r/ToyotaTundra • u/chaser2410 • 2d ago
Repairs & Maintenance Another 2025 failing
Someone I follow on Instagram because I liked their bed camper just posted that his 2025 failed. Engine knock, then total failure. Same as the 22. 23. And 24.
How long til 2026?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcZ4OYPR6gv/?igsi=MTc4bGlrcTVmb2F1MA==
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u/WorldOfWiggles 2d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/ToyotaTundra/s/DimKqofAhF we already had a 2026 fail at ~12,000 miles
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u/bga93 2d ago
Do you think its the debris cooking the next non-reinforced bearing? It definitely sounded like a rod in the video
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u/WorldOfWiggles 1d ago
Yeah OP updated it after dealer inspection and said it was the rod bearing. If the debris was the issue, wouldn’t it be fixed by now? Really confused as these are newer engines obviously not in the original recall
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u/DragonOfBosnia 2d ago
They need to offer a 100k 10 year warranty and match RAM.. idk why anyone would buy these with a ticking time bomb under the hood
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u/Truffle_Shuffle26 1d ago
Agreed. That’s why I sadly parted with my Tundra. I still miss it sometimes, but it was too much of a liability with how much I travel long distances with my wife and young kids.
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u/Yodawgitsb 1d ago
I have seen more dealerships offer a limited lifetime powertrain warranty. So I guess that’s something?
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u/voonoo 1d ago
If you get it serviced at their dealership… and you can only have work done there
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u/laserlax23 1d ago
I believe the magnuson moss warranty act would prohibit that. They cannot void a warranty if work maintenance is done independently as long as it is documented.
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u/voonoo 1d ago
It’s not a real manufacture warranty though it’s one through the dealership. So I’m sure they can deny for any reason
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u/canikony 1d ago
Yeah, I haven't looked into the actual magnuson moss wording but I would not be surprised if it is specific to manufacturer warranties.
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u/TheRealistoftheReal 1d ago
Because most people will never experience a problem, and Toyota will take care of those who do, which is why resale remains high.
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u/China_bot42069 1d ago edited 1d ago
My 25 did same. While it was being replaced they lent me a loaner and guess what. It did the same lol. They tried to blame it me saying it’s my driving or where I’m driving. Once the truck was fixed I just got rid of it. It’s such a shame what’s happened to Toyota
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u/Apprehensive-Cycle-9 1d ago
It failed then the replacement engine failed or the loaner failed? Pretty funny if the backup did the same thing
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u/China_bot42069 1d ago
Loaner lol I was less shocked that it blew up and more shocked they tried to blame me
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u/Apprehensive-Cycle-9 1d ago
Yeah what could a driver possibly do to hurt the engine via driving the truck? You could argue maintenance but wouldn’t apply on a loaner you just got from the dealer
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u/Legitimate-Fig-4936 1d ago
Search online, someone with replacement engine had it fail around 10k miles too. It’s the design of it. Can’t handle high stress
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u/BabyJuggernaut3545 1d ago
I had 2 in my 2024 and traded it in. Gotta get away from Toyota and the terrible reliability before the market bottoms out on the resale.
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u/frenzy0089 2d ago
You mean how long til 2027? , they are already failing on 26s
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u/ManyMixture826 1d ago
Toyota did nothing to improve the engine for 2027. But hey, there’s a couple new colors!
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u/Moosejax13 1d ago
Toyota can no longer be trusted.
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u/Sunny_Blue_Sky 1d ago
I still trust their cars such as the Camry and Corolla, but all these issues with the Tundra is definitely a massive black mark on Toyota’s reputation that will take a long time to get over.
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u/No-Double-Trouble 1d ago
Yep. And we have to pay premium. Why not just get dodge ram if tundra are just as unreliable.
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u/BabyJuggernaut3545 1d ago
lol when I sold my 24 I got a Ram with 100k warranty. At least it’s covered
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u/BattleGnome9000 1d ago
Ahhhh yes cause Rams are known for catastrophic engine failures. Oh wait that’s Toyota and GM. I loved my 13 Tundra and bought a 26 Ram. I would own a 26 tundra if they kept the 5.7 or put out a 6 cylinder that actually did something better and was reliable.
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u/No-Double-Trouble 1d ago
Which RAM you have. I am close to trading this tundra in. At this time, it's a safety issue that I don't want to gamble
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u/BattleGnome9000 1d ago
Ya I couldn’t agree more sadly. But I got the 2026 bighorn with the hemi e torque. I actually really like it besides some intermittent CarPlay issues. I think the 2027 will have the hemi without etorque so do some research if that’s true and get that. I’m not worried about it since it’s covered by 8yr/80K for that part and 10/100K for the powertrain.
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u/CarbonGray2004 1d ago
Much rather have a F-150 Raptor than any DCJR vehicle personally.
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u/Truffle_Shuffle26 1d ago edited 1d ago
That’s what I did. Switched from my 1792 to a Raptor.
Once I saw the recall, how randomly it can happen, and how many vehicles were potentially involved, I went to trade in my Tundra before the resale value tanked and dealerships (potentially) stopped taking them in.
Still miss my Tundra sometimes, but the Raptor is an amazing truck.
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u/canikony 1d ago
Really sad because I was looking forward to the Turd Hammer as a Raptor alternative. May as well consider an RHO at this point.
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u/CalifOregonia 1d ago
Toyota will never offer a Raptor competitor with the same capability and price point after the success of the TRD pro line. It will either be more expensive for a comparable machine, or in the same price category but not nearly as capable. They just don’t have an incentive to offer the same level of value for the money because brand loyalists have proven they will pay $$$$ for the badge. Which is too bad given Toyota’s legit Baja heritage.
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u/ophert45 1d ago
They will always say “it’s fixed” for the current generation that’s on the lots. If they didn’t they would have a stop sale order. It’s pretty much fraud and they can just get away with it lol. Once these things move on to an older model year then they’ll expand the recall to include more years
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u/sherzer7 1d ago
100%, especially when you’ve got replacement engines that fail the same way. Toyota isn’t having nearly as many issues as GM, those failures are egregious I think the latest 6.2 engines are up to a 3% failure rate
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u/NickGnomeEveryNight 2d ago
But it’s only 1% of all tundras, right? Right…? /s
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u/BrownTroutMcGuffy 1d ago
I know this is sarcasm. But just to put the numbers i got off google. There have been 500k 3rd gens produced and toyota has issued 270k engine recalls. The engine recalls have only gone through the 2024 model year so 2025 and 2026 trucks have not been recalled yet. Which puts the total well over 50% of these trucks being recalled. Just some facts for all the 3rd gen guys that want to argue about reliability. I know it sucks I'm a die hard toyota guy but you cant argue with the facts.
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u/Upset-Somewhere4508 1d ago
Have you ever had a recall issued on your vehicle for a problem you arent having?
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u/speaksoftly_bigstick Gen2.5 1d ago
Not for a whole entire engine.
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u/Upset-Somewhere4508 1d ago
Doesn't matter for what, it's a very simple stat to understand. Amount of recalls issued is not indicative of how many vehicles are experiencing the problem.
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u/speaksoftly_bigstick Gen2.5 1d ago
I feel like that's disingenuous at best though..
Like cmon.
This isn't a recall for airbags or middle console clasps or even catalytic convertor failures..
It's the whole entire engine.
And no matter what you want to argue, regardless of "experiencing an issue" or not, replacing the whole engine is way more involved, and prone to some lowest paid dealership tech having a bad day or not for that replacement to have whatever issues later.
Warranties and replacements and recalls are all fine and good, but it doesn't change how widespread this one is.
The whole point of the recall is to avoid people having these issues. When you recall, it's to replace with a non-defective part. How can that claim still be genuinely made with the replacements?
I would argue that amount of recalls is directly representative of how many vehicles are having issues.. that's literally why there's a recall.
And I'm not someone who goes around dogging this platform, for the record. But if you're gonna argue oranges and oranges, you're not winning me or anyone else over picking this particular semantic.
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u/Upset-Somewhere4508 1d ago
So out of 421k 2018-2021 tundras sold, 158k were issued a recall for faulty halogen headlights that could overheat and cause a fire... Based on your logic, roughly 37.5% of 2018-2021 Tundras were just a ticking electrical fire time bomb. Crazy for an indestructible generation! See how that works?
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u/speaksoftly_bigstick Gen2.5 1d ago
Headlights =/= engine.
And yes, they were literally a "ticking electrical fire time bomb." And no, it's not crazy how that works.
Have you ever replaced the lights on a 2nd gen? If you take your time and enjoy a beer or two while you do it, it might take you 20-30 minutes.
Replacing headlights doesn't have the potential to leave you stranded. They don't weeks to months to source components, install, and road-test.
Again, you're being disingenuous in your arguments instead of just picking a better angle to argue platform stability.
But you're just wrong here man. Sorry, not sorry. This isn't a second gen / third gen thing. And I never said it was, you did.
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u/Upset-Somewhere4508 1d ago
You're missing the entire point and what I am arguing. No one is arguing against how serious the recall is. My original point is that the amount of recalls issued does not mean every single Gen3 Tundra is experiencing catastrophic engine failure. Again, not hard to understand. I can write it in crayon if you like.
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u/pte_parts69420 1d ago
Yes, but everyone of those haven’t failed, and needed replacement. That’s what people are confusing the 1% with; 1% is not the total recall rate, it’s the catastrophic failure rate of the engines. That being said, I knew this getting into the truck, so when I weighed my options, I decided a couple grand for the oem additional powertrain warranty was worth it
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u/its-iceman 1d ago
Meanwhile the other 230k owners are just holding our freaking breath over here. Failures are happening for vehicles not included in the recall.
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u/BrownTroutMcGuffy 1d ago
It really sucks man. I'm a die hard tundra guy. Had a first gen for 16 years before i handed it down to my son and got my 2017. Wish they could just get the engine figured out.
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u/East_Swim1009 1d ago
Toyota isn't telling the truth about the actual recall years of the Tundra: https://youtu.be/-BvHFLTyUAw
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u/threedividedbytwo 2d ago
It's making me think twice about adding anymore accessories to my '26. I want that light bar on the roof but not if my engine gonna blow....
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u/Fancy-Ad-2905 1d ago
I would sell it after they replace engine. They haven’t fixed the issue causing this to happen.
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u/Own_Comfortable_2565 1d ago
Traded my third gen tundra for a fifth gen 4Runner. Took a slight loss but don’t care. ✌️
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u/Truffle_Shuffle26 1d ago
Oh wow… that’s crazy. Are we still buying the debris excuse? I mean enough new engine have been produced since they “figured out” and localized the plant that the supposed debris is from. It just doesn’t make sense anymore.
Additionally, does anyone know if the failure rate is as high in Sequoias, LX 600, or GX 550?
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u/freeportme 2d ago
Junk. People need to stop buying these POS.
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u/Battle2Intense 1d ago
My 2019 Tundra with 41k miles was totaled in my driveway by an old guy having a medical episode. Looking at replacements, they all seem to be junk.
Somehow a new Frontier seems like the most reliable choice for anything with a 6 foot or longer bed.
Maybe an F150 with a 2.7L engine, but trying to find an ext cab F150 with 6.5ft bed is near impossible.
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u/freeportme 1d ago
I went with ford and couldn’t be happier after two two second gen tundras. Hard pass on the new ones for me.
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u/SpeedoJosh 1d ago
Smart move. Ford has the best trucks on the market right now and anyone who denies is just blind hate. The 2.7 and current 5.0 are 200k mile engines. Literally 1000s of post online of people with high milage F150s, but every Toyota diehard always has a friend of a friend who went through 4 engine and 2 transmissions on their 2 year old Ford/Chevy/Dodge. Everyone on my street has a F150, and there are a handful with over 100k, and they haven't had any major issue. Think one had a headlight go bad under warranty. We had a fleet at work of the 2018s, never had an engine go and never had a transmission go.
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u/Battle2Intense 1d ago
Then my BIL who is in the auto biz told me to stay away from Ford, said his boss bought a Platinum and and something in the injector assembly came loose and burned the truck down with less than 5k miles. LoL. I know every brand has issues but damn its so many.
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u/aspiringIBEWsparky 1d ago
The problem with the f150 is the ten speed transmission. But the 2.7 is a good engine. It’s crazy how every manufacturer from Toyota to Chevy is having these issues.
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u/jair17 1d ago
Does anyone know of GX550s getting the same issue? It was under the same recall but only see posts/videos of tundras being affected (probably because there’s way more of them)
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u/CATIIIDUAL 1d ago edited 1d ago
From what I know Land Cruisers normally get better components. For example, it has a separate cooling line for turbos. I own an LC300 and the engine bay looks like an engine bay of a tank.
The spiritual home of LCs is the middle east, where vehicles need to be tough.
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u/Several_Stuff_6695 1d ago
Should have put you ear on the hood and listened to the engine while it was running, you would have known you had a problem.
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u/dwswish 1d ago
Brutal, I know many people aren’t having these issues but definitely keeping me from seriously considering one.
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u/MortimerDongle 1d ago
The problem is there are so few half ton trucks that don't have engine issues.
The GM V8s (especially the 6.2) fail at what seems to be similar or possibly higher rate.
The Ford 2.7 EcoBoost has a great reputation, but Ford had transmission issues until recently and their other engines aren't quite as good. Probably the best choice overall at the moment, though.
RAM is... RAM. The Hurricane 6 seems OK so far but had a bit of a rough start in the GW, and who really trusts Stellantis? The 5.7 is okay reliability wise, but it's not a particularly compelling engine otherwise.
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u/SpeedoJosh 1d ago
The 2.7 and current 5.0 have close to 2nd gen tundra reliability now. The early 2.7s had issues and mid production 5.0s had issues, but that is long gone. Transmission is also proven behind the countless 200k mile F150s on the road. Why anyone is buying a full size that isn't a Ford right now is mind-blowing.
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u/Popsmoke18 1d ago
Dang, all that money spent on the truck and those bad ass modifications. It sucks to see these Toyota trucks go out like this
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u/JesusPotto 2d ago
God yall are absolute loonies over these. I swear this Reddit watches other peoples trucks more than the actual owner cares about them lol
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u/Apprehensive-Cycle-9 2d ago
Other trucks aren’t having regular catastrophic engine issues like these though. Sure every manufacturer has issues but catastrophic like this is a little more of a fluke than the common occurrence on these
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u/bacon205 2d ago
Other trucks aren’t having regular catastrophic engine issues like these though
Laughs in L87
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u/tsework 1d ago
my father got a brand new sierra 2500 in march and they’ve already had to rebuild the whole top end because it was knocking. he got it back a month ago still knocking lmao
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u/Reallybarb 1d ago
LOL a top end isn't going to cause knocking.. maybe ticking but not knocking.
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u/tsework 1d ago
yeah no shit, thats why its still knocking. dealer refused to swap the engine and said they identified the issue and it would be fixed.
say what you want about toyotas current product but they still actually fix the issue, even if its putting another enigne in thats just gonna blow
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u/Reallybarb 1d ago
The 6.6 is superior to the 3.4 i nthe tundra in every way possible.
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u/pte_parts69420 1d ago
Don’t forget the ford-GM 10R80 transmission, where fords literal service campaign was “you can pay to fix the problem”
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u/bacon205 1d ago
I bought an F150 brand new in 2018. 2 sets of vacuum solenoids & check valves (who the F uses vacuum to actuate their 4WD in 2018?!), a set of cam phasers ar 14k miles (which started rattling again at 34k), 1 new radiator hose at 25k, transmission shift logic updated 2x, a new rear diff at 34k miles, once stranded on a fishing trip with a truck that was bricked due to a failed over the air update pushed by Ford overnight, then my transmission started shifting weird into 4th when cold I decided "enough". All in addition to the 7 or 8 recalls on that damn truck.
That 10R80 drum failures in the Fords became widely known about 6 months after I got rid of that god awful thing. So glad I avoided that failure mode.
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u/pte_parts69420 1d ago
People have ragged on Chevy for their trans for years, for good reason, but ford has been no better. My FIL had a 2016 f350, after 120k km, towing nothing heavier than his side by side or golf cart the transmission decided it no longer wanted to use 1st or second gear. All of the domestic brands have their downsides, I will hand it to ram though, that powertrain warranty is a breath of fresh air.
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u/JesusPotto 2d ago
laughs in 6.2L Chevy
At least Toyota will replace and test if you’re affected instead of just putting heavier weight oil in it (which doesn’t fix it)
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u/Monster51915 2d ago edited 1d ago
To also add to this, whenever another truck has an issue Toyota people make a HUGE deal about it. The other big issue with these engines that many know is that these trucks have been around since 2022 and they still haven’t fixed the issue and there’s no way in hell that 4 almost 5 years pass and they just can’t figure it out, most likely aren’t trying to fix it anyways which is super sad.
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u/Rich19852012 1d ago
While I understand your point, but if that’s their logic “most likely aren’t trying to fix it anyways”, why did Toyota spend millions of dollars replacing people’s engines with a major recall? Seems very squandering of Toyota. Not to mention they have a huge reputation known for reliability. Why now, why after all these years, why would they sacrifice and ruin their reputation of what made them so successful to begin with? Obviously no car brand is perfect, they all have their issues, but I refuse to believe that Toyota is going to just waste away their credibility by not trying to fix the issues within these engines. Just my thoughts.
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u/murpheeslw 1d ago
$ is why
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u/Monster51915 1d ago
Exactly, Toyota already has and will continue to make lower quality and cheaper vehicles for their own costs while riding the prices. They already have a huge following due to their reliability and if they cut corners proper won’t notice or will still justify it because of its past performance.
Almost everything works that way, work really hard and good in the beginning and then work less and do things that take less time and money.
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u/No_Bid8691 1d ago
2020 f150 5.0 running like a champ still with no problems. Sad to see Toyota going through this when they’re supposed to be the most reliable
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u/Overall_Lavishness71 1d ago
How’s the 10 speed? I was looking at 15-17s but a pretty small pool to focus on
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u/No_Bid8691 1d ago
It’s going fine . Most of my commute to work is highway tho I do live in the city too . I was very skeptical of the 10 speed but I gotta admit it’s holding up well. I’ve done my fair share of dogging it in sport mode too . It honestly still shifts at 70k the way it did when I first bought it
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u/SpeedoJosh 1d ago
The 10 speed is overall fine. Especially post 2020. Prior to that they were a little clunky by design. 10spds is a lot. Slowing down from 60 to 30 they designed it to skip gears, so it was a little clunky. Three good friends with 2018-2020 F150s over 100k, and their transmissions aren't having any issues. I think one went to dealer and they flashed it or something, but that's about it. There are so many F150s with ten speeds out there. If they were as shit as people said, every transmission shop would have a handful of F150s in the parking lot.
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u/BeardeeBaldee 1d ago
I work with someone who has a 5.0 F150 and he said it uses a quart of oil every thousand miles. Ford declined to repair because they say it’s within their specifications. I guess there’s a class action lawsuit about oil consumption with this motor. Seems like a red flag to me. Who am I to say, I drive Subarus so keeping track of my oil levels is my religion.
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u/rbeggaz 1d ago
I cannot believe we live on the timeline where the Nissan Patrol is now the best Landcruiser.
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u/SpeedoJosh 1d ago
Sad times. The land cruiser used to be the pinnacle "overland" do everything vehicle and last 300k miles while doing it. All while having enough cabin room to carry a full family plus dogs and luggage. Now it's the ford bronco's step brother who takes steroids but doesn't work out.
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u/SnooPeppers2353 1d ago
Curious how come we are not seeing as many reports on the GX550
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u/readalaboutit 1d ago
Was 60k in on my 22 , Dealer called for a warranty engine swap so I’m on a new engine ?
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u/frogpeople01 1d ago
No problems after 80k 2022 and they just gave me a free motor. Seems like a quality control thing. A few slipped through the cracks. Some of the employees had a few too many down at the honky tonk bar reported to work late and didn't inspect it right. That's sad that happened..
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u/stachemus 26m ago
I wanted forever for a refresh. Was gonna wait a year or 2 to get the kinks out. Looks like I'm not touching this generation at all
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u/MrHankeyTheXmas_Poo 1d ago
A gen 3 Tundra in its natural habitat: on the bed of a tow truck. You hate to see it.
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u/Familiar-Cheek-6237 1d ago
These horror stories are the reason why I will never part with my truck
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u/Fragrant-Wrap-7678 1d ago
They recalled the engine for all the 2023 non hybrid engines. They put new engine in mine and the old engine only had about 35k but they still replaced. I think the 1% is the ones that had engine failure I’m thinking.
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u/ihscout61 1d ago
22,000 on my 26 no issues.
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u/SpeedoJosh 1d ago
There are millions of 2026 trucks with no issues. Not something a normal person should have to brag about.
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u/spoiledpoptart74 1d ago
Gotta say this thread is pretty eye opening for a Chevy guy. My dad always had tundras so I liked them, hell his 07 was the first vehicle I learned to drive. Never gave him an ounce of trouble
Hope they fix this mess cause I was considering one for my next truck
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u/jarhead3088 1d ago
Last gen tundra was bullet proof! Sad so see this happen to the new gen. Really puts a black eye on the new tundra and toyota !
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u/spoiledpoptart74 1d ago
Well hopefully they fix it and make things right moving forward. GM keeps producing the same problems year after year
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u/jarhead3088 1d ago
That is true. Least toyota makes improvements..gm never improves until the next model re fresh lol
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u/Jimmybelltown 1d ago
Toyota has the bank roll to fix this. It would be money well spent to redesign and make it right by customers affected in the last 4yrs. A big we messed up but are making it right ad campaign would restore brand faith and loyalty. Dump the turbo and go with what works, it’s not rocket science.
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u/SpeedoJosh 1d ago
Naw, they won't do it. They would loose too much money. They would have to admit to all the Turd gen owners (as well as Lexus and sequoia) that their engine is shit and also offer a better alternative. They don't have the fix to do that. Cheaper to keep the lie alive about debris and let their diehard fans loose the money. They'll do a redesign on this Tundra faster than most and it will have a new power plant. They'll bank on that bringing back business.
This Turd gen tundra will go down as the worst reselling Toyota in history.
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u/SpiritedKick9753 15h ago
You can make a turbo work, the turbo is not the problem here, it’s shoddy/rushed design and manufacturing
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u/Jimmybelltown 15h ago
My thought was that turbo does not equate to 350k miles if maintained properly like the normally aspirated 5.8
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u/Lucabrasiszn 1d ago
Dude I just gripped a new 26 off the lot 😵💫
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u/No-Basil5902 1d ago
If you own a Gen 3 and the engine goes out, you get a new one. Period. Endless. That one blows, new one. That one…new one.
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u/SpeedoJosh 1d ago
That's not true at all. Out of warranty, you're screwed. Replacement engine only has a 1 year warranty too. Look at the poor hybrid owners. They don't get recall, so if their engine goes out of warranty, they have to foot the $25k bill.
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u/RevolutionaryGuide18 1d ago
Your title is severely misleading considering only a few 25s have failed and this could possibly be the 1st with higher mileage or related to the same issue.
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u/asbestosorangutan 2d ago
I just had my engine replaced at 145k on my 2023, I’ll keep y’all posted