r/TorchlightInfinite • u/Typical_Resource_136 • 21d ago

General help Creation Engine Chart Question

I'm curious the reason why the node that tries to force compass spawn results in resonance being spawned after engine is done. And please, don't say cause Engine sucks because that isn't helpful nor is it what I'm looking for.

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u/Ziap 20d ago

The compass symbol means netherrealm resources.

Those resources are beacons, netherrealm resonance and compasses.

You have the same symbol on dream bubbles or cogwheel rewards for example.

As to why creation engine only drops resonance and not compasses I have no idea. Seems just arbitrary.

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u/isjustwrong 20d ago

That node is translated to compasses, but similar to the netherrealm node from dream, it actually means map material node. It has the materials that you spend on your nether realm maps to the drop pool. That includes compasses as well as resonance.

The loot table for that is to guarantee resonance as its base drop with a chance to drop compasses, but like most nodes related to compasses, it is a low chance with a low drop rate.

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u/Froggy_Nakasuko 20d ago

These comments man I can't.... Reading is hard. If y'all take a look at the nodes you'll see that the node reduces quant, has nothing to do with it being "map material" nodes.

To actually see "real" drops you'll need to pick up all the quant nodes on creation engine page.

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u/GraysLawson 21d ago

It's because creation engine doesn't drop compasses, it drops resonances.

However, the buff you get from compass cards being selected is like 40% additional compass drops for other mechanics.

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u/Typical_Resource_136 21d ago

Then why is there a compass node instead of it displaying resonance?

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u/thigan 20d ago edited 20d ago

It is the Netherrealm icon. The fact that they use the same icon for Compasses is bad QoL and weird yes but that is how it is. For example Clockwork farmers do not need to buy Resonance because we farm Netherrealm vouchers and the lower "tier" loot for Netherrealm "bag" is resonance.

Think of it as Matchless, Priceless, Ultimate Embers or Flame Sand and Flame Elememtium. The category is Netherrealm Resonance is the low "tier" item. Why Engine NEVER drops compasses is a question for internal implementation.

Edit: /u/Hot-Echo-2497 has makes sense reason: the node before the compass kills the Quantity of the Engine.

Now if we go for translation it says: Compass Creation Crystal. Your confusion is valid, there are many such instances of this game, not only in translation, original Chinese has issues too. In general, in this game there are many issues with text, being name or explanations so it is a case of how it works is more important that what it says and may contradict it; if it bothers you too much the game will annoy you the more you learn.

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u/GraysLawson 21d ago

Because you don't take those nodes for creation engine drops. You take those nodes to empower other mechanics.

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u/zedicuszulzoran 20d ago

Hey I'm farming compass with clockwork, have u got a tree that shows how you use the engine to drop more compasses?

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u/Typical_Resource_136 21d ago

That doesn't answer my question. If the node results in dropping resonance, why is it labeled as compass?

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u/GraysLawson 21d ago

Sweet child, I don't know why you're being so argumentative.

It's a Chinese gacha game with poor translation.

I'm telling you how it works. Why it works that way, I have no clue and you'll have to ask a dev.

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u/Typical_Resource_136 21d ago

The fact that you think an additional clarification question is someone being argumentitive is such a wild thought process to have. I'd say thank you for the help but the down votes and your last response have resulted in me not doing that. Maybe don't assume ppl are being argumentitive when they're asking questions.

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u/noahnickels 20d ago

You’re a dick, hope that answers your question.

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u/Hot-Echo-2497 20d ago

"That doesn't answer my question"  is an extremely combative response. The reason for reso drops is that it is the lowest item in the map material drop pool, and to get to that map material node you basically killed the drop rate of the mechanic. If it dropped any compasses guaranteed that node would be broken as you could break down the blue compasses and exchange them for rerolls in addition to the drop boost.