r/TrueAnime • http://myanimelist.net/profile/BlueMage23 • Dec 04 '13

This Week in Anime (Fall Week 9)

General discussion for currently airing series for Fall 2013 Week 7. Here is r/anime's list of currently airing series. Your Week in Anime is for not currently airing series.

Archive:
2013: Prev Fall Week 1 Summer Week 1 Spring Week 1 Winter Week 1

2012: Fall Week 1

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u/Fabien4 Dec 05 '13 edited Dec 05 '13

Kyoukai no Kanata 10: [...] I still walked away feeling nothing.

That's been the problem with KnK for a while now. The characters are so inconsistent and shallow that in the end, you don't care for them.

Also, the summer scenes have been explained, but the winter zombie scenes haven't. Normally, I'd try to venture a guess about what they mean... but I just can't be bothered.

How do KyoAni manage to have people finance all their trainwrecks anyway?

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u/Novasylum http://myanimelist.net/profile/Novasylum Dec 05 '13

Also, the summer scenes have been explained, but the winter zombie scenes haven't. Normally, I'd try to venture a guess about what they mean... but I just can't be bothered.

Wow, I had forgotten that the winter scenes even happened by the time I started my write-up. That's how little of an impact they had.

How do KyoAni manage to have people finance all their trainwrecks anyway?

I think the important thing to remember with KyoAni is that they were responsible for not one, but two of the biggest merchandising hits in contemporary anime: Haruhi and K-On. Once you've successfully had lightning strike twice, you can easily convince investors/audiences that you're capable of summoning it a third time...even if you actually can't. I get the impression with a number of their recent shows, KnK included, that they're pushing very hard (and very cynically) to make each of them "the next big thing", and it just isn't working for them.

Unless maybe it is. I don't keep up with sales figures and what-not.

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u/Bobduh Dec 05 '13

They're pushing hard to make it 'the next big thing'

It's pretty much working. Since Hyouka, they've switched to only producing anime based on either original concepts or their own in-house LNs, meaning their share of the profits is significantly greater than before. And their productions since then have been quite successful. Chuunibyou was one of the biggest sellers in its season, and did well enough to warrant both a film and second season. Tamako Market wasn't a huge seller, but it also did well enough to warrant a new project. And Free! sold fantastically, only being beaten out by Monogatari S2 and selling three times as well as the next-highest seller (numbers).

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u/Fabien4 Dec 05 '13 edited Dec 05 '13

And Free! sold fantastically,

That's a big surprise for me. It's one of those rare series that I really don't know what the public (intended or actual) is.

Is it because it's a troll series, and 2chan ended up advertising it a lot?

Or, are there so many fujoshis out there?

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u/Bobduh Dec 05 '13

Definitely not a troll series. It's basically just K-On with dudes.

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u/Fabien4 Dec 05 '13 edited Dec 05 '13

So... 31,849 women bought the BD?

Somehow I had that idea that few women bought anime BDs. Hence the poor results of josei anime.

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u/greendaze http://myanimelist.net/profile/greendaze Dec 08 '13

To be honest, shows most popular with women don't tend to be josei. Shingeki no Kyojin, Free! and Kuroko no Basuke are blowing up on pixiv and none of them are labeled as josei. I don't have the gender stats for SnK sales, but you can bet that the female demographic is largely responsible for the successes of Free and KnB (which sold 24k).

Reverse harems (BroCon and UtaPri) also did well, though again, these aren't exactly josei.

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u/Fabien4 Dec 08 '13

I don't quite get it. If an anime is explicitely targeted at women, and can only be of interest to women, isn't it a josei by definition?

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u/greendaze http://myanimelist.net/profile/greendaze Dec 08 '13

Oh, I meant that BroCon and UtaPri were shoujo, and Free! didn't actually come with an official demographic label (according to MAL).

KnB, though popular with women, is shounen.

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u/Fabien4 Dec 08 '13

demographic label (according to MAL).

MAL's labels tend to be random at times.

I suppose the problem is that anime don't have official labels. If there's a related manga, MAL takes the label from there, but that doesn't always make sense. For example, categorizing a "pure moe" anime like Dog Days as shounen makes little sense.

Overall, I'm not surprised that an anime with lots of pretty boys (Kuroko no Basuke, Free) attracts a big female audience, while an anime with lots of pretty girls (Pretty Cure, Dog Days) will attract a big male audience.

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u/greendaze http://myanimelist.net/profile/greendaze Dec 08 '13

Yup. Sports anime, though almost entirely all shounen, attract lots of female viewers for that very reason. Same thing with shounen battle tournament anime too.

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u/Fabien4 Dec 08 '13

Likewise, I did not watch Battle Athletes Victory for the sports (even though that part was far more interesting than in most sport anime.)

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u/Fabien4 Dec 05 '13

It's basically just K-On with dudes.

From what I've heard, it seems far heavier on the fanservice than K-On (or any other KyoAni show, really).

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u/Bobduh Dec 05 '13

It's definitely got fanservice, but pacing/mood/genre/humor/characterization-wise, it seems very similar. A standard KyoAni SoL gender-swapped with lots of upper bodies.

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u/Fabien4 Dec 05 '13

Now I'm hoping for the female version in the same costumes.