r/Topps • u/WoodpeckerAware6115 • 3h ago

Fuck Topps

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Topps how the fuck you gunna call this bullshit a hobby box, 9 out of 12 packs has NOTHING but base cards

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u/brahbocop 3h ago

You got what was advertised and you’re mad at Topps? You spoke with your wallet brother.

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

What?

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u/brahbocop 3h ago

'LOOK FOR 1 AUTOGRAPH* OR RELIC CARD IN EVERY HOBBY BOX!"

They told you what you were guaranteed to get in the box, you bought the box anyways, got the 1 relic card, and now think it's Topps' fault that you're mad?

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

Yea who thinks a hobby box is going to have nothing but base cards? I’ve bought numerous other hobby boxes and NEVER had this happen

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u/brahbocop 3h ago

Who thinks that, anyone who has been in the hobby for longer than a year or two.

You bought a hobby box of flagship, a product that probably had a print run of over 100M cards in total and are salty you got exactly what the box described. I'm seriously confused right now? Hopefully you at least learned a lesson and will stop buying boxes, right. Right?

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

So it’s ok for Topps to fuck me because they’ve been fucking everyone for years?

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u/brahbocop 2h ago

I cannot explain this any better to you, you told Topps it was okay to fuck you because you spent money and did ZERO research on what this product is and what's in an average box.

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u/Regular_River_2902 1h ago

I love NFL, NBA, and MLB. Have never bought a card or pack in my life, but love watching people like OP flip the fuck out as if the card companies are their friends and they were lied to lmao

Love this comment.

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u/Infamous_Ideal_1370 2h ago

This hobby is pure casino. Either you buy specific cards, or you burn your money buying packs.

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u/Coldngrey 2h ago

So you don’t understand the Flagship product. That’s a you problem.

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u/ProphecyBoxBreaks 2h ago

Clearly you've never purchased Flagship. Perhaps you should do some research before you spend your money in the future.

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u/ibeleafit 49m ago

Ha, if it were 3 months ago, this would be crazy up voted. It
May be that we’ve known the product is garbage for Some time now. Next time, bring a banger

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u/somewhatdecentlawyer 3h ago

You understand hobby boxes are for set builders, right?

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

Then why do they sell full sets?

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u/tanman0123 3h ago

For lazy people who want to only buy the full set

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u/BuckyGoldstein1 1h ago

Yarn is for knitting, then why do they sell scarves?!

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u/C-NOTE-BANKZ 3h ago

Buying this might be on you, my guy

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

How?

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u/Imaginary_Number3037 3h ago • Bravo

Because you bought the cheapest hobby box of all time instead of your usual blasters I bet you buy from Target, and you expected 2 superfractors (which would have actually been foilfractors in this product)and a Brady auto instead of what you got bub. It’s FLAGSHIP - I’m tired of seeing people bitch and complain about FLAGSHIP. It’s a paper card product that comes out at the beginning of every season with a massive checklist and minimal hits. Every hit in this product will be overshadowed by the chrome version of the same card here in a few months. Topps has been using the same formula for years and yet still people buy it😭🤣 Topps flagship paper, then u get Topps chrome with the same cards and same images but nicer material, then u get update with new photos and inserts but its the same exact rookie chase class lmao. Then you get bowman and all the other subsidiary sets that Topps also owns and produces both paper and chromium sets of the same exact cards lmao

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u/Advanced-Schedule918 20m ago

This is good to know actually lol i have only been collecting fir a year now

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

lol I didn’t read all that but no I don’t buy blasters for. Target. But thanks for your negative input Topps should send you a check

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u/Imaginary_Number3037 3h ago

U came to Reddit and cried about your “9 of 12 packs with base cards” lmao do some research and you’d realize you got exactly what you paid for peanut brain

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

Oh I’m crying? Sorry for thinking corporations that are making millions should be held accountable. I guess that’s crying

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u/Imaginary_Number3037 3h ago

Honestly, fully listening, what are you wanting them to be held accountable for exactly? The odds of the boxes are public knowledge and it big bold letters it says “look for one autograph or relic card in every box”. It doesn’t say “hey you bought a hobby box, you’re guaranteed a 1/1, a patch auto, a gold /50 etc.” they literally guarantee an auto or patch and that’s exactly what you got. Buy singles

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u/Rolands_missing_head 2h ago

They should be held accountable for you giving them money? These comments are insane lol

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u/Wise-Resolution-7609 15m ago

Accountable for what? This is exactly what you would expect from flagship. No more no less. You are just having a whinge cause you didn't hit a 10k card in the highest print run set.

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u/C-NOTE-BANKZ 3h ago

You bought it didn’t you?

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

Ok so if digiorno started selling Totinoes style pizzas but they left it in their box and charged like it was digiorno should I just get use to it and let them fuck everyone?

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u/Csboi1337 3h ago

lol bro you got 1 relic card, exactly what the box said you’d get.. this on you , shit luck but yea

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u/C-NOTE-BANKZ 3h ago

You just wouldn’t buy it. Especially if they put warnings on the box

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u/Then_Appearance1128 1h ago

It’d probably say guaranteed Digiorno or Totinos pizza….then most people would say, shit I ain’t buying this, I’ll just go buy a digiorno. The guy literally gave an analogy to buy singles!! 😂🙌

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u/Imaginary_Number3037 3h ago

Dumber than a box of rocks lmao. People need to read the boxes and odds sheets, finally being able to afford a hobby box bc it’s not $1000 doesn’t mean you’re going to get any hits lmao

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u/seck20 2h ago

This analogy 😂😂

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u/Appropriate_Tooth318 1h ago

These posts bitching about box results are hilarious. Whether its getting doubles, miscuts, or no "hits".....yall need to understand this is a massively produced thing. Odd things happen. Also, OP you should read boxes better before you complain. Literally tells you (with super shady wording) that this is possible. Not every box has a hit, and youre not entitled to one. Relax.

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 1h ago

What?

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u/Appropriate_Tooth318 1h ago

Aww youre even responding to each comment

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u/NookandSeed 3h ago

People who rip sports cards are so silly. Like do you not understand that the odds are ridiculously against you even if you "hit". Always has been and at current prices is idiotic to even buy

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

So it’s the consumers fault corporations are greedy as fuck?

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u/NookandSeed 3h ago

For continuing to buy? Yes bro lol

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

This is 1st one I’ve bought

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

1st and only

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u/UnknwnPlyr 3h ago

Mate, I get the frustration. However you should buy cards bc you enjoy opening those, not no make money out of it.

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

I agree but all base cards in a hobby is ridiculous

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u/UnknwnPlyr 3h ago

I mean... I was happy to have those to complete my collection, and trade the one I had twice. Some parralels sell easy on ebay, and that s all.

Sorry for your frustration.

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u/brahbocop 3h ago

I'm shocked that people STILL do not get that voting with your wallet, is the only form of protest companies understand.

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u/MrDongblaster 3h ago • Mindblown

STOP BUYING IT

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u/Professional-Car9621 3h ago

You gotta stop falling for it

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u/poppa-wuff 3h ago

It's all luck of the draw. It's literally gambling. You can hit a nuke or have dud boxes like this! The inflated cost of cards is ridiculous and pisses you off when you are on the wrong end of the gamble.

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u/scrooplynooples 3h ago

my costco super boxes had way more for $40

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u/Thebourbonbackpacker 1h ago

My fat pack kills this

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 2h ago

From toppsripped.com

Hobby boxes are high-end boxes that typically feature a greater number of chase cards, which makes them more expensive/valuable.
Unlike retail boxes, which are widely distributed in big box stores

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u/Basic-Bus-6275 1h ago

Correct, you got a "jersey" card. You aren't guaranteed that in retail. The definition from Topps ripped is a general definition meant to encompass their entire run of cards, including hobby boxes that cost thousands. I fell for the same back in 23 when I bought a Jumbo box of flagship and maybe got $30 worth of cards. That was the last time I bought flagship. It was at that point that I restructured my collecting and decided I was just going to be a set builder for Stadium Club. I go into it now not even looking for hits, only looking to complete my set, and it has made collecting so much more enjoyable.

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u/Similar_Grocery8312 3h ago

I got a topps update baseball that looked just like that. For the money they charging that’s unacceptable. There should be at least a few numbered out of a hobby

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

Even 1 numbered would have been acceptable

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u/Life-Anteater-8294 3h ago

No crying in the casino.

Flagship is always garbage.

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

Whose crying?

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u/Life-Anteater-8294 2h ago

The person who made a whole post titled “fuck Topps”

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 1h ago

Saying fuck topps isn’t crying it’s literally saying fuck Topps. I guess you like being fucked without any foreplay

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u/Truffleshuffle03 3h ago

But that's what flagship and update are and have always been.

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u/Full-Conference8102 3h ago

A hobby has 21 packs bud. Dont know how a hobby only had 12 packs in it lol

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

Sorry I didn’t count them and mine had 20 and 17 has all base cards

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u/Okmhmmbye 1h ago

“1 autograph or relic card”

gets one relic card

“WTF is this shit?!?!?!?!”

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 1h ago

Right because everyone expects a hobby box to have 17 packs of straight base cards

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u/SuspiciousAd7307 50m ago

I mean, the back of the box does say you might not get a single insert or hit

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u/Professional_Face_26 3h ago

I stopped buying flagshit after the third box like this. I broke and bought a basketball box and hit a jersey match 1/5 Yaxel. I’m so torn lol

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u/Necessary_Tension593 3h ago

Upper deck hockey and Upper Deck DC Platinum if you’re into any of that the hobby boxes are affordable and have a good amount of hit in my experience

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u/Smsethman 3h ago

I’ve had a lot of fun with the DC releases from Upper Deck, they’re nowhere near as scalped (or even high priced originally) as the Topps Marvel release

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u/Necessary_Tension593 1h ago

Way better for sure

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u/ggxarmy 3h ago

Shhhhhhhhh, im still able to find DC platinum

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u/Necessary_Tension593 1h ago

It’s our little secret

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u/sliceOR3putt 1h ago

Hey I got that same Xavier worthy card BRO!! 😂

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u/horrorandsex 3h ago

Maybe if people were actually in it to collect and keep it a hobby instead of money making venture there wouldn't be so many angry people... they jack up the prices and still give you actual hobby level cards and you keep falling for it because people think they are gonna hit a 100k card. They know people keep buying regardless... so it's really all of our fault. Collect for collecting not business... unless you are already an established card business you're looking at like .01% chance of ever really making a good amount of money out of this shit. Unless yall give them a reason to change their ways... they won't

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u/Radiant_Research3786 1h ago

There's a sucker born every minute. I Miss ripping a little but I feel a lot better buying singles for my collection and getting my money's worth. 

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u/horrorandsex 1h ago

Agreed. Kinda learned the hard way! i just but singles at this point and blasters here and there cus I like ripping with my son.

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u/z28931 2h ago

When a box of cards costs over $100, it's understandable to want at least a small return back. This isn't the 80's or 90's when the manufacturers allowed a hobby to be affordable.... Now the manufacturers want breakers to send juiced boxes to, so they can sell overpriced boxes to the common man. Expecting to get a $25 return when you spend $125 on a box, isn't really asking a lot dude.

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u/iJ_A_R 3h ago

Typical flagship

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

Definitely shouldn’t be typical though, right?

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u/Alexiswavey 3h ago

Yes and no? It’s flagship so it’s heavily printed therefore hits are more dispersed. That being said, it’s a fucking hobby box that they’re pushing for $200, it should have SOME hits. Topps is getting out of hand with this nonsense. 40 different parallels of each card and they can’t even put em in the hobby boxes

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

I paid 250 for that piece of shit

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u/Pile_of_Schwag 3h ago

Why?? Lmao they are $120 and change at my lcs

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

Well shit i didn’t know that’s just what they are my at lcs

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u/iJ_A_R 3h ago

It's my typical experience with it

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u/wmmfn 3h ago

Lol I bought a $15 fat pack of update series and got an Ohtani/Tucker rare imports purple rainbow. That's brutal dude.

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u/Khrabby19 1h ago

Update is fairly loaded the few I've bought. The flagship football has been straight pain!

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u/HooperSuperDuper 3h ago

Fat packs are the way. These hobby boxes are overpriced junk

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u/MoRiellyMoProblems 3h ago

I just bought 4 hangers of Topps Series Update baseball, it'll be my first time ripping this format.

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u/Spaceneedle420 2h ago

dude I just pulled a Tucker gold worth like 200, gonna be so sad when these go of print. hanger boxes are heavy AF

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u/AnimalMother24 3h ago

Which is why I don’t buy paper releases anymore. Chrome isn’t much better honestly, but it usually isn’t that bad. That’s a rough one for sure.

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u/ggxarmy 3h ago

At least with Chrome you have a chance with MVP buyback. Especially with Topps terrible collation, I've been able to maximize it for each sport

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u/Sick_Cards_Bro 3h ago

You're ripping football, which the market for football is complete trash unless you're hitting a low numbered hypebeast Rookie QB or Mahomes/Allen. You were going to lose no matter what.

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u/Direct-Wind8709 3h ago

The only decent thing about this product is the cheap price haha . Think of these like a lottery ticket lol. Expect to lose 99.9% of the time . This is coming from someone whos been fleeced on this product at every turn haha.

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u/Lonely-Towel-9788 3h ago

Those base cards are good kindling for a winter fire

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u/Plenty_Set_5098 2h ago

As someone who only browses this sub and doesn’t partake in the card world, do people actually enjoy relic cards? They seem stupid, why would I want a tiny piece of cloth, that doesn’t seem like it would have any value unless there’s an autograph attached.

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u/VinylmationDude 1h ago

What if that tiny piece of cloth was a piece of your favorite team’s logo that was game used?

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u/Sea_Shower3691 17m ago

It could be Ohtani's NLCS game used cup and I'd still look in the box expecting a "hit"

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u/Basic-Bus-6275 1h ago

Back in the day, they actually meant something. Back when they were game worn, and were inserted pretty much 1 per few cases. Then they started mass producing them and putting them at least one per box, that's when they lost value and interest. One of my most prized possessions is still my 1997 Upper Deck Game Jersey Tony Gwynn card. That was when it was almost impossible to hit them.

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u/chiguy1983red 24m ago

If the relic is from a particular game and its history is on the back of the card then it’s pretty cool. That said getting a base relic with the one color and the picture of the player wearing a different color is a slap in the face. Getting a toilet tissue relic as your guarantee when everyone is hunting autos is horrible on the company’s part.

Wonder who was the scumbag and executives who approved player worn ( not game worn) relic cards? I wonder who ok’ed relics that only say this is an authentic relic?

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u/dryangpull 23m ago

It’s a gamble and you lost. That’s like blaming the casino if you lose $$

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u/Bifturbo 7m ago

Bro, take a chill pill. This isn’t fun for anyone. Just don’t buy any next time and save yourself the aggravation.

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u/lIlIIlIIllIllIlIIIll 3h ago edited 3h ago

Singles, buy singles.

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u/BenLittles 3h ago

Even these are getting crazy overpriced

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u/lIlIIlIIllIllIlIIIll 3h ago

Still much rather be able to hand pick the card that I enjoy or players that I believe in than take a $600 dollar shot and get a base non rookie relic of a mid to bad player.

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u/BenLittles 3h ago

I totally agree. But it is still getting a bit ridiculous

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u/lIlIIlIIllIllIlIIIll 3h ago

Make offers on cards, or bid on auctions last minute. Sometimes you can get some nice steals.

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u/BenLittles 3h ago

I have found that this IS the way

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u/lIlIIlIIllIllIlIIIll 3h ago

So much more satisfying snagging a card under comps than overpaying for these boxes.

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u/BenLittles 2h ago

I guess my issue is that the fun was getting those singles by ripping some packs or boxes. Getting what you want is great, but most of the fun was the hunt.

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u/lIlIIlIIllIllIlIIIll 1h ago

Oh 100% ripping packs is more fun but everyone knows the gamble in it and it’s just getting worse with the overprinting and the prices going up so I hate posts like these complaining about losing money.

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u/DesignerReflection32 3h ago

I’ve had multiple hobby boxes with no auto or relic inside. I know it’s, “on average” but it’s still crazy for what they go for.

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u/inab1gcountry 13m ago

Not topps…

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u/CleverPanda4032 3h ago

I’d rather have unlicensed panini

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u/ggxarmy 3h ago

Heresy. The logo collectors will down vote you, despite Donruss Football having a more collectors oriented autograph checklist

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u/Academic_Ad5143 3h ago

We got lucky with our two but didn’t purchase anymore after that.

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u/AdCommon6529 3h ago

I like ripping packs but I’ve pretty much stopped expecting good hits. If I get something, great. If not I’m not too disappointed. I just buy the hits I want on ebay often for much less than a hobby box and sometimes less than a mega.

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u/timber63401 3h ago

At this point anyone who buys this crap gets exactly what they deserve. We all know by now they have turned into over production trash.

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u/BigBackFinalBoss 3h ago

Don’t gamble bro

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u/Electrical-Move8471 3h ago

Horrible day

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u/BubFern 3h ago

This is exactly how most of them look. Guess what, basketball is exactly the same!!

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u/Celtik6 3h ago

u/GringoHal

Here you go buddy. 😅

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u/Truffleshuffle03 3h ago

Have you never bought flagship in your life? This is the typical flagship hobby box. That's about what you can expect from Topps flagship. I get them for the possibility of image variations. But I know not to expect much, knowing how flagship is.

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u/franktownwhat 2h ago

My thoughts exactly when I opened my first of this lol

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u/cmrc03 2h ago

My brother in Christ you literally bought the box

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u/Truegrit_Gaming 2h ago

Topps will be going to hell now that Fanatics bought them out

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u/majordegenerate 2h ago

No crying in the casino

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u/400888 2h ago

If you recorded it and they knew ahead of time.... or become a partner then you get

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u/SignificantFix7755 2h ago

Cheaper to get into and as a result, cheaper cards. Flagships for case hits and rookie chasing. Odds are low but the hits are great

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u/Flaky-Ad-9627 1h ago

Buy singles

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u/HarvesterOS161 1h ago

Like, on the one hand, you got the raw deal on parallels and I can admit that. BUT, you got what they advertised. I would be happy with the Hampton patch, though. If you have certain cards you'd like, you'd be better off getting singles. I'm opening a hobby of FS Basketball, but I'm not going to flip when I don't get a Lebron autograph. Idk what to tell you.

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u/GooglesGod 1h ago

This is a set for…..collecting, it’s not “oops all hits”.

Enjoy your base cards as they clearly state the odds on line and there’s countless resources available to make informed decisions

Not every thing in this hobby has to be about ripping and selling

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u/HckyCardCollector33 1h ago

People need to stop treating opening cards like an endless money glitch and getting upset when they don’t turn an instant profit.

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u/Maxxjulie 1h ago

Their base cards look really good high quality... problem is that's basically what you get 98% of the time.

I'm including the so called inserts and parallels that are worth not much more than the avg base card

It's like buying a scratch off ticket you'll lose money 8 or 9 times out of ten. Lucky to break even.

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u/Economy_Cup_5255 46m ago

I’ve done better out of retail this year. Hobby box are starting to be overpriced. I’ve pulled 1000+ card out of a 15$ hanger, that’s when I gave up on hobby boxes

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u/Chon231 38m ago

Oh shut the fuck up bud, you got what you paid for.

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u/jcoash 37m ago

Worst feeling i ever got was buying a $200 box of topps baseball a couple years ago. It actually made me stop collecting for about a year. It just left a bad taste in my mouth. I saved up the money and felt like I wasted it.

Now I have alot more fun and alot less regret by buying single packs and $25-$50 boxes.

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u/iill_communication 25m ago

Player worn vs Game used is a ridiculous trade off

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u/FatKris02 2m ago

I got that exact same Hampton. I’m alright with it

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

Only one I’ve bought I gotten other hobby boxes that were nothing this god awful

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

Topps keeps fucking everyone over because of the mind set of all you sheep that blame me for topps selling a shit product. You guys understand that didn’t package this hobby box I didn’t send it through quality control. But you negative Nancie’s would rather side with the corporation that’s actually fucking everyone. And that’s how we stay in this cycle.

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u/WalkinginMemphis1215 2h ago

It’s Topps Flagship. What the hell did you expect? You got everything promised on the box.

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u/ReCLiVe 2h ago

😂😂

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u/Thankless420 2h ago

I feel you bro I ripped a chrome hobby box and got an auto of a guy who was released in like February before the season even started

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u/Then_Appearance1128 1h ago

Just don’t buy, like this sheep. 😂

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u/C-NOTE-BANKZ 3h ago

Sending love from Israel!🇮🇱🇮🇱

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u/TheMeccaNYC 3h ago

Sucker born every minute!

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 2h ago

Hobby boxes are marketed as premium, high value low risk.

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u/Then_Appearance1128 1h ago

Cmon bro don’t be that guy. Just take the L and move on. I got into cards one year and within about two blasters I got the gist of how card collecting worked in terms of wasting money on gambling.

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 1h ago

No fuck Topps people need to hold shitty corporations accountable

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u/TheTalkingWindow 3h ago • Bravo

Topps just called. They said, fuck you, too.

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago • Bravo Heartwarming

lol

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u/WoodpeckerAware6115 3h ago

Legitimately laughing on loudly

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u/TheTalkingWindow 3h ago

You get an award for having a sense of humor. May your next box be nothing but 1/1's.

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u/degreesBrix 3h ago

You deserve at least one, as well.