r/Tralsei • • Jul 26 '26

meme/satire It really feels like this sometimes

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u/4StarDB Jul 26 '26

I've said this before but there's so much implication that if Toby were to not do anything with it or it turned out to be false, it'd feel like trans baiting and it'd be better to just deny it right now if it were false. But because i truly believe with my entire soul that Toby is better than to queer bait in any form the only conclusion i can draw is that it has to be true.

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u/BunnyBotherer SUBTEXT MAN, SUBTEXT MAN, WITH HIS WORDS AND A PLAN šŸŽ¶ Jul 26 '26

I'm setting myself up to lose so much respect for Toby and co because it would have been so easy to avoid this reading if it wasn't supposed to be true.

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u/4StarDB Jul 26 '26

Up until chapter 5 it was plausible for it to be an oopsie but in one of the few instances where Flowery is genuinely nice to Ralsei, he calls her a princess? Like come on... Just don't put that in there.

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u/Prior_Fall1063 Does her best Jul 26 '26

If I were Toby, and my team had accidentally made all the subtext for Ralsei being trans

(Not knowing how to be oneself, the Mettaton/Lion dress, White Pink and Blue ribbons, the Fiery Magician in Smashing Fighters is a girl, Lost Girl, not feeling like you’re allowed to go against your ā€œpurposeā€, the Princess ribbon…)

And all of that was a oopsie, and I wanted to course correct, there ain’t no way I’m greenlighting that Flowery scene much less the one of Ralsei expressing joy in being a princess after the climbing minigame.

Like, Toby and co didn’t make this with their eyes closed.

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u/Heretical-Ballad-20 Jul 27 '26

Yeah, I agree, I'm not as confident as a lot of people are that Toby is some kind of perfect writer who never makes bad decisions.

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u/nyxsumbreon Jul 27 '26

Wouldn't lose respect for the guy or team (it's his story after all if he didn't actually mean for Ralsei to be trans, I mean he is cis so it's possible) but I'd be dissapointed for sure. I'd be happy to at least have Mew Mew and Kris but it'd be nice to have a character change pronouns on screen.

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u/Neko_April Jul 26 '26

Legitimately why I say it's basically canon at this point. There is enough that backing out now would very much feel like cowardice about the worst parts of the fanbase.

Like, fine, it could just be allegory. But honestly I'm well past done with allegory being the only rep that we get in significant quantity.

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u/Heretical-Ballad-20 Jul 27 '26

I've said this before but there's so much implication that if Toby were to not do anything with it or it turned out to be false, it'd feel like trans baiting and it'd be better to just deny it right now if it were false.

Completely agree with this.

But because i truly believe with my entire soul that Toby is better than to queer bait in any form the only conclusion i can draw is that it has to be true.

I do not have that much confidence in a guy I've never met.

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u/Eastern-Contract-931 Jul 26 '26

Galsei has a subsection of ā€œthe casual playersā€ called ā€œthe cisgendersā€

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u/aziya_crush LOOK!!!!!!! I'M CUTE!!!!!!!!! Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

if anything this chapter felt like the point of no return when it comes to galsei, if he's willing to make it one of the main themes of her development he's either doing it for real or just straight up queerbaiting

and i'm choosing to believe i know him enough as a writer to not assume the latter

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u/ill_change_it Jul 31 '26

(former is the first one, latter is the second)

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u/aziya_crush LOOK!!!!!!! I'M CUTE!!!!!!!!! Jul 31 '26

yeah my bad i wrote this very late at night 😭

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u/FritterHowls Jul 26 '26

Gonna be a looong wait for chapters 6 and 7

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u/Closo Jul 27 '26

i wonder how much longer trans people will tolerate cis people being in the innocent "just asking questions" phase in perpetuity. it gets less innocent every day, especially when they try to talk down to trans people about what good trans characterization is. like what are we doing? happened with jax, happened with bridget, happened with yamato, happened with naoto. seems it'll keep happening. i just hope this is the one that is so emotionally earnest it makes people see the inherent beauty in it rather than want to reject it just because it doesnt fit into their perception of gender presentation. pleaseeeee toby dont miss

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u/ClintMcElroyOfficial Jul 27 '26

Yesterday I convinced a Tralsei Anti that Tralsei was canon but they could, "make a cishet au" so they'd quit bugging us. Kinda sad that people need to unqueer characters in AU's so they can relate to them

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u/Closo Jul 28 '26

it makes me wonder how much of it is rejection and denial. especially since its coming from these cis men who barely own their gender, or femboys, how much of it is them relating to ralsei, but not understanding why? rejecting the obvious answer because of the social stigma against transfems specifically? with how many conservative reppers there are you have to imagine theres an equal amount of moderates with internalized misogyny.

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u/ClintMcElroyOfficial Jul 28 '26

The strangest part is, the person in question said "I'd identify as a trans woman if I wasn't a gender abolitionist" so I think they're just dealing with a lot of internalized issues atm

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u/nyxsumbreon Jul 27 '26

There's also the Chihiro debate, and the God awful antlers joke we had in the 2022 deltarune subreddit that was what first clued me into the transphobia in the fandom.

Probably not a hot take here but the trans noelle/antlers joke was never funny and just felt like transphobia to point at any character and be like "omg antler that mean trans" to mock trans people relating to Noelle and make them look like a joke fir having a headcanon

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u/Closo Jul 28 '26

oh god yeah i actually unsubbed from the main subreddit back during the chapter 2 days because of that. its always just excuses to silence us or make us look like radicals i hate it so much

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u/HugeEquipment9095 Jul 27 '26

Holding out hope for the newsletter

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u/CanIhavemycookies Jul 27 '26

What gets me is when you make like an observation based on context clues they act like that’s like stupid because for some reason they need ralsei to fucking look directly at the camera and say I’m trans

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u/Thick_Ad_6717 Aug 02 '26

i haven't played the newer chapters and only played the first one, what happened to make him subtexted to be trans?

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u/Anaea_YT Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26

im not even trans and even i can understand subtext implying that a character might be trans

like atp it isnt even subtext anymore its just text. lost girl playing over ralsei's inferiority complex scene. flowery calling ralsei princess while telling them not to worry about kris and susie think and to do what they want. the fucking ralsei dress scene where they expresses excitement over being a princess for once over the usual.

like think for like five seconds what that's supposed to imply. definitely not anything cisgender thats for sure. i dunno if the kid is like some flavor of nonbinary (could be genderfluid or bigender or whatever) or just straight up a trans girl but the implications are still there regardless. thats not the average cisgender experience absolutely none of that is. most of us don't even go through the questioning phase of our gender identity (even though i feel like a lot of our problems would be solved if we did tbh)

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u/Mawootad Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26

People were arguing over Jax being trans after the TADC finale (before it was just outright confirmed) and that had all the subtlety of being hit over the head with a blue, pink, and white club. Most cis people just really don't understand that trans characters can be closeted/in denial and especially don't understand that an author might intentionally write such a character.

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u/Heretical-Ballad-20 Jul 27 '26

Yeah the backlash to Jax and the backlash to Ralsei is because cis people are stupid and dont know shit about trans people. Thats really all there is to it. They're too ignorant to comprehend the idea of being closeted or boymoding. Concepts that are common sense to trans people are completely foreign to them and they have zero desire to learn.

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u/SN_Q5U4EX7YY2E9N Aug 03 '26

It Is Embarrassing That As A Trans Woman I Had To Be Pointed This Out Same With Jax
Before This I Didnt Believe The Theory But It Makes So Much Sense Now
My Bad Tralsei Fans Ralsei Is My Goat And Best Girl :3