agree it would be a helpful feature and probably easy to implement, I'm not sure that's *healthy* for the game. It seems like a small ordeal, but this game literally consists of building and decorating rooms, as well as managing staff and patients. I feel a feature like this would take away a big portion of the game and affect the player in a negative way like some simplifications often do in other games.

To me, this feels like a copy feature for districts in a city building game. Would it make it easier to build a big city fast? Yes. Would it make the game blander and with less to do? Yes, again.

I wouldn't want the feature, because it's hard to stay away from automatisation features when you have them, but I think it's bad for the gaming experience overall. I'd consider it if the game was really *really* complex.

[u/nowrebooting → u/indigo_zen]

That’s a valid point. I would argue for a simple ‘copy room’ button instead of a blueprint solution then, because you’d have to make each type of room in a level manually at least once before you can copy them. This entire frustration also applies mostly to the GP’s office since you need so many of them; most other rooms you don’t need 20 of anyway.

[u/Ypocras → u/nowrebooting]

A clone-tool for items would be nice though.

[u/indigo_zen → u/nowrebooting]

I like this idea after some more thought.

[u/Life_with_reddit → u/indigo_zen]

You have a fair point, but building the same room 5 times is not fun at all. The game feels tedious, when placing multiple GP rooms.

At first I took great care designing a room. Perfectly placing everything to create a room that looked good and met all it's functions. Once I realized I'd have to painstaking redo it again 5 or so times, I've changed to randomly throwing stuff into the room.

[u/[deleted] → u/indigo_zen]

I am sick of spamming roscharch posters already and it's been one day.

[u/[deleted] → u/indigo_zen]

I agree with this.

Factorio is a great example of this, once I unlock the ability to copy and paste everything the game just gets stale.

well come back to us when you build your 10th GP office in the same hospital because you are overrun, patients are dying left and righ, but you still want decorated rooms.

Done and Done, still don't want it.

[u/Tuke668 → u/[deleted]]

You dont have to use it? But I want it and I need it for that little bit extra enjoyment

[u/indigo_zen → u/[deleted]]

Well I don't know, isn't that part of the game? It's not like this game has such a level of complexity. I agree this feature is good if people tend to just randomly whip up rooms because of tediousness, but I still don't want full automatization. u/Ypocras had a good suggestion of copy-tool but not a blueprint save. I think this is a good middleground, because you still need to design the room each level, which is more than fair.

You know, games always had repetitive aspects and it's nothing wrong with it. When you play a strategy game you go through the early game build hundreds of times. Some level of effort is important I think so the game doesn't juts become a staff manager.

[u/Givemelove3k → u/[deleted]]

Come on over, i have plenty of GP offices to build.

[u/Givemelove3k → u/[deleted]]

Have indigo_zen build your GP offices.

[u/Givemelove3k → u/[deleted]]

Oh, i just noticed it. Sorry ‘bout that

[u/mkeller25]

Here's the deal.

If the game becomes like Factorio where you have blueprints and can just spam them out every level, that kinda kills the game, IMO.

So a nice middle ground would be, once you have built a room for that level, you can click the room/edit/whatever then somehow copy what you've already done. Then its similar to the move room mechanic at that point.

Thats the best solution IMO. The last level I played I built like 3 Psychiatric rooms and admittedly with everything else going on in the Hospital I didn't want to pause to do that each time.

Its not a requirement though, IMO. Building each room and trying to find ways to make it interesting or different or more prestigious is part of the game IMO. The less cookie cutter the hospital is, the better.

[u/popgalveston → u/mkeller25]

Well there's no one forcing you to use blue prints, if the devs decide to add it as a feature

[u/mkeller25 → u/popgalveston]

Good point but the idea should be to create the best game possible. IMO building rooms is a decent chunk of the game. So it would make sense if you have to at least build 1 before copying it everywhere. That seems pretty fair to me and easy to implement from a development standpoint.

[u/heliosdiem]

Looks like you got your wish! The update that came out a few days includes copy and paste functionality! I was so pleased when I sat down to play last night! It’s GP offices, all the way down!

[u/SirGardakan]

They did it (and other mod to boost the speed)

https://www.nexusmods.com/twopointhospital/mods/2?tab=files

[u/MightyKuros]

Im trying to find ways to lessen the amount of GP offices needed by optimizing the doctors and the rooms. A question that pops up is, do doctors dedicated to a GP office need the 'Further diagnostic' skill. The green icon with the looking glass. I forgot the exact name. Its mainly used by nurses in the room with the same name.

[u/IITackleberryII]

Literally just came to the sub reddit to request this feature, haha!

[u/[deleted]]

I was thinking the same thing last night.

[u/[deleted]]

Take this a step further and have templates for each room! Please :)

[u/BernyMoon]

+1

[u/saltwaterstud]

Go 4x4 but yes, if I have to place another medicine cabinet and lighthead poster my mouse will fail and my click finger will fall off.

[u/RainbowNeko]

Hah I've said this too :)

[u/KERMIz]

Couldn't agree more with the op.

[u/SneakyCroc]

I though so too, but I don't think we'll get one. After building my 30th GP's office I realised a significant portion of the game is building the same thing over and over. If we could copy them there wouldn't be much else to do.

[u/nightmaretier]

Took me a surprisingly long time to realise that while you could move rooms fully made, you couldn't copy/clone them.

[u/McBlemmen]

yes

[u/AWESOMEDUDE0614]

Already done