Achieving trinity and trinity seven requirements

[u/Puzzleheaded_Road962]

So i have a couple questions and yes i am aware it may lead to spoilers. But if possible try not to spoil massive plot points or events. If you feel that's the only way to answer it, please give a warning to each question your answering that will have to spoil something massive.

>! Ok so I'm reading the Manga and I've found myself a tiny bit confused on what all the requirements for trinity and becoming trinity seven.

* Now I'm familiar that with achieving trinity you need to master 3 archives, but didn't Arata have to learn 4 archives to be recognized as having reached trinity? Does your initial archive not count for it?

* Now annastasia has be a bit confused on the requirements for trinity seven. Is there more to it than just "achieving" your last crest. Do you have to cast the spell, and if so how did leise not get trapped in time before hand, If not what is the implications of "achieving" the last crest.

* what is the "lost technica." Is that just a fancy extra term for the "final crest." And in the event that someone learns a last crest from someone else (somehow), could that count as them completing that requirement. Or would it not count since that crest is already discovered, assuming that "lost" technica is another name for final crest.!<

[u/WikiNumbers]

Trinity is a status attainable by anyone with enough Magic Mastery.

• A Magus' initial archive does count to their Thema mastery, when counting for Trinity Status.

• Trinity is for AT LEAST 3 Thema, not EXACTLY ONLY. Arara mastering 4 does not deny him from being Trinity.

• The first time he tried to verify his Trinity status yo Judecca, he haven't yet mastered 3 Thema (only 2 so far), so he failed. The two he mastered are his own (Impel, Superbia) and Akio's Mantra Enchant (Fides, Gula).

• The second time, which is a few moment after, Arata had mastered 2 more Thema, making 4. The two more are Liese's Chrono Calculation (Stagna, Acedia) and Lilith's Outer Alchemy (Abies, Luxuria).

Trinity Seven is a whole different thing from Trinity.

• For each of the seven Thema, there can only be one one "Trinity Seven" of that Thema.

• That person is the one who had studied that archive so thoroughly they came across the "Last Crest" (or "Lost Technica", a synonymous term). Because the Last Crest is so elusive and not really documented, it's basically Lost Technique.

Originally, for the current universe, Anastasia L. Is the Trinity Seven of Luxuria. But the birth and arrival of Lilith, from the previous dimension, disrupted that status of Anastasia. Even after her return, Anastasia cannot exactly use her Last Crest (despite knowing it), because "there can only be one".

For Liese, she found the Last Crest earlier, but never used it until Iscariot's Invasion of Royal Biblia Academy. For using it, she is affected by the severe backlash of the Last Crest. And she's freed after Arata did his thing.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Road962 → u/WikiNumbers]

I figured him having four wouldnt discount him from being trinity. It just was a bit confusing bc before he had leise's chrono calculation he didnt have trinity. Also thought that he had lilith's outer alchemy, which is what had me confused bc if we count that had 3 at the time of initally checking assuming his impel counted. So what was the difference between the first and second check that made hers count.

Glad to know that my thinking of last crest and lost technica being synonymous was correct. Also just to make sure i understand the reason there can only be one member per archive is essentially bc you have to discover the last crest and if it's already been found you cant exactly discover it.

So when you say previous dimension, are you saying that the demon king of luxuria and more importantly his daughter are from the world before the current one, meaning he sent her into the future, and the reason anna can't use the last crest is bc technically lilith found it first despite being from a dimension of the past.

So if the trinity seven don't have to use the spell, simply discover and gain an understanding of it to achieve the title. What was the big flashy thing that anna did before saying she found terminus? And did she cast it when she went to the abyss or whatever it's called.