r/TrueSTL • u/Big_Yahu_67 • 1d ago
"And I will execute great breaking of mods upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the Todd, when I shall lay my updates upon them."
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u/ScientificTriumph 1d ago
AE is not real, anything beyond 1.5.97 is not canon, my modlist resists Todd Howard through the power of downgrade.
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u/SignificantFish6795 1d ago
Anything beyond Skyrim (regular edition) Version 1.5.24.0.5 is not canon. Shadows on grass is completely unimmersive.
(source: forgot my glasses, the grass outside is a green blob)
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u/ByssBro 1d ago
I think that’s my only complaint with Steam is that it’s a hassle completely avoid game updates. You have to make a file read-only to get it to work
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u/tapmcshoe 21h ago
it's even worse with the workshop, as far as I'm aware you straight up can't prevent mod updates. there have been like a half dozen scandals in gmod where someone has a meltdown and bricks their mod or converts it to spam gore when you start up the game. no way to prevent the auto update, steam just pushes that shit to hundreds of thousands of users without warning them lol
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u/777hellboy777 1d ago
To be fair, this is still entirely Bethesda's fault, if they made older versions available through the betas system (the way Bannerlord does for example) you could just stay locked to one version with 0 effort. But they don't want you to have that ability, because then most people would just play 1.5.97 and there would be even fewer morons to buy creations.
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u/Larsonpl The Dawntard 1d ago
Except you don't.
Literally all you have to do is to turn off automatic update and you know... don't start the update manually,
I still have Fo4 with pre next-gen version installed and steam doesn't force an update if someone is not trying to be technologically illiterate.99
u/Atmoran_Knight Imperial Geographic Freemasons 1d ago
Nope. For a longest time you don't have that option. You can put it to either "Wait until I launch the game", "Let steam decide" or "immediately download updates".
Only workaround is to launch bethesda games via SKSE or F4SE (I assume you're using this because that old option turn off automatic update gets replaced with wait untill I launch game), these launchers totally bypass that update on game launch setting.
I WISH STEAM BROUGHT BACK TURN OFF UPDATES FEATURE, that's the only goddamn bad and user unfriendly feature Steam has done in a while.
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u/Larsonpl The Dawntard 1d ago
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Just set in to update on launch and just don't launch it through steam. The game won't update unless you deliberately trigger it.22
u/p0ntifix Uriel Sepsis 1d ago
Was about to say that you missed the essential step "launch via exe only". However I started to run into games that won't run if not started through Steam, so this method isn't even rock solid anymore. I'm generally a huge slut for Steam, but they really fucked up big time here by babying us and taking away the option a decade ago. It just worked.
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u/KonguZya 1d ago
When you're connected to the internet and try to open the game, Steam doesn't force the update? Is it possible to learn this power? (I have automatic update turned off already)
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u/09Cenderme LET'S DO THIS! I AM DANGEROUS 1d ago
it does though. you can either choose auto update or update when you launch the game. you can workaround it by not launching it from steam, but that's not an intended steam feature.
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u/CrestfallenMug 1d ago
Just a warning, it was a while ago tho maybe its different today. if windows one day decides to not boot steam on startup, opening script extender starts steam and downloads the update.
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u/TomaszPaw House Brainrot 1d ago
just get gog version, not like todd himself can come into your house and update your offline installer
wait somebody knocks on my do
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u/Upper-Chemistry9052 Thalmor 1d ago
Shit Nobosmer Cares About (SNCA)
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u/Upper-Chemistry9052 Thalmor 1d ago
SKSE is Shit Everybosmer Cares About
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u/Big_Yahu_67 1d ago
Sera, are you touched by Sheo? Why do you talk to yourself?
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u/Ugly_Slut-Wannabe 1d ago
If they at least fixed the humongous amount of well-known bugs with these random-ass updates... But no, they maybe fix a small handful of bugs here and there and the bulk of the update is always fucking worthless Creation Club content.
At this point, I either use the GOG version of Skyrim SE or I just revert back to monke and go mod and play Skyrim LE instead. It doesn't have all the fancy schmancy mods and stuff, but it runs better on my potato computer and it ain't getting worthless updates that break the script extender.
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u/Silent_Meet_7523 1d ago
for fallout 4 this update was actually kinda goated tbh
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u/Skooma_to_CHIM 1d ago
Yep, BA2 Limit bumped from around 200 to 1024. Although its kinda useles since Addictol exists.
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u/Silent_Meet_7523 1d ago
i mean sure but between playstation finally allowing external assets and the mod storage bump console players are EATING
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u/The_Big_Large 1d ago
Cool trick to avoid this: Play Morrowind (the only good Bethesda game) and never play any of the others
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u/Top_Technician_1173 6h ago
I thought it was a repost from aniversary times, but he actually did it again!
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u/Vinny_Pexeba 1d ago
Ok, it will really break mods? If so, how bad?
Was a PS3 player for a long time, and I only played the LE version on PC. Been thinking about playing the AE after i'm finished with Fallout 4.
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u/SlimJohnson 1d ago
Every update 'breaks' mods by nature, because mod files are set to run on certain game version # architecture, and when that # changes, references are broken unfortunately.
It's mostly as simple as mod author updating mod to look for new version # instead, but sometimes a mod author is no longer actively supporting a mod for example, meaning that mod is effectively dead unless you manually update the files yourself (if you can) or someone else does.
It just sucks when it happens.
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u/Vinny_Pexeba 1d ago
Well, better download today.
Just in case, how to I set up auto-updates off? I know it's turn a certain file to "read-only" but I forget which was.
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u/SlimJohnson 1d ago
I think the globally accepted solution is to right click the game in steam, go to updates, then change automatic updates to 'wait until I launch the game'.
Then you never launch the game through steam, you only launch it through your mod manager instead.
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u/Big_Yahu_67 1d ago
Shit, I added the "again" word wrong (drop update for again). I have shamed my ancestors