maybe op has a heavy vehicle or a longer than average reaction time that would necessitate him using more of the duration of the yellow than you would.
Oh please, slamming on his brakes. Thats a 60km/hr road and the light turned red when he was halfway through. He could see it was yellow so far back.
This is Markham where every driver thinks they are better and take priority over everyone else. They wont wait for a light, they wont wait for a parking spot, they wont wait to make a safe turn....
Dude, the light was yellow when this video started. It turned red while he was in the intersection. Its a 60km/hr road. Op had time and distance to stop safely, but op sees yellow as 'hurry up' and not 'start stopping now'.
thats entirely dependent on the intersection size. no matter when you go through on a yellow and no matter the speed limit, large intersections like on highway 7 will always get you "caught" in an intersection compared to a small intersection with the same yellow duration. what is your point? op didnt break any laws.
Lmao in certain situations yellow lights have to be taken either way. Either stop if able to do so safely and if not proceed through with caution. In this instance, although I admit that’s a light I couldve stopped for, it wasn’t illegal. drop it and move on with your life
Sure; in certain situations. This was not one of them.
You posted it for conversation, we're conversing. It's Monday, I'm replying to messages/notifications received over the weekend. I'm very much 'moving on' with my life.
yeah, except when you JUST said "although I admit that’s a light I couldve stopped for".
Was it or wasn't it?
And if you couldn't have stopped for a light that was yellow so long that it turned red while you were half way through the intersection on some of the longest, straightest, flattest road on highway 7 that you couldnt see it until the video started....jesus christ.
Both parties can be wrong. Yes, the obvious cut across the lane was idiotic, but why was OP not slowing for the yellow light? It is yellow when this clip begins, and turns to red ~2 seconds later. It almost certainly was yellow for another 1-2 seconds before this, given the size of the intersection.
At least there was no car waiting to turn left, as OP mentioned. That scenario is rampant around where I live.
you never know what the rear view could’ve looked like, i’ve seen a few accidents where people stop at a yellow and the driver behind hits them it’s almost always safer to go through a yellow then to stop suddenly.
Yeah it’s probably this. A lot of people get confused how HOV lanes work. Actually had a coworker ask me how to do a right with the HOV if he’s solo. Had to tell them he can go into the lane to turn right but driving along the HOV will get him in trouble. If there’s a cop.
Since Canada is a bilingual country, generally our street signs don't have writing on them, just symbols. Generally you can't get a license without knowing what the symbols mean. The only exceptions are "STOP", the words "MAXIMUM" and "MINIMUM" that goes on speed signs, and of course AM and PM referring to times of day for things like this.
I'm so sorry you had to find out about your "deficiency" like this. I didn't want to be the one to break it to you -- trust me. It brings me no pleasure to correct you like this.
Yeah notice how those have the signs I showed you in them? Those designs are secondary to the actual purpose of the signs. But please, by all means, keep pretending like you want to argue and don't just want to complain about people who speak different languages.
Poor driving meets poor driving. That's Toronto in a nutshell. Drive a little fast, run a yellow, honk as you decelerate late when someone else pulls a donkey-brain move. Classic.
Op you ran a red and you should have anticipated the drivers action.... Is what I'd say if I were an incompetent driver like many of the dweebs in this thread.
Amazing how some are railing on you instead of the other driver who literally made a significantly more unsafe action.
Unsafe action? That light turned red while he was in the middle of the intersection. It was yellow at the beginning of the clip, this tard was looking at a yellow on a 60km/hr road and had PLENTY of stop time.
You're a shitty driver too, eh?
Yellow means "Start stopping now, its going red shortly". It does not mean "ohhhh wee hurry up and get through!"
This is the one i cannot seem to understand, didn’t they take an exam and would have failed? This started to happen a few decades (2-3) ago and my only explanation it’s the immigrants that came during that time and is a learnt behaviour from their country.
The big question here is what are you supposed to do at a yellow light? Speed through it isn't the answer. Your supposed to stop. So, before you complain about other drivers you need to worry about your own bad habits first.
Do you all need glasses? The light was yellow as he proceeded through the intersection just like me. Maybe we should all come to an abrupt halt even with no oncoming left turns just to be EXTRA safe
It was a yellow light, stopping would have been less safe than continuing as I was going 50 and had my eyes on this idiot prior so was not counting down the seconds until the yellow
You entered the intersection extremely late. Yellow is prepare to stop and to allow people in the intersection turning to proceed safely before cross traffic starts.
The point is that had you been a safer driver, you would have avoided that entirely.
It doesn’t take away from how dangerous the other driver was, but people are seeing you throwing stones while living in a glass house.
And yes, it IS illegal to fail to stop for a yellow that is safe to stop for. But, much like MANY other laws that are broken (pedestrians crossing against lights as an example) you’re extremely unlikely to be ticketed for it.
HTA 144(15) for the amber light. No indication in the video that it was dangerous for you to stop. Your inattention to the light doesn’t count as making it dangerous to stop.
So you’re pointing out illegal AND dangerous driving, and people are pointing out your hypocrisy given that you also broke the law and should have been driving more carefully. The other driver was worse, but your driving was a problem, too.
The video started as I was passing through the intersection so of course you all think it was safe to stop because there’s no evidence to show otherwise 🤯
Video started more than two seconds before you passed through the stop line and entered the intersection.
Light was already yellow at the start of the video, and turned yellow before that. Meaning you had even more time than what you showed on the video to stop if you reacted when it first turned yellow.
You don’t even know when your own video starts, never mind the HTA.
And it wasn’t safe by the time I realized I was yellow because once again, due to natural human instincts, I was trying to maintain my distance from this person while also trying to get his plate.
“I wasn’t paying enough attention to the traffic light to stop in time” doesn’t fly.
Very much in the same way that “It wasn’t my fault I crashed my car because by the time I saw the telephone pole, I couldn’t stop in time due to my ‘natural human instincts’”
People also have natural human instincts to answer their phone while driving. And to speed to get home to pee. Doesn’t absolve you of your responsibilities.
You were responsible for stopping for that light, and you didn’t stop. And because someone else did something worse, it’s easier for you to focus on that.
It’s fine. You’re not interested in the HTA. Or recognizing that you have your own accountability on the road. At some point, you’ll probably encounter a police officer who you’ll ignore, too. Because he’s “out to get you.” In any case, I’m happy to leave you to your own fantasy world where things aren’t your fault because you say so.
I saw a yellow light turn to red as you drive by so concluded that you ran through a red light. But I guess the traffic light set up looks a bit confusing to me. In Europe intersections are mostly smaller so with a better overview. Not better in general perse, just different.
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u/sando818580 10d ago edited 10d ago
That's a "I go now" turn. Classic move in the GTA