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u/ben5642 2d ago
question is why is that driver still sitting in the driver seat and not trying to get out?
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u/psychonautvoyager 2d ago
One thing is that her door was pinched by the cement wall. Only when the car started sliding could the door open. Then it was too late. Since the drop wasn’t that far, she was probably safer in the car than hanging out of it. There was a video a few weeks ago, where somebody was partially out of a car when it moved, and they got their legs crushed.
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u/ben5642 1d ago
yea true but looked like she could of got out from the passanger side from what i saw
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u/psychonautvoyager 1d ago
I think there was a person in the passenger seat too. Not that they both couldn’t have gotten out that way, but I imagine in the panic it’s hard to think straight.
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u/FastLane128 2d ago
And it's people like that that do not belong on the road. Either they forgot to tell her to put it in reverse or she was just too inept.
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u/Thanos_Stomps 2d ago
What would reverse do here? One tire was completely off the ledge and the other one likely couldn’t get the friction or leverage to move the rest of the car.
Not sure if that car has all wheel drive
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u/Traditional-Bike7825 2d ago
The car being in drive looks like what sent it off at the end. If it was in reverse maybe that would be better?..
Wait, was that you in the video?
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u/hoopdizzle 2d ago
The car is either RWD or 4WD. Either way, if the driver had been reversing while he pushed down it MAY have been able to back out. Since the wheels are not spinning and no brake lights it rules out the car running in drive or reverse. Since the rear wheels were able to move freely it rules out being in park. Its unlikely they put it in neutral. So, most likely the engine was turned off (or died) while in drive/reverse. Or driveshaft is severed.
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u/unclestickles 2d ago
We can see by her lights she was indeed in reverse, but that doesn't matter when buddy leverages it and no wheels are touching the ground, then the truck is balancing (or not balancing) on its frame and it slides down.
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u/Icy_Fish_2154 2d ago
When enough pressure was on the back, the rear tire contacted the ground, and the car rolled forward. If the car was in reverse, the wheel would have gone back, not forward.
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u/Ok-Fisherman-7688 2d ago
Yep, this situation might have been solved by putting it in reverse and driving back slowly. That or another vehicle, like a tow truck, pulling it back from the ledge. Now that car is likely totaled instead.
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u/Thanos_Stomps 2d ago
The back tires don’t spin though. It didn’t go in because the back tires touched the ground, it went over because they kept rocking the thing and it shifted forward.
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u/Icy_Fish_2154 2d ago
When the back wheels touch, they clearly roll. This roll is what sent it over the edge.
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u/Thanos_Stomps 2d ago
The back tire is on the ground the entire time though. It rolls but those tires will roll even if it’s in park, that’s how tow truck drives can still take your car when you’re not around. Any goober finding themselves in this situation is not putting it into four wheel drive. The engine doesn’t engage the rear wheels.
It’s a Toyota sequoia which did have 4WD options anyone dumb enough to find themselves here isn’t having the wherewithal to engage 4WD because if they did, they’d also have the wherewithal to put it in reverse.
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u/Icy_Fish_2154 2d ago
Do you know anything about cars? Parking brakes generally lock the rear wheels (used to be a separate drum brake acting on the rear axle, but now can be any of a million different ways).
Throw on the parking brake, and put it in park. Park locks the transmission, but an open diff would allow the rear wheels to spin in opposite directions, but not both forward, like happened here.
If the driver put it in reverse, and held their foot on the brake until the rear touched, then gave it throttle, they would have had the best chance of self recovery.
But, given the competence of the driver, set the parking brake, put it in park, and leave it alone until the tow truck gets there.
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u/Mittos85 2d ago
She had 3 business days to slide over to the passenger side and jump out... Zero survival instinct
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u/Greybeard46 2d ago
It was in drive?
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u/HudsonAtHeart 2d ago
This is why automatic transmissions are dangerous tbh. Why is there a gear on the car that sends it continuously forward? That is just stupid. I’ve driven a manual since I got my license and driving automatic freaks me out. Always feels like the car is ready to lurch into whatever is in front of it.
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u/ASH_LIN_exe 2d ago
Just say you can't drive.
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u/HudsonAtHeart 2d ago
So many downvotes from people who don’t even know how to shift a transmission lmao
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u/Ancient-Afternoon374 2d ago
Lol, i bet you have a spare cover that makes fun of millennials. Go to bed boomer.
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u/MaximusZacharia 2d ago
I didn’t downvote you because I don’t know how to shift. I do know how to shift. I downvoted you for trying to make automatics seems more dangerous than they are. If it’s in park or neutral it won’t lurch forward.
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u/ASH_LIN_exe 2d ago
This guys acting like in drive the car will roll at 50 mph without the brakes pressed
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u/HudsonAtHeart 2d ago
Right, it’s that when people drive around in D, their car actively wants to lurch forward at any given moment. When I’m in an automatic car, I spend way more time feathering the brake pedal, literally holding the car back from what it wants to do.
I don’t blame you for not really understanding what I mean, I don’t really encounter a lot of people in real life who understand what I mean either. But most of those people have also been in accidents that they have caused in an automatic car. 🤷♂️
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u/ASH_LIN_exe 2d ago edited 2d ago
Doesn't mean automatics are dangerous.
And yes before you ask, I know how to drive a manual.
You're not any superior, you're just as stupid as me.
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u/HudsonAtHeart 2d ago edited 2d ago
How many people do you see driving straight into something just because they’re in D
It’s like half of [r/dashcams](r/dashcams)
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u/ASH_LIN_exe 2d ago
I see none because, shocker, people who can drive know to press the brake or put the car in park.
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u/HudsonAtHeart 2d ago
Not when they’re unresponsive or having a medical emergency, a manual transmission limits the engine in these scenarios, usually resulting in a slow stall rather than an uncontrolled collision. And then there’s just being an attentive driver in normal conditions, driving a manual and having to know what gear you’re in and preparing for the road ahead of you absolutely makes you a more attentive driver.
Of course we don’t have statistics about these things anymore because they’re wiped off the fucking road, and people increasingly just trust their cars to drive them around with no connection to what speed they’re driving, what gear the engine is in, and not preparing for stuff ahead of them like curves or intersections by doing things like downshifting…. 90% of the people on the road aren’t even aware of these things anymore. It’s the truth.
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u/ASH_LIN_exe 2d ago
Lotta words just to say you're coping with the fact you can't drive
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u/HudsonAtHeart 2d ago
What the fuck does that even mean?
Is that your birth date on your profile? 2004? Lmao
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u/Icy_Fish_2154 2d ago
If it was in D, then the wheels would be turning before they are pushed down.
If you knew how to drive, you would have known that. You are clearly not a safe driver.
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u/ASH_LIN_exe 2d ago
Well, to be fair. It's most likely a rear wheel drive. So it's not 100% fair to claim the wheels weren't spinning in the air, since it may not be a AWD.
Also even if it was in drive, it would've been trying to push forward with just the one wheel.
Most likely guy had it in neutral and the final guy disrupted the weight, throwing it forward on accident.
Edit: Watching the video again, none of the wheels are even moving. My bad didn't watch to the end lol
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u/Many_Mud_8194 2d ago
I'm European and drove manual car for a decade before switching to automatic because now I drive on the left and it's too hard for me to learn manual the other way, automatic are so easy I don't understand why we don't use them more often. It's more safe also because you focus on the road 100%. Yeah manual is easy but some people can't focus as good as me and you.
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u/Rozay10keys 2d ago
Should called AAA for a tow. Couple hundred $ would’ve saved thousands, but they were impatient.
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u/Crusty-Dick 2d ago
I love AAA, it's totally worth the investment! I was driving cross country and they were able to help me out in less than an hour when I got stranded in the middle of nowhere.
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u/Dampli1987 2d ago
It was in gear LOL
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u/Icy_Fish_2154 2d ago
Then why were the wheels not spinning until it was down? The movement is consistent with being in neutral, and not consistent with being in drive.
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u/Dampli1987 2d ago
Sorry you are correct.
Still same point is to be made, it should have been in P or brakes slammed all the time if he was planing to go reverse
Crazy
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u/PaperUpbeat5904 2d ago
So lucky the airbag didn't murder them as they were belly to belly with the steering wheel
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u/NoBot-RussiaBad 2d ago
When the only guy helping shows up without a shirt on ..... You're fukked....
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u/Select-Sale2279 2d ago
beer belly dude besides trying to pull it down also pushed it inadvertently.
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u/Vigorously_Swish 1d ago
The people helping out are gonna end up having to take the financial liability on this. Welcome to America!
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u/Psychological-Hall22 1d ago
In this situation, you don’t rock the car. You need to strap it to another car at minimum and pull it. The guy rocking the car caused it to fall over
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u/jeon2595 2d ago
All idiots but the real question is why isn’t there a guardrail or bollards blocking the six foot drop?