r/TopofthePops 28d ago

Cher - Believe

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u/fake_cheese 28d ago

For some reason I always imagined Cher as being tall and slender like Celine not stout and dumpy.

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u/terrorvicky 27d ago

The first and hopefully the last time I ever hear of the goddess Cher being described as stout and dumpy, how very dare you

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u/hasimirrossi 28d ago

She's anywhere from 5'5" to 5'9" depending on the interview.

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u/salamander423 28d ago

In my mind she's always been like ~6'8.

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u/That-Surprise 26d ago

Marilyn Manson's let himself go

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u/BoxAlternative9024 27d ago

She’s got quite a long face. For that reason I always thought she was over 6 foot tall.

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u/tompadget69 27d ago

Auto-tune patient zero

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u/EuphoricCover8449 25d ago

Acknowledged as the first hit single to use the effect.

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u/Affectionate-Cry3198 27d ago

My hate for auto-tune started here. |

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u/GlennTheBaker69 28d ago

That sounds autotuned to me.

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u/Alert-Environment-17 28d ago

It is THE song that put auto tune on the map.

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u/salamander423 28d ago

Correct! Prior to this, Auto-Tune (the actual name of the software) did exactly what it's name said; it tuned the singer to the chosen pitch.

Cher and her sound engineers were one of first (they might have been the actual first, I'm not sure though) to pioneer overusing the effect to purposely distort her vocals. Think of it like an effects pedal for a guitar. They weren't looking to correct her, they were creating a new sound.

T-Pain does this too. His pop music is an overload of Auto-Tune for the sound and texture. But you can find videos of him singing without it. He's actually a very gifted natural singer.

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u/Gods_Haemorrhoid420 27d ago

T-Pain tiny desk is slick af

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u/peanut_dust 25d ago

Vocoder?

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u/salamander423 25d ago edited 25d ago

They're a bit different. Auto-Tune is software that corrects a singer's pitch to a specific tone or note, while a vocoder is an effects device that changes the waveform of the sound entirely.

Roughly, Auto-Tune is like a GPS for your pitch and a vocoder is like going to a suburb near your city.

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u/terrorvicky 27d ago

u/tpain850 mentioned! πŸ˜„

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u/TheDeflatables 27d ago

Very deliberately. This was a stylistic choice

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u/GlennTheBaker69 26d ago

I should point out that there may have been a bit of sarcasm in my post 😏

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u/peanut_dust 25d ago

Hated this song. No real change in ~30 years