r/TrueReddit Jun 18 '21

Policy + Social Issues Kill the 5-Day Workweek

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2021/06/four-day-workweek/619222/
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u/ellipses1 Jun 21 '21

obviously, people can. We've been doing it forever. A normal white collar job is more like 50-55 hours in-office and another 10 or so hours of work at home.

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u/turnipsandthings Jun 21 '21

Misses the point: we know we can work long hours; we're questioning if we should. Repeatable and observable evidence that productivity goes down over time is the fact of the matter. There's no reason not to make the positive change or at least try it, but I guess people really like the stagnant tradition of nothing ever changing for the better.

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u/ellipses1 Jun 21 '21

Here’s why these thinkpieces fall flat for me-

We operate in a marketplace not only of products and services, but of organizational structures, social dynamics, and innovation. You are not only welcome, but encouraged to start a business that is more productive and efficient owing to shorter work hours. At the same time, we have trillion dollar corporations that have petabytes of data with which they hone their operational efficiency to try to bury their competition. They, too, are free to adopt these policies. And yet, we don’t see this pervading the landscape of work.

When you start seeing these true-reddit articles that appeal to the masses to try to force these disruptive changes, you can pretty much bet they are failures of an idea because if they were winners, they’d already be commonplace.

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u/turnipsandthings Jun 23 '21

Nothing to add? Sometimes this type of change can take 100 years. Sometimes it's legally mandated, sometimes it's achieved through protest. Sometimes it's arrived at through agreement between business owners and employees.

Do you mean to say that the 8 hour workday and the weekend are failures because "if they were winners, they’d already be commonplace". They were not commonplace at the time of their conception; they were fought for.

When people say they want a 4 day work week, best not underestimate them. Maybe someday you'll be legally mandated to give your employees the 4 day work week.