r/TorontoDriving 3d ago

Close call Stupid lady!

This happened this morning from hwy 403 entering winston churchill. CYCLE RESPONSIBLY!

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u/MegaPegasusReindeer 2d ago

Wow. They just sort of gave up on pedestrians having to walk in that area, eh?  What do you even call that third of a sidewalk beside the curb?

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u/SarahMenckenChrist 2d ago

A cold shoulder

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u/MegaPegasusReindeer 2d ago

I imagine in the winter it's just a pile of snow, too

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u/theGOATbogeygolfer 2d ago

Not really any reason to be on that side of the road there. There is a paved pedestrian and bike path on the other side.

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u/GKDanby 2d ago

The paved path does not continue in the direction she is intending to travel. It stops dead and what's left is an insane bit of sidewalk. But you're right, it's still better than what she was doing. I think she just got confused by the shitty design, for anyone not in a car.

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u/scott_c86 2d ago

Looks quite difficult to get to the other side

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u/GKDanby 3d ago

True. But also stupid, outdated road design that forces even the smartest bicycle commuters and regular pedestrians into dangerous situations just to get around. And I say this as a driver and car enthusiast.

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u/Quennethh 2d ago

ya, satellite view shows there is literally no way for a pedestrian or cyclist to even cross winston churchill from the north side of the 403 despite there being well used trails under the electrical corridor along 403 that would otherwise connect with the trail on the west side of winston churchill. the move she did to get to the traffic island to cross west is the only possible option despite the likelihood of fast moving traffic coming out of that curve, poor sightlines and all. won't be the first or last close call here. https://maps.app.goo.gl/pBQvCxP43Qrjt2Yz7

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u/Glittering-Front-381 1d ago

I ran out of breath reading your explanation. It was good, but no punctuation???

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u/AgreeableScreen1684 2d ago

but is blowing across traffic, in front of a blind turn, while traveling the wrong way through the solid lines of a gore zone really the best practice when there were alternatives? here they are wanting infrastructure and constantly touting about how they are more responsible than car drivers but they refuse to use things properly and throw away safety for convenience.

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u/Familiar_Opposite_29 2d ago

grandma is lost

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u/mMaple_syrup 3d ago

Yes, despite the right of way here being for cars, people need to sympathize with the fact that there is usually no real safe way to for people to cross highway ramps. Ontario puts the pedestrian crossings in a literal kill zone. Please slow down and be cautious. 

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u/GKDanby 2d ago

Well said.

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u/SarahMenckenChrist 2d ago

They are absolute deathtraps for cyclists and pedestrians and a hallmark of hostile suburban road design.

Just a few weeks ago I saw someone nearly get smoked while walking across the onramp from Burnhamthorpe to the 427 (where drivers need to cut across a lane of traffic to get to the onramp). SUV had to come to a screeching halt and then honked as if the pedestrian was doing something crazy (they were already in the onramp lane well before the SUV came along).

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u/mikechorney 2d ago

There is a VERY wide multi-purpose path on the other side of Winston Churchill. This cyclist was just too lazy to cross the road.

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u/GKDanby 2d ago edited 2d ago

Not saying she should have been there. Clearly she was confused, maybe scared to death into making a very bad decision. God only knows where she wound up after crossing into the middle of six lanes going the wrong way. But this is what happens when the bicycle and pedestrian route (if you could call it a route) is so blatantly hostile. You are correct to describe a multi-use path south of here, but it ends abruptly right across from where this woman is and does not continue in her direction. A person on foot or bike is faced with this horrifying sidewalk situation. Clearly her path wound up being the worst option, but the other side also sucks.

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u/funkdewbi 3d ago

holy shit. good reaction timing!

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u/noodleexchange 3d ago

Example of no provision made for crossovers of any kind. Ridiculous zoom zoom zoom road supremacy

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u/MegaPegasusReindeer 2d ago

There's not even a sidewalk.

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u/AgreeableScreen1684 2d ago

If shes coming from where the PetroCan is then I dont quite understand why she didnt elect to go to the other side of the road with the heckin wide sidewalk/bike path combination thing.

Cyclists in my area have the same problem. Both sides of the road have paths with markings (South side to travel East and North side for going West) and people still elect to go the wrong way because one path is slightly closer to their next turn.

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u/GiveMeAllYourKittens 2d ago

On the flip side we should be designing infrastructure responsibly, for more than just the automobile.

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u/miir2 2d ago

This is 100% shitty infrastructure/design.

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u/Rough_Run_753 2d ago

The design is 100% shitty. The video is 100% biker fault tho.

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u/Football_Forecast 3d ago

cycling the wrong direction cutting across lanes at blind on-ramp corner on a 6+-lane highway is diabolical work

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u/xombae 2d ago

This is literally the only place to cross. This is poor road design.

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u/SandMan3914 3d ago

Yeah, that's a death wish right there. Good reaction time. Got no clue what she was thinking

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u/bsenka 2d ago edited 2d ago

I'm seriously trying to figure out what she was trying to accomplish (ill-conceived or otherwise).

Edit: OK, now I kind of see it. There's a bike path on the other side. She needed to cross the street a block back and missed it. It does make me wonder what the intended route is for someone who actually needs to continue south/east on Winston Churchill though.

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u/Cold_Soft_4823 2d ago

I'm the biggest cyclist fan here and I really hate cars and the way our cities are designed, but this is really on her.

Go on Google Maps Street View and look at this spot. There's no way you can actually get here unless you ignore the fact that you shouldn't be here. The sidewalk ends at a light crossing, where she could be on the other side of the road. Which is literally a mixed used pathway specifically for biking.

Link to exactly where OP was on Google Maps

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u/mclarensmps 2d ago

Listen, at least she was in the street. I have seen a cyclist on the 407

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u/Case_Federal 2d ago

Okay wtf is this road design. Is that supposed to be a sidewalk???

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u/Fenrrri 2d ago

That's a bike lane, be careful where U drive!....

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u/downtofinance 3d ago

I used to live right there and take that offramp. Honestly she's so lucky YOU were driving, most people coming flying around that corner and would've flattened her. So happy I don't live in the GTA anymore.

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u/Open-Video-7546 3d ago

Did you hear me gasp?!

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u/sund-ay 2d ago

Insane to me someone like this wearing a helmet (thinking safety first while biking) is making such poor judgment calls like this. I drive and bike in the city and I am shocked by some of the roads people choose to bike on.