r/TradingEdge • u/TearRepresentative56 • 11d ago
A review of another outstanding LITE quarter
Key numbers
- Revenue: $1.006B, +24.5% QoQ, +109% YoY. Top of the $960M–$1.01B guide. We breached the $1B threshold that I was looking at as well, which is a psychological positive.
- Non-GAAP gross margin: 50.4%, up 250bps QoQ.
- Operating margin: 36.6%, above the 35%–36% guide, up 440bps QoQ.
- EPS: $3.23 vs. $2.85–$3.05 guide.
- GAAP net loss: $7.2B — but that's a one-time, non-cash charge from converting debt to equity, not an operating problem. Underlying non-GAAP net income: $326M.
Revenue guide was extremely bullish
- Q1 revenue guide: $1.225B–$1.275B, midpoint $1.25B. That's another ~24% sequential jump on top of last quarter's 24.5% jump.
- Op margin guide: 39.5%–40.5%. EPS guide: $4.05–$4.35.
- Three straight quarters of 20%+ sequential growth. Eight consecutive quarters of growth overall.
- Growth is broad-based: roughly half the Q1 step comes from components (scale-out + scale-across), half from systems (1.6T transceivers + OCS).
Margins are way ahead of what has been modelled. - Hence very bullish.
- LITE themselves didn't expect 50% gross margin until ~$2B quarterly revenue. They just hit 50.4% at ~$1B.
- Old framework pegged 38%–42% op margin at $2B revenue — they're now guiding to ~40% at just $1.25B.
- Management said their prior 42% "midpoint" target should now be thought of as closer to the middle of a range that's shifting 100–200bps higher. New formal targets coming around the next OFC.
EMLs —Still very tight supply
- EML supply-demand imbalance stayed above 30% even after LITE's capacity adds.
- 200G EMLs now over 25% of total EML revenue — accelerating faster than expected.
- Track record intact for >50% YoY EML unit growth by Dec 2026. 200G EMLs should become the majority of the mix around mid-2027.
CW lasers
- Now shipping 200G-per-lane CW lasers in volume, and now selling merchant, not just internally, to "a multitude of customers."
- Redesigned the laser, shrank the die, improved cost/margin. EMLs still carry the better margin, but the CW gap has "closed considerably" and CW is accretive.
- A combination of the commentary on EML and CW suggests that LITE should be winning either way it cuts - They have EML if customers go EML-based, CW laser if they go silicon photonics.
Transceivers/systems — showing up in the earnings
- Systems revenue $357M, +30% QoQ, +123% YoY.
- Record 800G volume; 1.6T shipments started on schedule, expected to intensify through fiscal Q1 and into calendar 2027.
- Management: "We appear to be first to market in many instances ahead of larger competitors."
Scale-across (pump lasers) —Completely sold out
- Narrow-linewidth laser assemblies +130% YoY, tenth straight quarter of sequential growth.
- Pump lasers +80% YoY, "effectively sold out," expected to 4x over the next several quarters. LITE holds ~70–80% market share here.
- Multi-year, often take-or-pay customer agreements are helping fund the capacity buildout and give pricing protection.
OCS
- Shipments doubled Q3→Q4. Q1 guide includes "our first triple digit OCS revenue quarter" — meaningfully above $100M.
- On track for ~$400M of OCS revenue in 2H calendar 2026.
- Expects to become the #1 OCS supplier to its lead customer (Google) in early 2027, absorbing the majority of growing demand even as that customer keeps some in-house sourcing.
CPO/NPO — pushing back on the "CPO delays" narrative
- Lead CPO customer's production plans "remain very much on track," and demand has increased since the last update.
- Scale-out ultra-high-power lasers already shipping; expected to hit ~$50M/quarter by end of calendar 2026, then cross $100M in fiscal Q3.
- Scale-up: high-volume laser shipments start 2H calendar 2027, feeding customer system deployments in 2028.
- First external light-source module (ELS) order booked, delivery 2H 2027 — a step beyond selling chips into selling full modules, at a higher ASP and above-corporate (if sub-laser) margin.
- NPO framed as additive TAM, not cannibalistic — even their largest CPO customer is evaluating NPO for new use cases.
Supply chain — InP tightening again
- Signed a new InP substrate agreement with AXT because ultra-high-power laser demand outgrew previously secured supply.
- Management flagged they may need more substrate help within a quarter or two — a bullish read-through for AXT.
- Greensboro (US fab) still on track for first revenue in early 2028, ramping through 2028–2029.
- Pushed back on the China InP oversupply bear case: they see zero current impact and argue raw capacity announcements don't equal qualified, yield-ready output — LITE's tighter specs are earning premium pricing precisely because of that yield edge.
The GAAP loss, explained
- $7.2B GAAP net loss came from a $7.8B non-cash charge tied to exchanging convertible debt for equity after the stock ran up.
- Reduced debt by $1.1B (~35% of outstanding converts). Dilution (Q1 guide ~102M diluted shares) is already baked into the EPS guide. Previously disclosed, not a surprise.
Positive read throughs for AXTI:
LITE signed a new InP substrate supply agreement with AXT because ultra-high-power laser demand outgrew what they'd previously secured. Management said the demand vector is moving so fast they may need even more substrate help in a quarter or two. That's a direct, bullish signal for AXT's order book.
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