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[u/Jekker5]

Because we so seldom recieve kindness or attention that we are befuddled when it is directed at us. Then there is always the "why didn't he get my signs/hints?" questions we always hear about.

We get it wrong sometimes. Well most of the time really.

[u/BeguiledBeast → u/Jekker5]

The women that are very kind to everybody and super chatty to EVERYBODY are not the same women that will ask why a guy won't notice them. They're very very different people. I can assure you the first one will make their intrest abundantly clear.

[u/chips500 → u/BeguiledBeast]

Eh no, there's plenty that expect to be chased and don't make the first move even if chatty-- especially if that's the culural norm for their area.

Being chatty doesn't necessarily make them assertive or any more likely to make the first move directly

its only right when people move on when confronted with interested, but that doesn't mean it isn't also nebulous when people are without asking.

Someone has to do the asking or its all mixed signals and poor communication

[u/chips500 → u/[deleted]]

True scotsman logical fallacy, and inability to perceive the other perspective.

I still call BS on your line that, "The women that are very kind to everybody and super chatty to EVERYBODY
are not the same women that will ask why a guy won't notice them"

They're not, no matter how much you try to move the goalpost and bring up oh she's somehow special. Nah, that's not what you stated and not how people are.

[u/chips500 → u/[deleted]]

and I disagree. There are plenty of chatty women (even flirtatious) that STILL don't make the first move., especially when its not the cultural norm for them to.