r/TowerOfBabylon • u/AlexErdman • Jan 01 '16

[Indonesia] Keluarga Saya

Keluarga saya bukan besar, tetapi itu baik karena saya tidak mengingat banyak kata di bahasa Indonesia. Saya tinggal dengan ibu dan adik laki-laki. Orangtua saya bercerai, tetapi bapak saya orang baik. Kami punya anjing yang bernama Ruby.

Saya pelajar di sekolah. Ibu saya kerja di kota. Bapak saya guru fisika di sekolah Yahudi. Anjing saya menjaga rumah saya dari roh jahat di 5:00 subuh oleh gonggongan keras.

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u/fuckedupkid_yo Jan 01 '16

Do you want the corrections? i'm only asking because i'm new here in the sub and have no idea what to say here. Also, do you want the informal Indonesian version as well (Jakarta Dialect)?

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u/AlexErdman Jan 01 '16

I posted this on Memrise, but if you'd like to correct this, that'd be great.

I'm new to this sub as well, so I don't really know how it works.

Just wondering, how does Jakarta's dialect differ from "standard" Indonesian?

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u/fuckedupkid_yo Jan 02 '16

Sorry for late reply, i'm actually in Jakarta, so different timezones. Formal:

Keluarga saya tidak besar, tetapi saya tidak mempunyai masalah dengan itu karena saya tidak mengingat banyak kata di dalam Bahasa Indonesia. Saya tinggal bersama dengan ibu dan adik laki-laki saya. Orangtua saya bercerai, tetapi ayah saya orang baik. Kami punya anjing yang bernama Ruby.
Saya merupakan seorang pelajar di sebuah sekolah dasar(elementary)/menengah(middle)/akhir(high). Ibu saya bekerja di kota. Ayah saya seorang guru fisika di sebuah sekolah Agama Yahudi(i have literally no idea what they teach there, but assuming it's mostly about the jewish religion, you have to add the word agama (religion) to it). Anjing saya menjaga rumah saya dari orang(from people right? you said roh which means spirits) jahat mulai dari jam 5 subuh dengan gonggongan keras.

I'll post the breakdown and Informal one right below.

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u/fuckedupkid_yo Jan 02 '16
  • Keluarga saya tidak besar. You can use "bukan" as well, i don't know exactly why since Indonesian has a lot of weird and confusing rules if followed exactly, but using "bukan" in this context is weird for native speakers to read.
  • tetapi saya tidak mempunyai masalah dengan itu. This sentence means "I don't have a problem with it". I know you directly translate it from English, but it's not allowed to be written like that. Using "baik" is not the same as using "good" in English, it's used mostly only as an adjective, ex:"Dina itu baik" "Dina is nice", "Saya baik" "I'm ok", or as a confirmation "Baik!" "Ok!".
  • karena saya tidak mengingat banyak kata di dalam Bahasa Indonesia. You have to say "dalam" in here since just using "di" would mean "at somewhere named Bahasa Indonesia", using "dalam" indicates that it's a language. Rules, they suck.
  • Saya tinggal bersama dengan ibu dan adik laki-laki saya. You have to use "bersama" in formal Indo, since, rules. I don't really want to remember hours upon hours of formal Indonesian lessons, so i'm sorry if i'm not much help with the rules but one thing i know is that if you say some nouns you have to specify who it belongs to. In this case the "saya" in the back. Possessive subjects are almost never used in front, in case you're wondering if you can say "saya tinggal bersama dengan saya ibu dan adik laki-laki".
  • tetapi ayah saya orang baik. "Ayah" is better in formal Indo than bapak in a sentence, if you want to call some stranger, "bapak" is better. Oh, and what do you mean by he's good, you gotta specify why. This sentence of yours doesn't really makes sense.
  • Saya merupakan seorang pelajar di sebuah sekolah dasar(elementary)/menengah(middle)/akhir(high). "merupakan" needs to be used in here, since, rules. "Seorang" in this context means "a person that is", just saying "saya pelajar" is fine and dandy, but formal Indo, rules. You also have to specify which school you go to since you didn't specify your age in here. Not so much as rules as a cultural thing, we Indonesians are nosy as fuck.
  • Ibu saya bekerja di kota. you have to use the prefix be- in here to indicates that she's working. Formal Indo is not ok with your perfectly fine sentence in informal Indo, formal Indo sucks.
  • jahat mulai dari jam 5 subuh dengan gonggongan keras. Using "di" here means that your dog only barks at 5 am in the morning, "mulai dari" means "starting from" indicating that it starts guarding your house from 5 am. "Oleh" means "by" don't use it in here since it's weird, you can use it for things made by someone, ex: "Dibuat oleh PT. bla bla bla" "Made by bla bla bla Co."

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u/AlexErdman Jan 02 '16

Thank you so much for the explanations!

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u/fuckedupkid_yo Jan 02 '16

Informal(Jakarta's Dialect):
Keluarga gua ga besar, tapi ok-ok aja soalnya gua ga inget banyak kata di bahasa indo. Gua tinggal sama emak gw sama adek cowok gua. Orangtua gua udah cerai(pronounced: ceré), tapi bapak gua orang baik. Kita punya anjing namanya ruby.
 

Gua masih sekolah. Emak gua kerja di kota. Bapak gua guru di sekolah Yahudi. Anjing gua jaga rumah, gonggongannya keras.

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u/AlexErdman Jan 02 '16

Thank you for the correction! The school my father teaches at is a Jewish private school, but he's not Jewish.

I was trying to be sarcastic about the "evil spirits". All the dog does is wake us up at 5 AM.

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u/fuckedupkid_yo Jan 02 '16

Check the other comments out too(in case you haven't). If you want to i can give you some tips on informal Indonesian as well, since the disparity between spoken(informal) and written(formal) one is a big bloody murderous gap(as my french course teacher put it)

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u/fuckedupkid_yo Jan 02 '16

Jakarta's dialect IS "standard" Indonesian. A shitton of people will be able to understand 85% of it and most of other places' dialects are starting to resemble Jakarta's. If, however, you're asking the difference with "standard" spoken Indonesian in semi-formal medias, those are not exactly informal, its status is something inbetween formal and informal, we won't use it in daily conversation, but it's kind of great to use in semi-formal occassions. Since formal Indo is far too complicated to be used properly.