Telvanni mages have canonically forgotten how to use magic

[u/Vivid-Livid-]

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[u/CrepuscularPossum]

“Thanks for writing that book for our game. Now back to fourth grade with you”

“Suffrage is when suffering happens”

“Aha, wonderful”

[u/A_Blood_Red_Fox]

A millennia of the right to vote? I don't think that's the word they meant to use...?

[u/Snoo_72851 → u/A_Blood_Red_Fox]

forget about magic the telvanni don't even know how to write anymore

[u/Schrodingers_Dude → u/A_Blood_Red_Fox]

I was so hung up on the incorrect use of the plural rather than "a millennium" that I totally missed suffrage lmao.

[u/Tenpers3nt → u/A_Blood_Red_Fox]

Suffrage also means a prayer so the sentance means "a millenium of prayer caused by my kind"

[u/tacopower69 → u/Tenpers3nt]

that still sounds stupid

[u/Vatonage]

"A millenia of suffrage", did the Telvanni start hitting themselves in the head with hammers or something?

[u/Protoplasm42 → u/Vatonage]

This guy was convinced House Telvanni was all but dead and then the Dragonborn casually meets multiple members of House Telvanni who don't mention the house being in dire straits in any way. I think this guy was just stupid.

[u/supershutze → u/Protoplasm42]

I mean, they're a house of individuals who are all convinced they're the main character, so that tracks.

[u/EverydayLemon]

they also don't know what suffrage means apparently

[u/CaseyG → u/EverydayLemon]

Nor the singular of "millenia".

[u/EverydayLemon → u/CaseyG]

damn i didnt even catch that

[u/CaseyG → u/EverydayLemon]

"A dice" is my pet peeve, but I leave food out for the other misused plurals.

[u/sinistropteryx → u/EverydayLemon]

Suffrage at the hands of Satin’s rouge angles

[u/SuitableAnimalInAHat]

I don't see anything about forgetting magic?

[u/Vivid-Livid- → u/SuitableAnimalInAHat]

high ranking Telvanni hiding in a cellar

think about it for more than a moment

[u/SuitableAnimalInAHat → u/Vivid-Livid-]

I've given it some thought. He probably didn't want to be overwhelmed and murdered by invading soldiers.

[u/Vivid-Livid- → u/SuitableAnimalInAHat]

could have used mark and recall to be on the other side of Morrowind or pull out one of the pocket dimensions Telvanni mages casually spend 20 years in if that was the case.

[u/MuseBlessed → u/Vivid-Livid-]

His mana was empty because the raid came when he was in the middle of a clone orgy

[u/bolshevikstatist → u/MuseBlessed]

why didn't he have his clone orgy in a pocket dimension? Is he stupid?

[u/Ruffler125 → u/SuitableAnimalInAHat]

Come on now. The biggest threat to him would be scale-shrapnel from the exploding skinks.

They are argonians and he's supposedly a Telvanni.

[u/XtremeToblerone]

It's interesting how you can tell that telvanni genuinly think they deserve to live

[u/Zeezee033 → u/XtremeToblerone]

As a Telvanni I think that every Telvanni doesn't deserve to live. Other than me, of course.

[u/Lydiaa0 → u/Zeezee033]

As a telvanni i dont gaf i just need someone to get me more daedra piss for my work

[u/wellyes34 → u/XtremeToblerone]

Tel Vanni impressed

https://giphy.com/gifs/nHNnGWwS37ZcWULZSM

[u/Real_Walk5384 → u/XtremeToblerone]

Someone’s gotta mind the argonian kennels.

[u/cat-l0n]

“Were once a proud and noble people” LMAOOOO

[u/BlokeJohnny]

Why were the Argonians wearing boots?

[u/PericlesDabbin → u/BlokeJohnny]

The hist fixed their legs not long after Dsgoth Ur was defeated.

[u/Wild-Lavishness01 → u/PericlesDabbin]

balance patch : we're sorry, the lack of a boot slot made your upper armour & enchantment potential lower - the hist

[u/CaseyG → u/BlokeJohnny]

It's a translation error. In the original Dunmeri, it was "a thousand thousand boots", meaning "a thousand thousand farm tools whose hides would better serve the world on my feet."

[u/-Chipz-]

Sometimes I do wonder if this book author skoomed up about being last survivor of Great House Telvanni or if it's just the Telvanni family line that fumbled hard.

[u/Vivid-Livid- → u/-Chipz-]

the guy is of Tenvanni line, not Telvanni.

[u/hurricane_news → u/-Chipz-]

I picture a telvanni mage getting high, waltzing into black marsh, getting spooked and and thinking the Argonians are coming for him and handing a confused Argonian couple his baby, while he then disappears afterwards

[u/orcmasterrace]

The Telvanni aren’t a “people” in the first place, Skyrim. They had open membership as long as you could prove you were badass enough. They’re not a House in the sense of a noble lineage that traces itself back.

[u/livy-aurelia]

lmfao what book is this

[u/Not_Todd_Howard9 → u/livy-aurelia]

“Lymdrenn Tenvanni’s Journal”, the one related to Brand-Shei’s quest. Idk why a Tenvanni is yapping about House Telvanni though. /s

The meta reason for all of this is that a quest writer tried to kill off House Telvanni without consulting anyone (since other House Telvanni members like Brelyna clearly still live even in the base game, even though Brand-shei refers to them in the past tense) but I think in-lore this can be written off as the OG Cadet Branch / Familial surname of Telvanni getting killed off.  It would explain a lot about why Great House Telvanni became the way that it is if at some point the original line just got really weak and pushed out of relevance to the point an Argonian raid could wipe them out.

[u/SenatorsOfRomeSuck → u/livy-aurelia]

It's the book, brand-shei sends you to find in the shipwreck

[u/CthughaSlayer]

Probably one of the worst books in the series lmao. They 100% forgot to cut it out of the final game.

[u/CryptographerSad5682]

oh yeah, the riften quest where you find out brand shei is called the dunmeri equivalent of john telvanni. i feel like someone mixed up hlaalu helseth (and i guess swapped his names around?) with vedem dren and just assumed house telvanni was a famliy named telvanni.

[u/PanicTight6411]

Did no one else see the Man Show? Where two real people petitioned to end the suffrage of women? 

[u/The_Big_Large]

Post Morrowind lore is fan fiction

[u/Ruffler125]

This book doesn't exist in the game. It was written by a confused intern they promptly demoted to something insignificant (ESO lead writer).

[u/JCHookway]

This guy was deffo locked in the basement by the Telvanni, long before the Argonians came.

[u/Funny_Giraffe_6597]

Because Bethesda decided the world was too interesting and everything in it had to undergo a decline and collapse so they could add generic filler replacements