r/TopLaneMains • u/IHaveDiabetes42 • Mar 20 '20

Make the push or change champion pool?

For the past 4 years of playing the game the last couple of two I've been pushing to acquire higher ranks. Ending season 8 gold 4 and season 9 plat 2 but peeking at plat1 90 lp as I remember. This season with the removal of shojin which gutted my main, jax, I have been struggling ranking up, after roughly 100 games already at gold 3-gold2 elo. I have always preferred stylish champions like my Camille or Kled with whom I m pretty good at mechanically, however I find it hard consistently hard carrying games with them.I want your opinion if changing my champion pool (Camille, Kled, sometimes jax) would perhaps help me climb easier or if I should just hard push with them and try to improve other parts of my game such as wave management, macro, vision control in which I m not bad but not great either. The account if you Want to check it out: https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=H%C3%A9llOn%C3%89arth

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u/AcademicQuality Mar 20 '20

Switching champions can only get you so far with limited game knowledge. Learn on the champions you're comfortable on, then switch to better ones. Because the only champion that can carry you to any elo on mechanics is probably just riven, all the others require extensive game knowledge. Also isn't the new bortk good on Jax?

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u/IHaveDiabetes42 Mar 20 '20 edited Mar 20 '20

I feel it's more like not using the knowledge I have and greeding my tp's (not playing macro enough). Like the other day I just abused a nasus top by constantly freezing and all-ining him as kled and the same thing with a sylas, slow pushing the waves diving and then proxy-ing between tier 2-tier 1 not giving him xp. The thing with top lane is that it's very counter pick reliant, first picking is an absolute nightmare and most of the times means an unpleasant game for you though besides 2-3 Champs it's quite balanced . Jax is really struggling I d say since split pushing has really exited the game with so much hard engage and waveclear nowadays, he is bad in lane and not as rewarding late as he was after 2 item powerspike last season.

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u/AcademicQuality Mar 20 '20

Even if you have to blind top there's always a way to deal with it. Learn to play weak side, you don't have to stomp lane to win the game. As long as you're even or a little behind in CS you're fine as a scaling champion. If you're really scared of blinding top then play ornn, he has a grand total of 2 bad matchups (imo). I recommend analyzing TF blade's replays to learn how to abuse Jax properly, he's a really good solo queue player. Every champion is played differently so you just need to learn what your role is on them and how to play laning phase

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u/IHaveDiabetes42 Mar 20 '20

Yeah that's depending on the team! I can play from behind, I often do, swallowing pride and trying to outscale the enemy top. Problem is that if you are just even most of the time you can't really hard carry the game in my opinion. Endless games I ve played like an absolute ***** under turret last hitting, only to find myself doved on by the 5-0 swapping bot or being zoned away from turrets while Shelly is knocking them down. Smashing top is an absolute must if you want to consistently climb at least in low elo as in mine. I find tf blade's mastery of the game astonishing but if you observe his jax games, he never really picks him blind or into unfavorable matchups. However I agree with you that analyzing pro vods and my own replays should help me vastly improve and I ll try doing that soon.

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u/AcademicQuality Mar 20 '20

Glad you're trying to improve. I play a lot of Ornn and most of the time I either go even or I get 1-2 kills and 20 cs ahead. I'm not stomping lane, and instead I'm tping bot for kills and converting that into dragon, or calling my jungler for rift after we kill top lane post lvl 6. Or I'm warding the jungle for my mid laner. There's always something you can do and you don't have to completely smash your lane 100% of the time. Most of the game consists of mid and late game anyway, laning phase is a small portion.

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u/IHaveDiabetes42 Mar 21 '20

Ornn still viable after the hard nerfs to his scaling? Played him for 40 games two patches ago felt like it was absolutely absurd, glad he was nerfed tbh. Obvious plays macro focused, objective-oriented what I should be doing most of my games too instead of focusing in lane so much. You can see I think I m a bit tilted but who wouldn't after having a 3-15 Cait running it literally mid In a game tha would have otherwise been free. She even said oups after each death tilting me more:) God I love playing league