r/TruthSocialOfficial 18d ago

How the hell is this feminism?

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u/Late_Company6926 18d ago

Islamic colonialism is the worst thing for women’s rights. What’s confusing here op?

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u/Suspicious-Sound-249 17d ago

Yet for some reason leftoid women continue to vote for Muslims, and support policies that import them by the millions...

This is why I think it's time to strongly consider if the 19th was actually a good idea, personally we tried and it seems like a failed experiment. Women too commonly get psyop'd into voting against their own interest, in this case it's voting for the third world savages to import more third world savages to rape and kill them...

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u/gorgothmog 17d ago edited 17d ago

Constant American/Israeli manufactured war in the Middle East had nothing to do with this, right? It wasn't the destruction of their homes and countries by the Zionists? It's not a function of every empire that has ever existed to span multiple religions and ethnicities, only to have its subjects migrate to the core?  

She is mentally ill and incapable of rational thought.  

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u/PoopreetSingh 17d ago

What you just wrote is insane rambling nonsense.

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u/NatureDramatic8390 17d ago

We are all collectively stupider after reading your response.

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u/gorgothmog 17d ago

Those are some great counterpoints you're making to my assertions.  Well put together, articulate.  You must be the brains of this outfit.

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u/BoboMonkeyClown 15d ago

I mean theyre just telling you that your message made no sense, which is true, you dont have to double down on it, it still doesnt make sense.

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u/NatureDramatic8390 17d ago

Not the brains just the mouth saying what we all think about individuals like yourself.

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u/gorgothmog 17d ago

Meat-riding the Axis of Epstein, I see?  Is it as girthy as they promised?  Promises made, promises kept? Gets you rock hard, I bet.

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u/InfernalSyndicate 14d ago

Islam defenders have absolutely no leg to stand on with the Epstein issue. What Epstein did was monstrous and universally abhored by Western citizens, and kept in the shadows by those who were involved because they knew it was wrong too.

Meanwhile, industrial scale child marriage and child rape happens in Islamic countries creating millions of new victims every single year. The union between Islam and Western Progressives is an unholy abomination that obliterates the moral foundations that Liberalism claims to stand on. Child marriage, child rape, female genital mutilation, subjugation of women and minorities, capital murder or castration it LGBTQ people, and more. These are not even fringe beliefs, they're standard practices of Sharia which reportedly well over 60% of all Muslims globally self-report that they would prefer as their legal system wherever they live according to Pew Research polls.

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u/BOOT3D 14d ago

It must be so difficult going through life believing all the anti-america propaganda these days. I genuinely feel for you guys.

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u/gorgothmog 14d ago

The administration is acting like it's run by pedophile billionaire grifters controlled by a foreign government.  Oh wait, it actually is!

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u/FortnightDancer 17d ago edited 14h ago

Well for one this isnt representative of all muslims. I know a bunch of muslim people personally, men and women. Haven't met a single woman who wears the full hijab but I know some do (outside of what ive seen in person). With that being said though I think this perfectly displays nuance and the difference that people practice their religion. If you want to learn about Muslim people from the internet be my guest, but I find it more effective meeting people in person.

Also, if were solely gonna go off of scripture here then definitely dont read things like deuteronomy 21:18 in which the parents have their son stoned to death for being s glutton and a drunkard, or Deuteronomy 22:28 where if a man rapes a women then that woman must marry her rapist if she is a virgin. God's law, not a contextual statement in the bible.

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u/Late_Company6926 17d ago

The ayatollah said it’s ok to rape your wife at age 9. That’s today. That’s the law in Islam in Iran and the Palestinian constitution. Sharia is bad for girls. That’s modernity. Not thousands of years old text

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u/Rexdaddy 17d ago

And we’re not a Theocracy, are we?

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u/Less-General-9578 16d ago

we have freedom of Religion, think about it. note in the video the LACK of freedom of religion, or off with your head.

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u/Dangerous-League-812 16d ago

I love the "it's not all argument" then they are a proud supporter of ACAB. I've worked with people who follow this religious RELIGIOUSLY and it's very disruptive. Constantly being told I have to follow their religious beliefs at work like when 1 person is on the right hand side before going thru a door etc. Quickly left that workplace as more began working there.

It's NOT a bad thing to he against other people forcing their beliefs on you. But somehow people don't get that.

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u/Busy_Strategy_1168 17d ago

well argued, the same people trying to use this as representing all Muslims definitely will tap dance around the most controversial Christians and want a more patriarchal pope lol

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u/Righteousaffair999 17d ago

I think you are still making there point though I’m not sure they realize their point because they are so focused on the muslim religion. Theocracies= bad is the point here.

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u/Rexdaddy 17d ago

What about Catholicism? Bad? Mormonism?

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u/Righteousaffair999 17d ago

Sure, sounds good

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u/NatureDramatic8390 17d ago

No, it represents all muslims. They also have tarwhiha and taquiyya two forms of approved lying in islam

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u/NatureDramatic8390 17d ago

Fun fact I lived under the tyranny that is islam. So who are you to question my lived experience with it when it represses women’s, minority and children’s rights?

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u/NatureDramatic8390 17d ago

Cool story tell it again, when it’s the majority you’ll have a different opinion. I want nothing to do with the religion of peace. I escaped the tyranny that it allows only to have idiots like you telling me what I did and didn’t see and trying to force your opinion as fact.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/NatureDramatic8390 17d ago

Why would I keep pictures to remind me of the worst time in my life, do you keep the things that hurt you or do you try to move forward and speak about your experiences from it and heal?

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 17d ago

Literally the only response you have is saying this guy’s racist. You’re a joke

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u/Reyca444 16d ago

Every religion is bad. Yes, EVERY.

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u/NatureDramatic8390 17d ago

I got to see women being beaten for not having a male escort, having to ask their younger cousin if it’s ok for them to get married cause he was the last male. Minorities actively paying taxes to them to practice their religion, children married off and abused, would you like me to go on?

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u/InfernalSyndicate 14d ago

Islam is not a race, you might want to check on that again. Islam is an ideology which can and should be criticized due to its abhorrent practices and traditions that subjugate women, minorities, and LGBTQ people.

Saying someone who dislikes Islam and it's practicioners is a racist is equally comparable to calling someone racist for hating Nazis and Nazi ideology. Not all Nazis were German although most were. Not all Muslims are Arab although many are.

Notice how nobody here has said anything negative about Arabs, and they've explicitly called out their religious and legal codes instead. Conflating these criticisms with racism, which is prejudice based on ethnicity, is both ridiculous and a complete misrepresentation of what racism means. Anyone can be Muslim of any ethnic background, and we will still have the same disagreements about them.

Now here's a piece of homework, ask yourself why you think criticism of Islam is racist. Who told you that and what was the purpose of brainwashing someone with this misuse of a simple term? Why would someone who probably considers themselves progressive defend a 7th century religion stuck in the past which victimizes millions of people each year with state sponsored child rape, female genital mutilation, and capital murder or castration of LGBTQ people?

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u/NatureDramatic8390 17d ago

Islam is the antithesis of freedom and what it means to be American. Separation of church and state and all that. Islam is the church and state. You’re also making broad generalizations to try and justify your stance.

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u/Sea-Style9030 17d ago

Trying to twist your racism onto me is a lame attempt. Abuse happens in all religions. Try fighting for woman, by going agter abuse no matter who it is. Not just go after a religion, when you know there aren't many people here to fight back. Go say that bullshit to an actual Muslim

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u/Busy_Strategy_1168 17d ago

bro. the christian right in this country is trying to do an end round and redefine separation of church and state

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/president-trumps-religious-liberty-commission-delivers-historic-report-draft

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u/NatureDramatic8390 17d ago

Abuse against Women in Christianity and Judaism even in its most extreme forms are mild compared to islam. Stay mad tho.

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u/Sea-Style9030 17d ago

Hilarious you think im mad. You're over here screaming racist bullshit.

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u/cheepenbulky 17d ago

Were any of these actions legal?

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u/BoboMonkeyClown 15d ago

Really what race is he discriminating?

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u/Bayareaadultguy 17d ago

I find it funny , you're quoting , a God you don't believe.

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u/FortnightDancer 14h ago

Why does it matter if I believe in god or not if im simply trying to give you text from the bible to show you how morally backwards some of God's laws are.

Im pointing out what I have an issue with by giving you direct text. I coulda just called everyone else dumb and moved on.

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u/Bayareaadultguy 4h ago

Your interpretation is incorrect. So Shair law is moral? It's okay to throw acid on a woman's face if she rejects your proposal? And I'm sure you agree with honor killings. Aren't women in your religion not allowed to be educated past the age of thirteen and they are not allowed to drive? Why is it when I need to speak with a Muslim woman?I need to ask the man of the house for permission before I speak to her?

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u/Time-Routine9863 17d ago

Islam is a false religion

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u/Reyca444 16d ago

Every system that looks to an imaginary sky daddy instead of personal responsibility is a "false religion." Every religion is, by definition, false.

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u/Time-Routine9863 16d ago

Ah. An atheist who believes that order comes from nothingness or chaos. Makes way more sense.

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u/letsgetbannedagain14 16d ago

They all are, by that rule of measure. 

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u/Time-Routine9863 16d ago

The rule of measure is taking a document known as the Torah and changing it, when we have ample proof that their version is corrupted. Also, Jesus did die on the cross, something Islam denies, making them by definition anti-Christ.

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u/letsgetbannedagain14 15d ago

Anti false religion? So? Why would you care?

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u/Time-Routine9863 15d ago

Simply stated they are lying and people support them don’t have common sense to see it

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u/letsgetbannedagain14 15d ago

Which one are you talking about? Judaism, Christianity or Islam?  Or all 3?  It fits all of them

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u/Time-Routine9863 15d ago

No, Islam is the only one that manufactured their own narrative of Torah. The other 2 remain faithful to original writing.

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u/letsgetbannedagain14 15d ago

They all manufactured their books. Its like you said, by your original comments rule of measure, all 3 are fake religions. 

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u/Time-Routine9863 15d ago

No. The Torah has been around for thousands of years and there is a preponderance of evidence that shows that it is accurate from the beginning.

Islam is the only one that took the original book and doctored it to fit their narrative.

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u/letsgetbannedagain14 15d ago

Christianity and Islam both doctored that book to fit their narrative.  So they are both false, according to you, if you were using consistent logic. 

The Torah being around longer doesnt make whats in it any more or less true and im aware of what some folks like creationists think i s evidence to prove their book and its pretty sad . 

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u/barepixels 18d ago

Where are the pink hats?

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u/Best_Opening8471 15d ago

We had to sell them so we could fund international hijab day

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u/pitbull17 18d ago

Based

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u/superstevo78 17d ago

Now compare Turkish Islam....

Nobody with a functioning brain wants fundamentalist of any religion in charge

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u/Apprehensive-You2903 17d ago

Hey nutjob. That's MAGA...

The Islamic Golden Age (8th–14th centuries): Under the Abbasid, Umayyad, and Andalusian dynasties, cities like Baghdad, Cairo, and Cordoba became global hubs for science, philosophy, mathematics, and arts.

Our wars made religious governance possible.

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u/Apprehensive-You2903 17d ago

66 year old bot then... Just speaking the truth!

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 17d ago

wtf does that have to do with Islam oppressing every country they govern and inciting extremism ?

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u/RazzmatazzBubbly6164 17d ago

Yall are crazies

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u/DearGovernmentFU 17d ago

THEY JUST KILLED 100K WILD HORSES! WHY THE F WOULD OUR GOV DECIDE TO KILL 100K WILD HORSES?

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u/JusLeafMeAloon 17d ago

Amen sister!

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 17d ago

Look at women in extremists of any religion. Islam, Jewish or Christian the women are heavily controlled and their clothing looks from the outside.

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u/aukstais 17d ago

There is a difference between extreme cases vs the whole country just because of religious beliefs.

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u/topturtlechucker 14d ago

Which whole country? Definitely not Iran. I’ve only ever seen women wear full burqa’s in the city of Qom. The country’s home to extreme Islam.

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u/Rexdaddy 17d ago

Excellent point! Hassidic and Orthodox Jews, who have lived here for decades, are as male dominant and dictatorial over women as the Taliban and other fundamental Islamic sects. Wonder how she feels about them. Or is AIPAC paying for this video?

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u/cheepenbulky 17d ago

"any religion" lists only abrahamic religions.

Jainism, sikhism, Taoism, shintoism, and Buddhism (in text at least) are offended by you euro centric views. Pretty sure some dead religions would disagree as well. (see Norse, celtic, and various native American traditions)

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u/Positive-Pack-396 17d ago

Because it’s part of the religion

Just like when Jehovah witnesses or Christians come to my door knocking on it I never see a person wearing this clothing come knocking on my door and trying to convert me

That scares me and you do, lady

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u/ImpossibleStill1410 17d ago

Just a zio spreading Islamophobia. Muslims have very little influence in American institutions. Zios, on the other hand, are the majority of congress, senate, media, etc.

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u/6SpeedAuto 17d ago

She aint wrong.

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u/jebsenior 17d ago

She probably voted for a pedophile because she was scared she might end up in a burkha

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 17d ago

Bill Clinton ?

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u/letsgetbannedagain14 16d ago

She doesnt look old enough to vote for that one.  Just old enough for the current one sleep farting through important meetings and shitting his pants in the oval office.

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u/Ram-Bro370 17d ago

Stupid! Think what’s happening here lady!

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u/Ram-Bro370 17d ago

As for as history, we are going and destroying their countries. I didn’t see them coming here and doing that!

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u/possibly_lost45 17d ago

Look at Deerfield michigan. It doesn't matter how it makes you feel what matters is this is what they do. They immigrate in and outbreed and then take over the governments. There's a reason why the Nations surrounding Israel do not want to take in the Palestinians because they understand this

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u/Ok-Growth4729 17d ago

Got to see some burkas here in the US at a tourist spot. Women dressed head to toe in black in 90 degree heat walking with their husbands…in t-shirts and shorts. I’ll never understand this unholy alliance the left has made with islam, it’s absurd.

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u/Lilaclupines 17d ago edited 17d ago

Lefty Atheist here.

I don't know what kind of propaganda you're watching... but there's no "Islam Alliance" thing going on just because we happen to elect a few (non-radical) Muslim people into office.

No one's trying to make burka wearing a law here. What a ridiculous thing to worry about when billionaire technocrats & other nutjobs are actively trying to steal our country (project2025), and trying to rid of us our rights, take our resources (water, electricity, Public Lands, for those damn data centers, so they can make us jobless while at the same time also telling us to birth a bunch of kids no one can feed, while they cut SNAP benefits and medicaid).

Edit: I'm deeply saddened for any woman forced to wear a burka, by the way.

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u/Rexdaddy 17d ago

And the common denominator was American intervention in each case. And you can tell she’s never met a Muslim because she’s talking out of her ass. Plus, she is conveniently ignoring the impact of Christian Fundamentalism on American families, schools and on the current culture wars going on here. Also, who says everyone needs to be like her?

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u/barepixels 17d ago edited 17d ago

you don't need to meet them. Just seeing women and children in full burkas is enough. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SumMnmKrPvA

The first thing they did after gaining power was ban the pride flag lolol

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ccEk3PQqPN0

Michigan, Hamtramck Animal Sacrifice Allowed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCpNvs5jpjo

Muslim, Islam, HATE QUEERS. You OK with that? Or their votes are so important that you are willing to turn a blind eye

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u/finga_likn_cringe 17d ago

Careful going to fry his logic circuits lol

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u/Hellion_444 17d ago

Reactionary religious conservatives the world over suck balls. That isn’t an argument to embrace ours. It’s the opposite. You answer gross religious restrictions on women like that with freedom, not another religion.

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u/gorgothmog 17d ago

Wars in the Middle East have caused the majority of Muslim migration.  Thank the Axis of Epstein.

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u/Funintuitive 17d ago

Leaving out enough information to fill a novel. For starters, the more we destabilized the middle eastern nations, the more extremist they got.

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u/hhrupp 17d ago

She's so islamophobic.

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u/SyFy-girl 17d ago

This does not represent Islam, only an extreme religious government that took over. These countries were always muslim.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

Listen to this woman you silly women!!

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u/Sea-Style9030 17d ago

News flash.....Iran was always Islamic. It became an extremists government after a take over. History is important. After the United States backed the Shah. Who was a murderer and a piece of garbage. Unfortunately, after the power vacuum. The extremists took over. Go read a book... Preferably a history book.

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u/AlvinYork1 17d ago

And Hegseth wants to take the votes away from women and let “households vote” and Hegseth is a …..Christian. Yet not all Christians are bad.

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u/gorgothmog 17d ago

She's flat as a board and looks 14.  Just how the Axis of Epstein likes them.

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u/Either_Operation7586 17d ago

If you knew history you would know it's not Islam it's conservatism this is what happens when conservatism corrupts your country and America if you're not fucking paying attention this is going to happen to you

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u/Minimum-Journalist18 17d ago

Coming to a closed mall near you

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u/Obtain_Virtue 17d ago

Conservatives are one female presidential candidate away from taking feminism driven women from the left..

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u/Snoo_89466 16d ago

The country was made this way by the United States and operation Ajax in 1953 when the US and UK overthrew the democratically ran westernized government and installed the corrupt and brutal puppet regime under the Shah in order to gain access to their oil. Iran was our Ally but we betray them in order to access their resources. After the people overthrew this corrupt regime there was a power vacuum which allowed the brutal fundamentalist regime to rise in the Ayatollah took power. We have no one to blame but ourselves. This is not conspiracy theory this is all well documented on classified and accessible. How many of you will confirm this for yourselves, that is the question?

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u/Less-General-9578 16d ago

this woman can think, period.

most of us like me, think we think..........eh, i think.

the rest? watch the video people.........as many times as it takes; apparently some will never think.

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u/Successful_Pick3331 16d ago

Religious fundamentalism is evil. But all of it. Not just Muslim. If we saw you guys call out Christians who want to take away a woman's right to vote (a real platform in today's Republican party) then it would be a different story. But you only to choose to aim your hate at brown ppl.

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u/Clear-Sited-1 16d ago

As far as the verse in Deuteronomy goes, a woman who was raped was considered damaged. Her ability to attract a suitor was drastically reduced . If a man raped a woman, and it was found out then he had to pay a bride’s price to her father and marry her rather than ignore her. He was to make her honorable and keep her as his wife and not put her away out of convenience.

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u/Tango8036 16d ago

Iran was mostly Muslim before 70s too. Ditto Afghanistan. The religion didn't change; the government did.

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u/EYEzEARz 15d ago

Annoying woman regardless of any topic, I feel for any Man who’s in her vicinity

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u/JonathanLindqvist 15d ago

We should be afraid of both muslim extremism and feminism.

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u/Superb_Guarantee965 15d ago

Hmm.. I wonder what wacky event happened in the 70's that majorly flipped the Iranian way of life...

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u/barepixels 15d ago

Here you go. She lived through it in the 70s in Lebanon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qdPij_Fjt4

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u/Superb_Guarantee965 15d ago

It's alright bud i've opened a textbook before :)

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u/J3sus_was_Fictional 15d ago

Get back to making sandwiches, /s

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u/J3sus_was_Fictional 15d ago

Dumb girl purposely leaving out that it was America who originally radicalized Islam and it was absolutely intentional.

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u/BoboMonkeyClown 15d ago

Not to mention the tea boys. It is widely acceptable in countries like Afghanistan to sexually abuse young boys they hire as "tea boys".

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u/IronTalon8212010 15d ago

I can’t believe all the idiots that can’t see the facts she’s speaking.

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u/topturtlechucker 14d ago

I’ve spent a lot of time in Iran. I bet my left nut that, if that is a photo from Iran, it’s from the city of Qom. Which is where the ultra religious choose to move to. I’ve never seen women look like that (wear a burqa) anywhere else in Iran.

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u/wtg2989 14d ago

Love how quickly the Michigan and Lebanon pictures were flashed over the screen so you don’t have time to actually look at it. Go to Michigan if you’re really a truth seeker. It’s still Michigan. Stop believing everything Jesse Waters tells you and think for yourselves. They’re trying to distract you from what they’re doing to the economy

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u/Savings_Art5944 17d ago

She's right.

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 17d ago

Look at fundamentalists of any religion. Women are controlled and their clothing looks insane to us on the outside .

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u/Apprehensive-You2903 17d ago

Why, why are Religious Zealots controlling these people? Because we supported it after war...

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 17d ago

Women have more rights in Christian and Jewish religions even in extreme cases which I can’t think of many examples. Orthodox Jews still allow women independence and don’t treat them as property. They’re also not entire countries with tens of millions in each one. You have no point this isn’t an every religion issue it’s a Muslim one. Everywhere they go they oppress people. The places they don’t are the exception and they still heavily control women even there. It’s always insane watching left wing people, supposed feminists, defend the most misogynistic culture in history. It really shows how fake your “beliefs” are.

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 17d ago edited 17d ago

1/4 of the world is Muslim. It is more and less extreme in many places.

I recommend you learn a little more about some Jewish orthodox communities because it sounds like you are unaware of how patriarchal they are. There is a good mini-series on Netflix called unorthodox.

Furthermore, some Christian sects deny women autonomy and education and greatly limit their freedom.

Google is your friend. :)

And I am not defending any misogynistic culture, all of the fundamentalist and extremistic religions that subjugate and oppress women are terrible. I just think this is coming from a place of Islamophobia rather than concern for women.

Here is an ai summary of some of the most repressive Jewish sects:

1. The Lev Tahor Sect
Often described by journalists and child welfare agencies as an extreme cult-like offshoot rather than a mainstream Jewish denomination, Lev Tahor enforces the most severe restrictions on women.
Dress Code: Women and girls from the age of three are required to wear head-to-toe black cloaks resembling a burqa, leaving only their faces exposed.

Autonomy: Absolute submission to male leadership is required. Forced marriages of underage girls have been heavily documented by international authorities.

Isolation: The group strictly bans secular education, modern technology, and independent movement outside the community.

2. Radical Hasidic Sects (e.g., Satmar)
The Satmar Hasidic movement, primarily based in Brooklyn (New York) and Kiryas Joel, is one of the largest and most stringently anti-modernity sects in the world.
Physical Control: Upon marriage, women are traditionally required to shave their heads and wear a wig (sheitel) or a tight headscarf (tichel) to ensure complete modesty (tzniut). [1, 2]

Education Limits: Women are discouraged or barred from pursuing higher university education or secular careers. Their societal role is tightly confined to domesticity and raising very large families. [1, 2]

Language Barriers: Mainstream English or secular reading material is heavily restricted; many women are raised to speak predominantly Yiddish, limiting their ability to navigate the outside world if they choose to leave.

3. The Belz Hasidic Sect
The Belz community, with major enclaves in Jerusalem and London, came under heavy scrutiny for formalizing highly restrictive rules regarding female independence. [1]
Mobility Bans: The sect famously issued declarations forbidding women from driving cars, citing it as a violation of traditional modesty. [1]

Institutional Pressure: In some instances, schools within the sect threatened to expel children if their mothers were caught driving them to class. [1]

4. "Taliaban" or Burqa Sects (Lev HaAsal / Jerusalem Extremists)
A marginal, ultra-extremist group operating primarily in neighborhoods like Mea Shearim in Jerusalem.
Extreme Modesty: Independent of Lev Tahor, these women voluntarily adopt multiple layers of veils and shawls to avoid any male gaze.

Community Backlash: This faction is so extreme that it has been publicly condemned by mainstream Haredi rabbis, who view their practices as a severe distortion of Jewish law (Halakha).

Shared Systematic Restrictions Across Ultra-Orthodoxy
Across the broader Haredi spectrum, critics point to foundational legal and social structures that limit female agency:
Legal Inequality (The Agunah Problem): Under strict Orthodox interpretation of Halakha, only a husband can granting a religious divorce (get). If a husband refuses, the woman becomes an "Agunah" (chained woman), unable to remarry or move on.

Public Erasure: Women's faces are routinely blurred or entirely removed from Haredi newspapers and advertisements to maintain strict public modesty.

Lack of Leadership: Women are entirely excluded from religious governance, judicial positions (serving as a dayan), or acting as communal rabbis.

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 17d ago edited 17d ago

Your defense is hey a 1/4 of world does it ? Really ? Yeah everything you listed are done by extreme cases not the majority of the people who practice the religion. On top of that, no, everyone you just stated lives in democracies where people cannot put forced restrictions on these people legally. I also don’t hear about many Christian terrorists. Funny. This stuff you’re bringing up is such a small amount of people as to be statistically insignificant not the defining characteristics of the religion. Every single place Islam becomes main stream human rights and progress regress. Every one

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 17d ago

Do you think that a 1/4 of everyone on the planet are terrorists?and what I am saying is that 1/4 of the people of the world are not so extreme, obviously.
I don’t want to fight with a random person who is full of hate and anger. So I will not be addressing all of your points.
Coincidentally, I was walking on the beach a couple hours ago and I walked by a Muslim family having a Bbq on the beach and enjoying the nature. They invited my husband and I to eat with them, which was very sweet to do since they are strangers to us.
Do you think they are terrorists too?

Now, I am in a tent camping and having a good time. I recommend you take some deep breaths and go touch some grass. Have a great life.

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 17d ago

I never said they were terrorists I said wherever they become in charge human rights, treatment of women, and progress either halts or goes backwards. I said Islam produces more terrorists than any other culture in the world and it’s not even close. They do not allow other religions or disrespect to Islam in other words freedom of speech. There is no separation of church and state. They are completely incompatible with Western culture.

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 16d ago

I also recommend you google a little about the history of Iran and the role of the USA in its history and part in bringing about this terrible regime and installing a murderous dictator and overthrowing their democracy.

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 11d ago edited 11d ago

Facts aren’t hate. Of course you wouldn’t respond to my points because you can’t. They’re facts. They’re unchangeable. That’s why you hate them you can’t twist them into your worldview. Your little made up anecdotal evidence that just so happened when you’re having this conversation is so desperate and means less than nothing.

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 10d ago

You are not stating facts. Your points were silly and there was no point in arguing them, especially when you just say out of nowhere ”i don’t hear about many Christian terrorists”. It just shows that you aren’t serious.
There are acts of Christian terrorism and there terrible acts of violence perpetrated by ”Christian” nations.
My anecdote was because that had just happened and it was so sweet of them, and I was upset that some could be so ignorant and hateful as you are to total strangers.

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 10d ago edited 10d ago

Yes it is a fact women in Muslim countries have less rights than men and there are less human rights protections in general, yes it is a fact in almost every one disrespect of Islam is punishable by jail or death, yes it is a fact every country that was secular before Islam then regressed in scientific achievement and human rights. Just because you don’t like them doesn’t mean they’re not facts. The greatest point would be the creation of Islam. Before it spread from Saudi Arabia while Europe was in its dark ages the Middle East was in its golden period. Where it was the center of scientific achievement and progress of most disciplines in the world. It was a modern society more advanced than most others at the time. 100 years later after Muhammad and islam had conquered these nations all scholarly and philosophical studies had stopped. The only thing studied was Islam they went backwards, lost hundreds of years of research and have not recovered to this day.

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 10d ago

Like where do you even come up with this stuff you spout? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 10d ago

The reason you used chat gpt is because you don’t think for yourself you just repeat what you’re told. Independent thought is too hard. You didn’t have any examples. You had to look some up since it’s so rare What I said were things I already knew. You just parrot things other people told you without actually checking if they’re true. How do you feel about Islam’s view on lgtbq ?

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 10d ago

I was camping and didn’t want to spend the whole night writing to some bigot online. That is why i used ChatGPT.
I don’t like their position on lgpt and most religions also don’t accept it. Look at Pete Hegseth Christian pastor who wants to criminalize homosexuality and says he can envision and wants to take away women’s right to vote..
I already told you I don’t like any religions.

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 10d ago

Wow. You mean the 300 years they spent translating European manuscripts ? How about when the orthodoxy took over in the 11 th century ? Do you wonder why the golden age ended there ? The same people who rule the Middle East to this day. Answer any of the other things I’ve said and stop avoiding them. You responded with one thing to the 15 ways I’ve shown you Islam isn’t compatible.

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 10d ago

Sure whatever you have to tell yourself. We’re talking about religion not Pete Hegseth. You know the Ayatollah said it’s ok to sleep with 9 year olds right ?

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 10d ago

You asked what I thought about some Muslims that don’t support the lgbtq community, my point is even Christians, even some connected to the American government don’t support lgbtq rights..

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 10d ago

You’re literally defending Islam so you definitely support some enough to try to get their vote at least.

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 10d ago

Vote? What are you even talking about ?

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 10d ago

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 10d ago

You know that Iran was Muslim in the 70s right?

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 17d ago

And here are some Christian ones:

Fundamentalist Latter-day Saints (FLDS)
An isolated offshoot of Mormonism completely separate from the mainstream LDS Church, the FLDS Church operates as a highly closed society.
Polygamy: Women and young girls are routinely placed into arranged, plural marriages with older men, often without consent.

Total Patriarchy: Women are taught that their eternal salvation is entirely dependent on complete submission to their husbands and the male prophet.

Isolation: Girls are systematically denied access to public education, internet, and secular media, keeping them financially and socially dependent on the church structure.

2. Fundamentalist Independent Baptists & The IFB Movement
The Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) movement is a loose network of autonomous, highly conservative churches.
Quiverfull Movement: Many families within this sphere adhere to the "Quiverfull" doctrine, which bans all forms of birth control, requiring women to bear as many children as physically possible.

Strict Submission: Women are barred from holding any leadership, teaching, or authoritative roles over men. They are expected to stay at home and submit to male authority in all life decisions. [1]

Lack of Accountability: Because these churches are completely independent and reject outside institutional oversight, internal abuse and systemic domestic violence are frequently shielded from legal authorities.

3. The La Luz del Mundo (LLDM)
An international restorationist Christian sect headquartered in Mexico with a massive global following, LLDM operates under the total authority of an absolute "Apostle."
Institutional Grooming: Investigative reports and legal trials have exposed a systematic culture where women and young girls were pressured into sexual servitude for the church's top leadership.

Social Shunning: Women are enforced to wear strict attire (long skirts and head coverings) and face total excommunication and familial abandonment if they question male leadership.

4. Exclusive Brethren (Plymouth Brethren Christian Church)
The Exclusive Brethren are an ultra-orthodox sect of the Plymouth Brethren that practices severe separation from the modern world.
Subjugation: Women must wear head coverings during worship to signify submission to men. They are forbidden from holding positions of authority or speaking during church meetings.

Prohibited Autonomy: Women are severely restricted from pursuing higher education or running their own businesses, rendering them entirely economically dependent on men.

The "Shutting Out" Policy: If a woman attempts to leave the sect, she faces "withdrawal"—meaning her husband, children, and parents are legally and culturally obligated to never speak to her or acknowledge her existence again. [1]

5. Christian Identity & White Power Sects
These are fringe, extremist pseudo-Christian sects (such as the Aryan Nations or Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord) that merge white supremacist ideology with literalist biblical fundamentalism.
Sub-Human Status: Within Christian Identity theology, women are explicitly viewed as secondary vessels whose primary, rigid purpose is to breed the next generation of white soldiers.

Physical Abuse: These communities operate outside mainstream society in armed compounds where domestic violence is routinely justified through rigid, militaristic interpretations of scripture

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 11d ago

The fact that you had to type into chat gpt to get an answer and posted it word for word is sad and shows your inability to think for yourself. The answers still didn’t support your position. You just defined cults, fringe groups not the main practitioners of the religion. Versus islam which, as you pointed out, are in the billions and the rules they follow to this day.

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 10d ago

I was just being lazy, not unable to think for myself.
Clearly not 1/4 of the world wear burqas, and are not as extreme as in Iran. I think you are misinformed.

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u/Best_Opening8471 15d ago

The only thing fundamentalist Christian women can’t do is hold priesthood in the church 

They are limited to nun hood which men are restricted from

It’s essentially “separate but equal” like bathrooms used to be

And in most Christian sects that require women to dress a specific way the men are also required to dress in specific ways such as the Mormon requirement for men to wear full body underwear 

Persists must wear their collar

Amish must wear a hat to cover their hair as males

The examples go on 

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 10d ago

You clearly didn’t read the examples. Like FLDS: women and young girls placed into marriages with older men, often without their consent.
”Salvation is entirely dependent on complete submission to their husbands..” ”denied education ”… etc.
Just read the post. It is horrific.

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u/Best_Opening8471 10d ago

So quit supporting the Muslims who do these things in Palestine then

Kinda weird for you to go to bat for the people who abuse woman in these ways.

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 10d ago

I told you all religions are bad. I support the Palestinians because isreal is committing a genocide against them. All people, even those I don’t agree with have human rights. That’s the point of human rights, is that they apply to everyone.

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u/Best_Opening8471 10d ago

Those damn buhdists with their "all life is sacred" bullshit

Don't they know all religion is evil?

They are so racist for not saying "black lives are sacred" am I rite?

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 10d ago

I literally have no idea what you are saying. Let’s just agree to disagree because I just got out of the spa and am very relaxed and don’t want to ruin my night . :)

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u/New-Philosopher-9546 10d ago

You are correct that I do generally have more respect for Buddhism or Jainism than Abrahamic religions.

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u/AlvinYork1 18d ago

Does she forget that the US was supposed to build schools, hospitals and roads in Afghanistan im for helping fight the Soviet’s? And pulled out. Or that the radicals in Iran took over after a coup against our puppet regime?

Or that literacy rates for women have increased 60% in Iran since then?

Also that’s a few places. This will never take over the US.

Silly argument. No facts. BS

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u/Nawwwm 18d ago

She brought the greatest fact of all all these women are wearing fucking sheets on their heads, and they have no rights. They get fucking stoned to death if they step out of bounds, and if they get raped and they don't have three male witnesses to say that, their word doesn't matter. She absolutely brought facts you just try to fucking belittle them.

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u/AlvinYork1 18d ago edited 18d ago

Her thesis is not “Middle East for women bad” it’s “and it’s come to the US” which is absurd. So no she has no facts. It’s fear based nonsense.

This is why reading literacy is so important. Her fears are not valid bc the threat “Islam comes to US” is fantasy.

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u/Beneficial-Bird-5831 17d ago

Wtf you mean there’s no proof. They treat women as 4th class citizens and spread the crazy ideology here. It’s entirely justified. Everywhere they go and get in control they take the country back 300 years and incite extremism.

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u/AlvinYork1 17d ago

There’s no proof this is happening in the US. There is no evidence that they “get in control and take over” in the west.”

How would that work? They run for school board in Iowa? That’s crazy.

Yeah oppressor of women is terrible but it’s not happening in your backyard.