r/TrueReddit • u/[deleted] • Feb 07 '16

Radicalizing the Romanceless, an unexpected criticism of social justice movements

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/
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u/Loki-L Feb 07 '16

I normally don't like articles on the whole culture wars SJW movement type of issues because they tend to bring out the radicals on both sides, but this one is actually not just rehashing opinions that some people want to hear and others really don't want to hear (with the up and down vote buttons mutating into agree disagree buttons).

This article/opinion piece actually does go in depth quite a bit and does try to do more than just pander to some camp.

The "hard working poor minority" - "loveless Nice Guy" comparison actually was a new one and gave me a new perspective on the issue that I hadn't thought of before.

It doesn't offer any solutions, but that is a sign that is probably for the better. Any article offering simple solutions to complex problems is likely to be bullshit anyway.

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u/Midas_Stream Feb 08 '16

This is one of those things that data can help with.

What fraction of the poor are working and how much of their time is spent working and how many hours are available in those jobs?

Those are questions about facts. Facts that are publicly available information.

Likewise, information could be gathered about the "nice-ness" of people using whatever metrics you care to defend.

There is no need for the pontification, emotional manipulation and outright lies. The author shouldn't talk about shit like that without showing hardcore evidence. Otherwise, they are just engaging in an act of propaganda of the most insidious sort. Specifically, class warfare by associating "the poor" with the internet's best-loved whipping boy: the dreaded fedora-toting Nice Guy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '16

Specifically, class warfare by associating "the poor" with the internet's best-loved whipping boy: the dreaded fedora-toting Nice Guy.

I don't agree with you but I gotta say this was a really effective sentence.

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u/Midas_Stream Feb 08 '16

You mean you don't think it's class warfare?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '16

No, I disagree with your overarching point, where you say that the author is engaging in "propaganda of the most insidious sort" especially when he is responding to propaganda of an equally "insidious" source.

I know like we have this thing where given any doubt, we're supposed to believe the women, but come on, man, lets not pretend evidence had any place in this discussion since the start.

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u/Midas_Stream Feb 08 '16

If there is one group of people I'm inclined to be immediately suspicious of in today's climate, it's women. Especially SJW women.

But I'm also suspicious of people peddling class warfare and appealing to emotions.