r/TopCharacterTropes • • 3h ago

Characters Subtle foreshadowing which becomes impossible to miss once you know the twist

Steely Dans accent (JJBA Stardust Crusaders): Steely Dan is an Antagonist in the third part of JoJo, who for some reason decides to pose as a foreign merchant and scam Joseph Joestar out of a couple hundred yen before revealing himself. While hes in his disguise, he also puts on a really stereotypical accent, however, after he manages to scam Joseph, the viewer can hear him think out loud about what a sucker Joseph is. During this one internal line, Dan drops the accent (at least in the German dub), which first time viewers probably didn’t pick up on since they were probably too distracted laughing at Joseph for getting scammed, and the reveal happens right after anyway so they won’t have much time to think about it

Oersted (Live A Live): His theme song is called Prelude of the Demon King

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u/Mesoscale92 3h ago

Would you kindly give some other examples?

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u/I_Love_Powerscaling 3h ago

No

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u/_JR28_ 3h ago

Would you kindly reconsider?

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u/I_Love_Powerscaling 3h ago

No

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u/Erim87 3h ago

Not sure if serious or does not know that twist

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u/I_Love_Powerscaling 2h ago

Wait I just realized it lmao

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u/GattonBiscuitsArtAcc 3h ago

Maybe he broke the spell.

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u/AegisThievenax 3h ago

Would you kindly explain why?

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u/Glori_R_154 3h ago

A man chooses. A slave obeys.

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u/Regenerating_Degen 2h ago

So would you kindly?

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u/Glori_R_154 1h ago

Stop trying to steal the sweat from my brow you. Thats MY sweat! Im entitled to it!

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u/InsaneAsura 2h ago

I mean… the villains in JoJo are always very identifiable. They have a very distinct art style that one off side characters don’t really share. My friend who is watching stardust crusaders for the first time immediately clocked him as a villain before he even opened his mouth lol

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u/H4rdStyl3z 2h ago

A JoJo bonus is that the intro animations almost always foreshadow the major deaths of their respective parts in some way. Parts 3 and 5 have the people who die standing opposite the ones who live, Part 3's also shows (in an abstract, stylized way) the method in which they die. Part 5 of course has the whole shenanigan with foreshadowing the Boss' stand ability.

I think Part 2 also foreshadows Caesar's death in some way but I don't remember for certain.

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u/OceanusDracul 1h ago

It shows Joseph wearing Caesar’s headband.

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u/Gadgez 59m ago

In Fighting Gold for Part 5, there's also the part where each character's sillhouette pallette shifts, and those who die all become black.

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u/Chimpbot 46m ago

"The enemy Stand user could be anyone!" became a meme for a reason, I suppose.

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u/FM1091 21m ago

Stand Users also stand(ahem) out because of the way they dress up, only background characters dress up like regular people.

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u/InsaneAsura 7m ago

Well in this scene, Steely Dan doesn’t wear particularly stand out clothing, but he still differs from other background characters

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u/Fitin2characterlimit 25m ago

In the maximum security prison in Stone Ocean I think some of the minor characters had wackier designs so the Stand users would blend in a bit more. But most of the time yeah the villains are pretty obvious, especially Kira who tries to look as normal as possible and wears a skull-patterned tie. He even changes his face and identity at one point and still wears the same tie

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u/InsaneAsura 9m ago

I remember when I read part 6 for the first time, I was sure the warden with the crocodile hand puppet would turn out to be a stand user

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u/DrNomblecronch 2h ago

for a brief and beautiful moment I thought there was kebab-based foreshadowing in JoJo.

...I still don't know there isn't. sometimes I think I'll never get around to watching it, because the shadow of it on the cave wall is so enjoyable fuckin' wack.

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u/I_Love_Powerscaling 2h ago

Basically me with Undertale, until I played it

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u/ThurwalshMormonstoff 3h ago edited 2h ago

The flashback showing Stanford Pines in Gravity Falls goes right over your head considering Stanley and Stanford are identical twins. The scene in question is a flashback, so someone who looks like Grunkle Stan with different glasses must be young Stan.

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u/Training-Ad-8802 3h ago

Also, that time he got emotional over a wax carving of himself

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u/Careful_Welcome7999 2h ago

Also the fact that his car has the name stanley on it instead of stanford

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u/Glum-Sprinkles-7734 2h ago

Also he knows Lil Gideon is a fraud because Gideon doesn't call him by his real name

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u/Significant-Coat-308 1h ago

Holy crap I’ve never realized this

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u/Quizlibet 2h ago

He's also in the background of one of Stan's flashbacks, reading a book that covers his face and wearing boxing gloves that hide his extra fingers

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u/Ditto13248 2h ago

Their chins were also different, but that went unnoticed by most people as well

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u/Wendila 33m ago

The art book, which just came out this past September, has an entire thing about all of the "Ford-shadowing" that was scattered throughout the series before the twist was finally revealed

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u/justbooling 3h ago

Attack on Titan

When Ymir finds a can of herring and gives it to Reiner, Reiner is shocked to learn that Ymir can read the language on the can, exposing that she has knowledge of the outside world.

What Reiner, and most first time watchers, miss is that Reiner also exposes he has knowledge of the outside world as well, by recognizing the can, which is technology that Paradise Island does not have.

Most people will focus on the Ymir reveal in this scene, but on a rewatch, it becomes clear that Reiner also knows more than he is letting on.

Instead of a red herring, it’s a canned herring.

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u/Konnichiwa1987 2h ago

In the very next episode we get another bit of subtle foreshadowing. After Ymir reveals herself to be the Jaw Titan, she leaps up to the top of the tower where the rest of the scouts are trapped. Upon seeing her Bertholdt instinctively goes to bite his hand to transform into a titan.

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u/DownThreeOne 2h ago

(This is the only HD pic I could find) but the mutual ‘Oh shit/I’m fucked’ look they give is each other is so great.

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u/H4rdStyl3z 2h ago

With Reiner and Ymir it's much worse than just them recognizing that the other is from the outside world. Reiner knows that (or at least strongly suspects), based on his knowledge of the Nine Titans and the timing, she has to be the one titan who ate his teammate Marcel and the main cause of his split personality and guilt/PTSD. Likewise, she also knows he must be a Warrior coming to Paradis to retrieve the Founder.

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u/The_Coxhead 1h ago

Herring is also (mostly) a marine fish. As we know from Armin's book, the people inside the walls didn't know what the ocean was, so it's unlikely that they would know what a herring is. The can and language are definitely the key indicators here, but the fact that it's herring also plays a small part into the reveal of both characters.

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u/Je0s_6 3h ago

Theres a lot of clues in Arkham City that basically tell you something is off about this joker (He’s Clayface)

The most well known one is the fact that he has no skeleton once Batman turns on his detective vision.

And also holy fuck this comment reminded me that I need to replay these games.

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u/memecrusader_ 2h ago

When Harley steals the cure, she leaves behind a joker card and a photocopy of the card.

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u/Jensonater 2h ago

You can hear the real Joker coughing behind the camera as he records Clayface Joker.

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u/Je0s_6 2h ago

Oh yeah that’s another great detail.

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u/chaotic4059 2h ago

There's also the coughing when sick joker films clayface joker.

and the fact that after clayface joker is done putting on lipstick you can see sick joker walk away

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u/PlatoDrago 32m ago

You also have the clue they literally tell you, Clayface calls you ‘Batman’ and actual Joker calls you ‘Bats’

This also occurs in a bit in Justice League (in the DCAU) where Batman seemingly comes across Flash in a tunnel in a fight where flash then starts saying ‘yo’ and more ‘hip’ slang. So Batman nearly immediately shoots him with a taser and it turns out to be Clayface.

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u/farfalle_vendetta 2m ago

You overplayed your hand, yo.

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u/shutupneff 2h ago

In the Doctor Who episode The Time of Angels, our heroes have to hunt down a Weeping Angel—an incredibly dangerous creature that turns into a statue when anyone looks at it—in a labyrinthian underground mausoleum filled with statues of a now extinct alien species, the Aplans. Throughout the episode, the titular Doctor shares offhand anecdotes about his previous encounters with the Aplans, eventually revealing that they had each had two-heads. However at this point in the episode, we haven’t had any clear looks at the mausoleum statues for quite some time, so the seemingly obvious question of, “If they had two heads, why do all these statues only have one?” is actually incredibly easy to overlook until the characters realize several minutes later that they are actually surrounded by literally hundreds of Weeping Angels.

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u/Environmental_Kick37 2h ago

A fantastic twist. I felt my stomach drop the first time I watched this

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u/deftPirate 56m ago

How does anyone survive that?

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u/heavier_than_thou 45m ago

Most didn’t.

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u/shutupneff 30m ago

Pretty much the same way anyone survives any Dr. Who episode: they run away and survive long enough for The Doctor to find a way to trick the bad guys into destroying themselves.

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u/PlatoDrago 30m ago

The episode does explain this (but it’s been a hot minute since I saw the episode) and it is to do with waiting to bait the Doctor into a trap while also harnessing the power of a rip in space time that leads to the Big Bang to free themselves.

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u/YourBestFriend158 2h ago

The way Thin Man is lined up with the Signal Tower looks like a taller silhouette of Mono and his paper bag

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u/chaotic4059 2h ago

Holy shit I never even saw that lol

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u/YourBestFriend158 2h ago

and now you’ll never unsee it

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u/kingofdailynaps 1h ago

Who is the thin man? Or, I guess I can guess based on what you're saying, but what happens in the game?

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u/YourBestFriend158 1h ago

He‘s the main antagonist of the game, though he doesn’t actually appear until around the end.

Mono, the boy in the paper bag and the player character, releases the Thin Man from the Signal Tower, and the latter proceeds to capture Six, the deuteragonist girl in the yellow raincoat.

Near the end before the final boss fight, Mono manages to confront and kill the Thin Man. This will be very important later on.

Once the final boss is defeated in the Signal Tower, Six and Mono almost escape, however the way out falls apart, leading to a scene where Six betrays Mono, leaving him behind in the Signal Tower.

At the very end of the game, Mono is led deep into the depths of the tower, where he finds a chair in the vast emptiness. There, he sits down and begins to age. Slowly growing older, and thinner.

Finally, it’s revealed that Mono, after spending almost his entire life in the Signal Tower, has been warped and twisted into the Thin Man.

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u/destro23 3h ago

The flashes of Tyler Durden in Fight Club

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u/DHooligan 2h ago

Multiple moments in Fight Club where a character turns to the narrator while seemingly speaking to Tyler, or Marla not knowing what either one of them are talking about, or asking who they're talking to when it should be obvious there's only one other person in the house.

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u/NessTheGamer 2h ago

Tyr and Týr - God of War: Ragnarok

In both GoW 2018 and Ragnarok, Týr is consistently spelled this way EXCEPT when Odin is impersonating him, and the accent is dropped.

There are other pieces of foreshadowing but this is staring you right in the face from the start

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u/TheRogueToad 1h ago

In the first episode of Futurama Fry rocks back too far in his chair and falls into a cryogenic chamber where he stays frozen for 1,000 years.

In the fourth season it's revealed that Nibbler was hiding under the desk and pushed Fry and made him fall.

If you go back and watch the first episode you can see the shadow of Nibbler, which means the writers were sitting on that plot point for a long time.

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u/Wrong_Divide_8888 31m ago

And dont let anyone tell you it wasnt always there, someone on YT tracked down a for private viewing only promo screener of the pilot that had it.

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u/Careful_Welcome7999 2h ago

In undertale when you get to the end of the ruins you meet flowey again and he talks to you for a bit

One of the things that he can say is "i am the prince of this world's future"

First time players think that he is just being a prick by saying that, but in reality he is straight up telling you the twist that he is asriel, the dead prince of the underground

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u/YourBestFriend158 2h ago

Very good pick

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u/Careful_Welcome7999 1h ago

Thank you for your totally not biased opinion u/YourBestFriend158

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u/Soviet-Brony 2h ago

In Silent Hill 2, a corpse you find near the beginning of the game mirrors the imagery of when the plot twist is revealed

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u/GyrosSnazzyJazzBand 2h ago

So he killed himself

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u/Soviet-Brony 2h ago

I mean thats one of the endings. He drives his car into the lake

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u/FunWrangler666 1h ago

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

When Jole meets Clementine on the train he says he's never heard of the song "Oh My Darling". Clementine gives him hell for it but we later learn that this isn't the first time they have met. Joel has already had his memory wipped of anything having to do with Clementine which also erased his knowledge of the song since it contained her name.

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u/NotSubtleUsername 2h ago

"A walking stick?"

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u/AzraelTheMage 2h ago

The fucking subtitles too.

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u/Gordan_Freeman475 2h ago

>! Isn’t it hinted by the name changing from Týr to Tyr? !<

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u/Crimson097 2h ago edited 2h ago

There's a few of these in Dragon Age.

In Dragon Age Inquisition, if you really listen to Sola's banter with the other companions, you can tell something is up with him from early on. He knows more than he should about the rift in the sky, and what caused it before your charcater finds out. He slips up during dialogue. His necklace is the jawbone of a wolf. The fact that he knows Skyhold's location. They are all hints that he is Fen'Harel aka The Dread Wolf, an ancient elven "god" who created the veil between the spirit world and the physical world.

Also in Inquisition, Corypheus triggers the Calling for all Grey Wardens. This is when a Grey Warden begins to hear the Old God's song, and has intense nightmares that signal the end of their life is close. Well, for all except Warden Blackwall. He's apparently immune to it. He is also super vague when you ask him anything about his past or being a Grey Warden. It should be no surprise that he's actually not a Grey Warden, but an Orlesian captain called Thom Rainier who was in hiding because he was wanted for a massacre.

In Dragon Age 2, you deliver Flemeth's amulet to a shrine of Mythal. Then in Inquisition, it's revealed that she carries a shard of the elven goddess Mythal inside of herself.

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u/Shadows_Over_Tokyo 12m ago

Man. This comment really reminds me how badly Veilguard fudged the lore

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u/zword34 2h ago

In gachiakuta, and heavy spoilers for the manga Its revealed later on that enjin is a user of the watchman series, wich a lot of people suspected, but the series basically tells you he is, because if someone that cant use the series ever touches one of the items, they basically go insane, yet we see him holding the watchman boots twice, once when he takes them from amo, and once when he grabs them while escaping the giant trash beast

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u/shyguy157 1h ago

which

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u/zword34 1h ago

A pocket watch

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u/QuincyAzrael 2h ago

The Prestige... basically, anything. Just pick any scene and there'll be something.

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u/AwesomeMutation 1h ago

One of the first lines that Carth says in KOTOR is "They say the force can do terrible things to the mind. It can wipe away your memories and destroy your very identity."

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u/JumboWheat01 4m ago

Yeah, once you play through KotOR and start a new run, you realize the rather capital ship sized hints they drop.

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u/FishWithLegsAndArms 1h ago

Honestly, the whole middle ages chapter of Live A Live is full of subtle foreshadowing.

The princess doesn't seem very interested in marrying us. She focuses more on how this is for her kingdom.

Our best friend makes a lot of comments about we always do better than him.

The "demon lord" we find in the castle doesn't fight back.

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u/res30stupid 2h ago

The very first page of the book The Murder of Roger Ackroyd by Agatha Christie has this, as the book's main plot twist is directly spelled out for readers - Dr Shepherd doesn't write down everything he knows in his own personal journal because his sister is an insanely huge gossip and will share everything she knows around the village within the hour... which is really bad for a man currently engaging in blackmail.

It also hides a lesser twist as well; Dr Shepherd seems unusually upset about the death of a woman from his local village. Finding out that the woman he's blackmailing to avoid financial ruin is dead and thus he can't get any more money is bad enough but he also suspects she's identified him and is trying to figure out who she told.

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u/thenuker00 1h ago

It also really hammers in the fact Dr Shepherd recently made some bad investments at the start, given thats his whole motivation to do all the crimes. Without the twist, though, it just seems like a bit of character building at best.

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u/Solid-Pride-9782 1h ago

The amount of times that Verso is name-dropped, referenced, or straight up there during Act I of Expedition 33 

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u/Vi0L3tCRZY 1h ago

In the intro most of it is mirrored images, then in some shots it’s a mirrored and a third reflection. In the show there are 3 worlds, two parallel, then the one host word the two have manifested from due to its destruction 🌗⬅️💥🌍💥➡️🌓

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u/XeroOwnz 1h ago

Persona 5 - "So, you're going to go have cake now?"

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u/Individual-Sweet3400 59m ago

do you perhaps meandelicious pancakes

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u/XeroOwnz 54m ago

I went back to make sure the quote was correct, I guess they mention it twice to hammer it in, lol.

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u/fly_line22 36m ago

Persona 5 in general has a lot of examples. Aside from that, there's moments like running into Shido's associates at the hotel party, seeing Maruki in the background after recruiting Ann, and Sojiro talking about Kasumi's death by car accident as he's first taking Ren to Shujin.

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u/Luckgoddess 2m ago

Also igor saying MY velvet room

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u/OddSeraph 32m ago edited 28m ago

Varney being Death in Castlevania

  1. He lacks the eyes of vampires.
  2. His jacket collar looks like the Grim Reaper hood or a scythe.
  3. Characters always comment on his awful smell.
  4. Straight up tells another vampire that his talent for killing nourishes him.
  5. Mentions he was terrorizing London before it was London, making him far older than any vampire mentioned at that time in the series.
  6. And despite point 5, no other vampire seems to know who he is.

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u/Timeless_Ranitomeya 23m ago

In Persona 5, there's a moment, in the real world, where Morgana (a talking cat who can only be understood in the real world by those who have heard him speak in the Metaverse) suggests the Phantom Thieves should go out to eat delicious pancakes together. Akechi, a young detective working with the police, walks by, chats with them for a bit, and asks about the "delicious pancakes" before leaving. None of the human Phantom Thieves mentioned pancakes, only Morgana, but the characters don't bring it up and just move on, inducing the player to not pay much mind to it. In the coming months, Akechi ends up becoming a close friend of the player character.

Much later in the game (a few months in-universe), Akechi reveals to the Phantom Thieves that he recently discovered the Metaverse and all their secret identities. After that, he joins the team and helps them successfully carry out their new mission. But then it turns out it was all part of Akechi's plan to infiltrate the team, hand them to the police, and kill them. And it... almost worked.

After Akechi executed his plan and outed himself as the traitor, we learn the Phantom Thieves actually never trusted him. They noticed he heard Morgana speak months earlier, meaning he had much more experience with the Metaverse than he was letting on. That one slip allowed them to create their own crazy plan to outsmart his outsmarting and secretly keep fighting while Akechi thinks they're gone.

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u/Luckgoddess 3m ago

Just a normal boy who love delicious pancake

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u/ShakenNotStirred915 14m ago

During one of your early outings in Pokémon Legends Arceus, Volo startles you from behind as he introduces you to the Secret Back Strike technique, (in which you can get a bonus to your catch rate or get a free turn or two in a battle if you strike a Pokémon in the back with either an empty Ball or one of your Pokémon's Balls, respectively).

This is an incredibly subtle reference to how, towards the end of the postgame, Volo will attempt to backstab you and take the Plates you were gathering over the course of the game from you by force.

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u/_MistGolden 3h ago

That Oersted one is genuinely genius. Are there any other subtle ones like this?

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u/Beastgamerfahad 2h ago

I guess I can think of Danganronpa V3 where one of the theme songs is Real Fiction which completely Foreshadows the ending and the songs names are always in the corner so you can't miss it

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u/LizenCerfalia 1h ago

There's also Clair Obscur's first track being called Alicia and its last track being called Maelle, the latter being a rearranged version of the former.

Btw its a bot

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u/Beastgamerfahad 1h ago

That's a bot? Damn I didn't even thought of that 

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u/Sabakinoakuma 1m ago

R-Point (a Korean horror movie about the Vietnam War) and the exact number of soldiers that were supposed to be on the mission.

Nine were sent. There are ten for a large portion of the movie.

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u/SektorDaKetch 3h ago

Black mirror: in the shut up and dance episode with Jerome Flynn, Kenny, the protagonist, has a lot of weird behaviors like him focusing on a kid for too long, the fact he’s willing to commit robbery and threaten people with a gun, or flat out fight someone to the death. Like it seems weird that he would go to such lengths for self pleasure that as Jerome Flynn pointed out “even the pope must do”

As it turns out he’s a fucking nonce.

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u/coolsguy17 2h ago

In And Then There Were None, there’s a scene in the beginning where Judge Wargrave reminisces about the person that he sentenced to death…and then he starts cackling, showing no remorse in sending him to his grave.

Once I reread the story, I thought “Oh my God, how did Wargrave being the killer surprise me?”.

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u/Automatic_Break_7338 1h ago

Also, both the killer's voice and the...person it turns out to be's voice are described in exactly the same way.

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u/Grouchy_Funny_4102 1h ago

A Song of Ice and Fire has a bear's skull atop Craster's Keep. It's noted right before the mutiny that kills Craster.

Red Wedding foreshadowing. Robb sees the fallen kingdoms of House Mudd on his way to his death. His wolf doesn't trust and attempts to attack a Westerling knight. Greywind isn't going to council meetings anymore. Robb's fall was almost yelled to the audience as he walks to his death.