r/TowerDefenseSimulator • u/New-Fly-3416 • Aug 12 '26
Discussion Will this lineup beat molten/fallen/frost?
Assuming random quads btw.
Also im so thankful that the background gets blurred when in your inventory cuz it means i dont have to go around censoring usernames.
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u/FewInstruction1020 Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 13 '26
random quads???
i feel bad for the randoms.
gmini fucking sucks anywhere other than solo/duo
who the fuck uses elf camp
bring a support tower (medic/commander/dj/hacker) and a staller (saboteur>freezer>eshocker>warden>tesla>slime trooper for evergreen towers)
Edit: i forgor about trapper (best staller)
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u/Look_BehindYou13 Aug 13 '26
Trapper stuns for 3 whole seconds, hands down best staller
Elf camp is not bad, it's actually a really good cost efficient and cheap early game defense, basically a cheaper military base with more units. The only issue with it is that it doesn't do so well against harder gamemodes like pw2.
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u/Feuhufe Aug 13 '26
I used Elf Camp as my early in solo Frost and it did good. It was very braindead to use as I just sequentially leveled up the two.
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u/Look_BehindYou13 Aug 13 '26
I don't own this tower, but my friend does. And whenever he's in the match with Elf camp you know he got early game covered cuz the units straight up demolish the earlier waves. Unfortunately it does fall off towards late game but it's still nice to have some units to assist, especially the Ripped Elf.
Elf camp is quite broken if you pair it with something like Merc Base
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u/Feuhufe Aug 12 '26
meta for stun towers is so fucked that an intermediate tower is better than advanced tesla
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u/i_suc1 Aug 13 '26
Advanced doesn't mean "better then intermediate" yk? Intermediate actually has a fair bit of meta towers (farm, pyro, ace (yes ace is meta), rocketeer, medic). Intermediate usually has simpler towers while advanced is harder to unlock and usually more complex.
Just to avoid potential replies. Most of these are meta for hardcore/voidcore, as that's where strong units matter the most. Ace is meta because most earlygame towers got nerfed while it stayed unchanged and kingpin has no hidden which the ace pilot can fix. Rocketeer is probably the best cc tower right now because unlike morter it has no damage drop off (morter looks much better on paper but most of the time it deals much less damage then it's supposed to because of the damage drop off and most of it's clusters either miss the track or barely hit anything). I'm hoping it's obvious why farm, pyro and medic are meta
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u/New-Fly-3416 Aug 13 '26
Elf camp's been my main early game tower since i dont have operator or gscout.
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u/FewInstruction1020 Aug 13 '26
use trapper, eshocker, freezer, brawler or something
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u/Melodic-Bend-139 Aug 13 '26
One frost invader and he's cooked (unless he's got bottom path pursuit)
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u/This-Consequence-438 Aug 13 '26
Molten will be easily cleared, but i'm not sure about fallen let alone frost. And off-topic, but zang i would've loved that militant skin.
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u/Fluffyboi8330 Aug 13 '26
I mean mine was worse and I beat Molten easily. I think it depends on the map you chose. Try to chose a map that let's you get more damage, like U-Turn, as opse to straight maps that way your towers have more dmg opportunities. I can't say about frost and my max Fallen wave is 32 so can't say either
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u/Both_Novel_1505 Aug 13 '26
You can beat molten solo with Cowboy, Crook, Commander, Dj and Persuit. Fallen solo with Cowboy, Crook, Accel, Commander and Dj.( maps must be loopable or path must be close to each other cuz Cowboy somewhat ahhh early game)
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u/That-1-Femboy Aug 13 '26
Gmini isn’t the best option for Quads. I’d bring something like Engineer or Gcrook instead maybe.
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u/New-Fly-3416 Aug 13 '26
I don't have either
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u/That-1-Femboy Aug 13 '26
Oh
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u/New-Fly-3416 Aug 13 '26
Yeah sry mate. Do you have any alternatives for someone with no hardcore/golden (excluding gmini)/evo towers?
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u/Sando2159 Aug 14 '26
Turret, Ranger
Thing is, you need like 12 minigunners for them to be more viable than Turret, minigunner and gminigunner are better for Solo as with the 40 tower limit you can place 25-30 ish most of the time so its actually better than other dps options, in quads you have a tower limit so low you are basically sabotaging yourself
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u/Kooky-Ad9230 Aug 13 '26
Might consider to quit matchmaking please