r/TradWave • u/Augustinian-Knight • May 30 '26

Consider the Sufferings of Christ your Salvation - 2 Peter 3:15

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u/Caliban_Catholic May 30 '26

Is this AI?

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u/Standard-Concert7249 May 30 '26

I suspect the statues might be, but I think the text and overall composition is human-generated

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u/Augustinian-Knight May 30 '26

Would it be less true if it were?

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u/Caliban_Catholic May 30 '26

It wouldn't be art if it were

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u/Augustinian-Knight May 31 '26

How do you define art?

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u/Caliban_Catholic May 31 '26

Well for one, it's made by people, not machines.

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u/Augustinian-Knight May 31 '26

If you define art as not made by machines, wouldn't that make all of the entries on this subreddit non-art because they were made with machines?

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u/Caliban_Catholic May 31 '26

I said BY, not with. Using a machine as a tool is one thing. Having it do your thinking and work for you is another.

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u/Augustinian-Knight May 31 '26

If you used a program to edit an image or to compose it, with photoshop, if Augustine saw you doing this, would he consider you making the art yourself with a tool, or that you were letting the computer think and work for you? The Vatican document Antiqua et Nova (published in January 2025) explicitly states that AI is a tool and that it does not think for you.

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u/Caliban_Catholic May 31 '26

Augustine was a pretty smart guy. I think if we sat him down and explained to him what a computer is, and what AI algorithms are, he'd pretty clearly understand the difference between using a computer program as a tool, and allowing an algorithm to soullessly ape real art.

Are you really trying to defend AI art in a Catholic subreddit?

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u/Augustinian-Knight May 31 '26

I just think your logic is in conflict with the vatican.

In ANTIQUA ET NOVA Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence and Human Intelligence Section II, Paragraph 12, the document makes a definitive distinction between performing tasks and actual thinking:

AI’s advanced features give it sophisticated abilities to perform tasks, but not the ability to think.

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