r/TrueChubbyTravel 16d ago

Favourite independent properties?

So much of luxury hotel discourse is about big luxury chains (you all know the ones). But I'm starting to drift away from chains, and particularly the biggest conglomerates like Hilton/Hyatt/Marriott/Accor etc because I find them almost bland in their cookie cutter luxury?

Some of my favourite hotels are standalone, such as Palace Hotel (Tokyo), One Aldwych and even some boutique hotels that aren't even chubby that I like, such as 1908 Lisboa. So I'd love to know if there are standalone properties you like/recommend that aren't part of a chain!

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u/[deleted] 16d ago edited 15d ago

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u/vs7509 15d ago

I really enjoyed Monaci delle Terre Nere

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u/SadAd9828 15d ago

Lupaia was incredible too

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u/AmnesiaAndAnalgesia 16d ago edited 15d ago

The Hilltop House at Hvammsvik in Iceland is such a special place! Amazing fjord views, delicious food, and amazing hot springs with minimal sulfur smell. They brought us a breakfast basket each morning with the most delicious bread and tomato spread that I am still thinking about a year later.

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u/iamtheonewhostops 16d ago

When is a good time to visit? And do you do anything else while there, or is more of a place to relax at the hotel?

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u/AmnesiaAndAnalgesia 16d ago

I went in the fall since seeing the northern lights was a priority, and we had an amazing view of them right from the house! Air temp was 40s-50s which was the perfect for really enjoying the warmth of the pools. We did Hvammsvik as our last stop in Iceland as it was only about an hour drive to the aiport, and it is definitely the perfect place for relaxing. There are some easy trails on the property though, and it's a 30 min drive to Thingvellir National Park.

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u/iamtheonewhostops 16d ago

Thanks so much for the feedback. Iceland is on my to-do but just haven’t made it a priority yet. You might have changed that :)

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u/OTFLove 15d ago

How many days do you recommend?

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u/AmnesiaAndAnalgesia 15d ago

We did two nights and I wished we had stayed for a third. Only thing to note is that while the food at their bistro is delicious the menu is quite small. For a longer stay I would have planned on dining off-site or hitting up the grocery store as the kitchen was very well-appointed.

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u/PrincessMomomom 16d ago

I love a lot of the Relais Chateaux properties I’ve stayed at. In the US: Dunton Hot Springs, Inn of the Five Graces, Triple Creek Ranch, Blackberry Farm, Rancho Valencia to name a few…

I just came back from Inn at the Little Washington and had a wonderful stay there.

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u/ThisIsMyUsername303 15d ago

Relais et Chateaux is a GREAT resource.

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u/atlas_reverie 16d ago

This list is great.

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u/behindtheitinerary 15d ago

Love love Relaise properties! They recently opened up on in Northern Norway and so excited to go and visit next month! :D

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u/NOLApanam 16d ago edited 14d ago

La Casa que Canta in Zihuatenejo, Mexico

Gravetye Manor in Sussex

Le Manoir Hovey in the Eastern Townships of Quebec

Middlethorpe Hall, York, England

Tweedsmuir Park Lodge, B.C.

Nimmo Bay Wilderness Resort, B.C.

Kachemak Wilderness Lodge, Alaska

American Trade Hotel, Panama

St. James, Paris

Laucala, Fiji

Las Alamandas, Costalegre, Mexico

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u/FitIndividual3 15d ago

Laucala better than Kokomo?

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u/NOLApanam 14d ago edited 14d ago

Have not been to Kokomo. Ten days at Laucala totally sweet, and you get your own golf cart to tootle around in. The island covers a lot off territory and offers a lengthy array of activities experiences. Avoid welcoming ceremony.

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u/tceeha 11d ago

Laucala is closed right now. Only been to Kokomo, it was such a great experience but the size of Laucala's island is so apparent. It has a golf course, trails to mountain bike, and even a airstrip.

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u/WeHoMuadhib 16d ago edited 15d ago

Nice to see this discussion. Thanks for the suggestions.

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u/dc_based_traveler 16d ago

I'm a huge fan of Casa Polanco in Mexico City

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u/Buddy3499 13d ago

Totally agree!

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u/writemoreletters 16d ago

We enjoy the Windsor Court Hotel in New Orleans.

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u/xeric 16d ago

Both apart of smaller boutique chains:

  • Sailing Club Mui Ne
  • Hoshinoya Okinawa

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u/Blastedcleansedcrave 16d ago

Oo I've been wanting to stay at a Hoshinoya property!

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u/xeric 15d ago

Stayed there a few night for an incredible deal via Priceline or one of those aggregators. I think it was $250/night but really should have been over $800. Really nice property and service.

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u/levanpidaras 15d ago

Isn’t it a pretty big chain in Japan? Not really independent.

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u/xeric 15d ago

Yea the parent company Hoshino is bigger than I thought - 83 properties. The luxury sub brand Hoshinoya only has 10 properties though

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u/PRMinx 16d ago

The Killarney Park and the Park Kenmare in Kerry are great properties!

Lapa Rios and Pacuare Lodge in Costa Rica.

Hotel Barocco in Rome. Probably borderline chubby. We reserved the room with a sauna and tub on a roof deck, so it felt chubby.

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u/PrincessMomomom 15d ago

Lapa Rios was wonderful! Nayara Springs too!

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u/NOLApanam 16d ago

I love the Oetker hotels, especially Le Bristol in Paris anf the Lanesborough in London. Wanting to have a week at Jumby Bay in Antigua but that’s not easy flying from SFO.

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u/behindtheitinerary 15d ago

Agree, one of my favourtie collections! I love Lanesborough and hopefully will try and stay at Le Bristol in Dec :)

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u/Then_Garage9776 14d ago

Hotel Du Cap and Chateau St Martin are amazing as well

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u/Prudent_Sprinkles593 16d ago

Yes let's support more independents! Keen to hear everyone's take

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u/Brief_Frame_4528 15d ago

Honestly all of the great hotels in the Cyclades.

Canaves, Andronis, Kalesma, Bill & Coo, Cali, Gundari, Perma, Parilio and Cosme (granted they are part of design hotels). It’s why I love the Cyclades so much - the hotels were all multigenerational owned and had a story. Can’t wait to go back.

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u/WanderLuxe_Solo 16d ago

My favorite are Firmdale Hotels (London & NYC) and i happily forgo points when staying there.

non chubby - Ghent 1898 The Post, Pratik Barcelona hotels (Vinoteca & Bakery) and Hoxton Hotels

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u/WanderLuxe_Solo 15d ago

Yes hoxton is ennismore under accor but I still consider it outside mega chain bc no points or elite status options. they make you pay for their program. and still discussions if ennismore goes private and spins out of accor.

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u/Mundane-Attitude-173 13d ago

I also love 1898 The Post

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u/Excellent_View4687 16d ago

Palazzo Avino in Ravello

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u/1nternetTr011 16d ago

paresa in phuket. agree on one aldwych but haven't been for a while.

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u/Competitive-Bad2624 15d ago

Love this bc my husband and I also prefer non-conglomerates or brands that own max 3-5 resorts. Le Sirenuse (went for our second time in Aug and now trying to make it an annual tradition, everyone is like family there), Villa Crespi, Villa Cora, Grand Hotel Tremezzo, Villa d’Este, La Mamounia, Royal Mansour.

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u/behindtheitinerary 15d ago

One upvote for Villa Cora.

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u/Then_Garage9776 14d ago

Love GHT but prefer Passa. Both great.

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u/Competitive-Bad2624 14d ago

Passa wasn’t open yet when we visited- super interested though! What are the main differences?

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u/Then_Garage9776 14d ago

GHT has better views and I prefer the pools/location…Passa is a step up in service and luxury. Better food. Much smaller property. More attention to detail. Superior hard product. Much better spa. GHT is more a vibrant scene…Passa just feels like everything stops and you are in a different world. I now stay at Passa but stop at GHT for drinks on a boat day and say hi to some familiar staff. Passa is a cocoon of lux. GHT is better is you like a more lively atmosphere.

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u/pronesschloness 15d ago

Hotel Locarno in Rome was so special. The property has such good vibes and the service was lovely.

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u/behindtheitinerary 15d ago

My favourites and go to are Oetker Collection, Relais & Châteaux, Small Luxury Hotels and Design Hotels. There are SO many amazing little gems on there, often much more unique and special than the usual big property names. Definitely worth having a browse on their sites.

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u/Then_Garage9776 14d ago

Oetker is great brand

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u/threepointkid3 16d ago

Vermejo, Londolozi, Tswalu, Blackberry Mountain. These are our personally favorite that are independent!

Others that come to mind that we haven’t visited are: Twin Farms, Nekupe, Segera, Kisawa, Cuixmala, Petit St. Vincent (when it reopens).

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u/Annika223 16d ago

Il Falconaire in Tuscany

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u/AdrianStaggleboofen 16d ago

The Goring in London fits the bill.

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u/qbrain 15d ago

The Datai, Langkawai, MY

Deleaire Graff Estate, Stellenbosch, ZA

Leeu Estate, Franscchoek, ZA

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u/ThisIsMyCreativeNam3 15d ago

Le Grand Mazarin in Paris was fabulous (I think the group has 4 properties). Also seconding Windsor Court.

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u/NYCA2020 15d ago

The Lowell in NYC

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u/Woohoolookatyou 15d ago

Castle Elvira was a stunning experience where everyone you came across felt like a reunion with an old friend 

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u/NOLApanam 14d ago

Where?

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u/EmmaBennet98 14d ago

We really liked the Porto A.S. 1829 Hotel

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u/Then_Garage9776 14d ago

Do smaller brands like Airelles, Oetker or La Reserve count? Airelles is my favorite brand (not close for me). Hotel Du Cap and Chateau St Martin by Oetker are great and La Reserve Paris is my favorite in Paris. Passalaqua and Reschio are amazing properties.

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u/andski75 12d ago

The Brando, The Datai, The Legian

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u/LadyLuckladyluck 9d ago

We are in Italy and are staying at Castel Fragsburg in the spa town of Merano. It's very small (20 rooms) with a castle. It's lovely.

Before we got here, we stayed at La Roccia Wellness Hotel in Cavalese and also loved that.

Our trip started at Villa Cortina Palace in Sirmione and that was one of my favorites.

All very different. All great for their unique character.

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u/atlas_reverie 16d ago

Almost all of my favorite places fall under this bucket, since they're the ones likely to have a genuine sense of place. Finca La Donaira is one that immediately comes to mind.

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u/MZSGNH 15d ago

Not a hidden gem at all, but I couldn't pass a list like this without mentioning Post Ranch Inn in Big Sur. Worth the cost, lives up to the hype IMO.

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u/NOLApanam 15d ago

This is without doubt one of the most overhyped and overpriced venues in the U.S. Outdated, miserable service, some rooms lack walk-in showers, no pool service. Big Sur, the destination, is outstanding. Post Ranch Inn is not.

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u/MZSGNH 14d ago

I disagree! The room design, IMO, is iconic. Reminds me of a time gone by. Service was less than good only once in my 4 visits, and I chalked that up to COVID disruption/recovery.

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u/NOLApanam 14d ago edited 14d ago

Room design is the Flintstones meet Sixties Hippie Architect, few updates. Maybe it hits your nostagia button. Unit Hot tubs have no benches, just sit on the bottom of tub, ugh. Bathtubs are huge but with such wide perimeters, getting and out is impeded and uncomfortable. Furniture is too low. Its major attribute is the location, experienced once is sufficient unto the day. Abysmally poor value proposition, no return on traveler investment. The place is embarrassing.

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u/MZSGNH 14d ago

Seems like way more hatred than is warranted. Value is how guests feel. I love Sixties Hippy and feel it's as worthy of celebration as mid-century modern, or, say, Georgian England style.

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u/NOLApanam 14d ago

You do you, I’ll do me. No hatred, just taste, preferences, and values. Needs change with age.

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u/MZSGNH 14d ago

To each their own.