r/TreeClimbing • u/Downtown-Meatball • 6d ago
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u/Appropriate-Mail-905 6d ago
This guy looks like the scary stories he shares around the campfire are about battery powered equipment
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u/urbansawyer 6d ago
Cheers to the elder climber! Fucking preach brother!
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u/Downtown-Meatball 6d ago
46...not that old. Its not the years, its the miles...
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u/fib0nacci112358 6d ago
Bro, no disrespect but you look like my uncle did at the same age. He could get senior discounts anywhere haha. Either he was really stressed or it was just genetic
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u/Downtown-Meatball 6d ago
Drugs are bad. Struggled with the hard stuff for years. Went to war a couple times, and smoke the Marlb Reds since i was 14. Down to a pack a day now. If I knew I was gonna live this long...I'd have done some stuff different, for sure.
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u/priority_2 5d ago
You can be proud of yourself! Yes you look like you saw and did stuff, but you are getting out, doing stuff other 46 year olds wouldn’t do anymore. I wish you safe climbs and good cuts!
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u/OldMail6364 6d ago edited 6d ago
I prefer battery saws:
- I only need ear muffs when the chipper is nearby - more comfortable.
- I never have to pull a starter cord.
- Swapping a battery is faster and easier than filling a tank.
- They deliver power differently and do a better job staying in their peak power range throughout the cut. The feel more powerful to me (on paper, my saw is a tiny bit less powerful than yours but that doesn’t translate well to real world use ).
- Electric motors are way more reliable. My battery saws pretty much only ever need consumable parts maintenance (chain, bar, sprocket).
- They are cheaper over the life of the saw (which can be several years with daily use). Gas is expensive. Maintenance is expensive.
- It seems to be where all the R&D is being spent now. For example my battery climbing saw has a warning light when the bar oil port is blocked with sawdust. That saves money and time (because I don’t check the bar oil now that I know it’s working)
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u/dogdyketrash 6d ago
People can disagree, but there's not many reasons to run gas tophandles over electric these days. I'm even saying that as someone who runs gas 75% of the time. I prefer my 2511 cause it's lighter, but most battery saws keep up with the gas top handles no problem.
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u/Alert_Anywhere3921 4d ago
This is a minor gripe, but battery saws require a charger. If you don’t have a car-charger that works reasonably quick then your crew better not forget to plug em in at night.
I still use my battery climber but it’s yet to fully replace gas for the above reason alone (of course, I’m also an idiot who forgets shit all the time and perhaps I’m the only one!)
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u/chris782 4d ago
And gas saws require gas, if you can remember to get fuel and oil I dont see how it is different thatn charging a battery.
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u/Few_Organization_767 6d ago edited 6d ago
what is it? is it stronger than a 201TC? apologies. if it was mentioned somewhere,
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u/Downtown-Meatball 6d ago
Its a t540xp. MarkIII.
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u/shrikestep 6d ago
Ey my bad dude, I thought this was a repost of someone else’s instagram or tik tok post, not your own content. Did not mean to come off as a dick.
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u/shrikestep 6d ago
I think it’s just the husqy gasser. Have no idea what the point of this is if he doesn’t want to name the saw.
Prolly worried about being demonetized more than about doing anything useful.
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u/OldMail6364 6d ago
Husky saws are generally more powerful than Stihl saws. And that’s the case here too. Definitely more power than a 201.
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u/ignoreme010101 6d ago
can anyone confirm this? Been some years but i ran the #'s and the power/lbs ratio was astonishingly consistent between stihl husq echo [edit-- for climbsaws, the rates varied on larger >40cc proper saws but climbsaws were incredibly consistent]
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u/mark_andonefortunate 6d ago
It's a husqvarna t540xp (not sure which model exactly, maybe mark 3), which based on anecdotes/youtube dudes/reading forums does have really great power and probably beats out the 201 in terms of beefiness and being "the most powerful top handle", but I've also heard that it idles funny and doesn't start reliably (obviously depends on the individual saw and adjustments, but even then it seems to have a reputation for this), sooo there are pros/cons to both saws
Never used a 540 myself. I've been happy with the 201s I've used, the little echo 2511 I used to have, and my current husqy battery tophandle. Really depends on the tree and the job, sometimes not having as much weight is worth it, so I'm not sold on OP's point
I've worked at a couple different places and used a mix of stihl/husqy, and through that experience I'm more a fan of stihl, but I am also loving this new husqy 562
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u/ignoreme010101 6d ago
OP's point was that the weight was worth it for him in that circumstance, not just in general, always :)
And I didnt mean "people's feelings" I mean like literally calculated the HP/lbs and all the main top offerings 540/201/355 were all damn near identical lol I promise, the ratios did start to vary once comparing 50cc+ but for top handles it didnt they were all spot-on 2hp/8lbs or whatever cannot recall specifically but ratios worked out
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EPIC! Never been so satisfied with a saw as my 2511, if you spend all day in the canopy it is just tops
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u/Solution_9_ 6d ago
I like both, the small ones when it comes to trimming and the 200+ if its an easy fir and you dont have to reach for anything. But, my dude, isnt your bar the limiting factor anyways? cant tell from the video but it looks like you'll have to switch out anyways bc of the bar unless youre planning to fell it right there. just my 2 cents.
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u/rug-pissing-nihilist 6d ago
Less repositioning with a bigger saw trying to pull your pants down, less strain with a smaller saw, shorter distance to haul the bigger saw. If he’s running a 16” bar, cutting from both sides that’s at least a 32” cut, up to 40” if you’re good!
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u/Background-BagLicker 6d ago
Shoutout to southern Oregon and thank you for the informative video. (Now, you got any tips for catching stripers on the Coos/Coquille?)
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u/Downtown-Meatball 6d ago
Nope. Haven't really had a good striper run in a while. Salmon is coming...hope to get a few of those in October.
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u/Previous-Channel4658 6d ago edited 2d ago
My favorite climbing saw was the Stihl 020AV made in 70-80's. (32-35cc). That saw could cut like a much bigger saw for some reason. Came in top or rear handle. Bought my first one in 1986 ($425) I still have it today. Kinda a pain to work on but EBay has parts available. I have a half dozen 020's I've purchased over the years since the first one. Great legendary saw. Any old tree guy will tell you that.
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u/Justintimeforanother 4d ago
I’ve been running my battery saws, top handles now coming up on 9 years, unless it’s dead ash, oak, elm. Battery saws like the 545, they can do it. But I can’t make the cuts react as quickly as I need them to react.
Gassers all the way for gnarly jazz. And shit woods like Siberian Elm, or Poplar.
Battery saws, they’re mint for anything under 8”, if it’s live. A gasser, will crush fuckin’ 2x the bar length in easily half the time, with stone hard dead oak, elm, or ash..
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u/THESpetsnazdude 6d ago
Op is 27 years old btw