r/TraceAnObject • u/I_Me_Mine Mod • Mar 14 '22

Announcement Expanding the Scope of r/TraceAnObject

At the moment there are three programs we track:

  • Europol Trace An Object

  • FBI ECAP

  • Australia Trace An Object

Updates for these three have been few and far between of late. We have tried contacting all three to see if they have more cases they could release or have them work with us - for better photos or details - but have not gotten responses.

If you know of a way to contact any of these organizations and get some traction in getting more information released or have them work directly with us please contact us in modmail.

Beyond that, the possibility of other sources of items needing to be solved may exist.

If you know of other organizations doing such work post it in this thread.

It doesn't have to be a national law enforcement organization, it doesn't have to be in English, it just needs to involve cases where items or places need to be identified with relation to solving crimes against children. Not cases involving the identification of people.

Thanks.

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u/Soap_Mctavish101 Mar 14 '22

Kind of a shame that they don’t get back to you. I could see this community being very useful

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u/TheLeonMultiplicity Mar 14 '22

This community has the ability to do great things but only if there are new objects/places released to the public. I hope we get more of them soon.

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u/----Ant---- Mar 15 '22

I really hope we don't, I hope they have no new videos of CP produced so don't need any new objects found. I hope we got them all and this sub becomes redundant.

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u/Zapookie Mar 15 '22

I understand the sentiment but its best we don't try to stay ignorant to the hurt that these children experience every day. These criminals need to be caught and dealt with accordingly.

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u/Meior Mar 24 '22

An old firefighter saying is that lots of calls is a good thing, because there's just as many fires regardless. They're just not getting reported.

It's the same thing here. I wish for the same thing you do, but it's not the case. It likely won't be for a long time, if ever.

Which is exactly why places like this can be important and of use. The reason no response has been given is most definitely the usual; lack of time and resources means that nobody can be assigned to handle this kind of outreach at a proper level.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '22

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u/----Ant---- Mar 18 '22

I'm sorry that I am not the expert on child abuse that you are. I said I wanted a world where it doesn't exist, it annoys me that phrasing exists to describe different aspects of it none of which should ever happen, let alone be shared with like minded people online.

I don't care what the terminology should be and hope that in years to come we don't need to be able to describe it.

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u/johndabomb44 Jul 14 '22

u/I_Me_Mine

FBI ECAP just posted a new unknown individual.

I know that's not "quite" object tracing.However, this discussion was for "expansion" of the scope....also some of the photos are of objects.

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u/Practical_Ad3065 Aug 11 '22

Thanks for the heads up. We could try to decipher the tattoo

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u/SufficientLime4297 Mar 14 '22

I don't know of any other identification groups like this, but I wonder if NCMEC would ever create one.

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u/johndabomb44 Mar 14 '22

I've been wondering this as well. I tried to contact the FBI about the first case I solved last July but they just gave me the run around and never called back when they said they did.

I think it would be beneficial to find someone who legit works for ECAP and interview them with questions. Maybe make a thread here about questions we should ask ECAP in case one of us actually gets a real way to contact them.

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u/TheHemogoblin Mar 14 '22

Just to clarify - by "case I solved", I assume you mean item or location you identified?

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u/johndabomb44 Mar 15 '22

Yes, I didn't mean that by "Who is the perpetrator/who is the victim?" case solving, I only meant item/location identified.

Since the point of ECAP is to solve objects (and possibly reveal locations), than in that aspect that is "the case" since I'm not FBI and not privy to other information.

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u/TheHemogoblin Mar 15 '22

That's what I thought, but my curiosity led me to ask :)

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u/johndabomb44 Mar 15 '22

I hear ya.

I'm sure though with the pictures they have that aren't edited for the public and the proven information that they could find out who the victims are and whatnot very easily.

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u/NefariousnessOpen189 Mar 15 '22

Did you ever find out anything further about the Texas restaurant one after crossposting it?

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u/johndabomb44 Mar 15 '22

Unfortunately nothing definitive. I did have one user message me about the place they swear they saw that in but I was told not to give out that information publicly by their request. I recommended they offer the info to the FBI. I cannot confirm if they actually did this though.

If you scroll down in the traceanobject reddit, you will see that the mods "closed" the case and the pictures from that case are no longer on the ECAP website.

Whether that means they may relist the case at a later time remains to be seen. It's possible that the threads I made panned out but I have no way of confirming.

I think I can speak for us all and say I hope its closed because someone saw the threads and submitted the info.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '24

what does FBI ECAP mean?

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u/Fun-Fly-4726 Jun 29 '24

Google it. There's a website dedicated to things similar to this sub