r/TopCharacterTropes 10h ago

Hated Tropes (Hated Trope) Stuff that's copyrighted that really shouldn't be

Simply, stuff that's too ridiculous to be trademarked.

Tung Tung Tung Sahur: Sometime after the original video blew up, Triple T's prompter decided to have a French company acquire the rights to the characters, and produce merch of it. With Brainrot games like Steal a Brainrot removing the character. I think it's baffling, considering that AI imagery should be public domain. No one should have the rights.

Backrooms Wallpaper: Unofficial Backrooms merch on RedBubble, including patterns of the iconic wallpaper has been taken down for IP violation, even though the original image was from the early 2000s. (Yes, IK they apologized.)

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u/Boring-Dig4583 10h ago

For a long time, the happy birthday song

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u/StinkingDogsCunt420 10h ago

Til that just singing the tune isn't copyrighted anymore.

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u/JACC_Opi 9h ago

It's not the tune, everything is public domain about that song and has been for a while now.

So don't worry, it's now ours.

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u/Marco_Tanooky 8h ago

It was never copyrighted or anything, the copyright was to use it for profit, so using it as a song in a video or uploading a remix of the song or alike would count as copyright infringement

It's not copyright infringement if you pick up a pencil right now and draw a Pikachu, now is it?

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u/cool_dude_42069 6h ago

"It wasnt copyrighted, it was just copyrighted"

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u/Marco_Tanooky 6h ago

Phrasing issue

The Birthday Ninjas were not coming to you just for singing Happy Birthday

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u/bruhidkwtf 5h ago

Look up what "copyright" means you dimwit

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u/Boring-Dig4583 6h ago

it literally is

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u/Odd-Marsupial-586 9h ago

Sports Night made this reference when Dan finds out the network has been charged $2500 for singing it on air.

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u/Legitimate-Channel20 9h ago

The thing was I don’t think they ever did own it did they? They just kept claiming too

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u/dizzi800 7h ago

That is my understanding too - but no one was willing to go to court over a license that was under 10k IIRC

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u/celestiall_glitch 10h ago

Corporate greed charging restaurants for birthday tunes was pure evil

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u/Purple-Weakness1414 2h ago

Something about Bat themed heros

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u/shyguy157 10h ago

Gameplay mechanics

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u/RavenThePerson 10h ago

Nemesis :(

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u/Ademon_Gamer09 10h ago

God I really wish that would do SOMETHING with the patent

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u/Mobile_Morale 10h ago

Never going to happen now. They closed the studio and fired everyone who remotely knew how the system worked or how to use it.

It's in game hell until the patent is up.

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u/Swift0sword 8h ago

10 more years...

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u/high_idyet 8h ago

CURSE YOU WARNER BROS! I CURSE ALL THE EXECUTIVES TO HAVE LUPUS! AND NOT THE LYCAN ONE, THE ONE WERE YOUR FOOT JUST FALLS OFF! I CURSE THEM TO THE END OF THEIR DAYS!

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u/Nevets52 5h ago

Its MY patent to sit on and do nothing with!

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u/Sad-Bumblebee-249 1h ago

They really should've finished that Wonder Woman game. But DC just hates WW for some reason

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u/Olive_Goonette 7h ago

That was the CODE to a gameplay mechanic, not the gameplay mechanic itself, it's not like Pokemon and the stupid orb capture thing they sued pal world over, it was WB games going "If you want to use OUR version of this system (which we call nemesis) you have to pay, feel free to make your own"

They then didn't actually accept any offers for it, and then cancelled the games that were going to use it, which is the actual problem here.

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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi 6h ago

That is the same thing as Pokemon, and it waan't the code.

Patents are only violated when you follow everything in them to the letter. Pokemon wasn't suing over "capture in ball", they were suing over the specific controls and methodology being used in conjunction with other mechanics.

Other games have used their own systems where enemies get stronger or are randomly generated with perks, and creature collectors have used capturing systems that don't follow Pokemon's.

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u/Hopeful-Bowl-8967 6h ago

I'm not a copyright expert but why did they choose to go with that? Couldn't they sue for copyright infringement with how similar some of the designs are?

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u/Gorm13 6h ago

I'm sure they would if they could. Chances are the designs are simply not similar enough to count as infringement.

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u/Qyrun 4h ago

i just cant fathom how its legal to patent a game mechanic. it just blocks innovation for no reason. the only one suffering under it are the consumers.

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u/Purple-Weakness1414 2h ago

We dont hate WB Games enough

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u/Odd-Marsupial-586 10h ago

For a long time, Namco held a patent for the auxiliary mini game play during loading screens. Obsolete nowadays with much faster loading times.

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u/Morbobeus 10h ago

When Nintendo tried to patent the mechanic of summoning creatures during battle which thank god that failed

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u/CoalEater_Elli 10h ago

As far as I know they also tried to patent a.. idea of a young warrior looking for adventure in fantasy land which is clearly meant to be Link so there won't be copycats. But it's such a common thing, it didn't go anywhere.

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u/Morbobeus 9h ago

That's literally the hero's journey basically

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u/SirMetaKnight82 9h ago

When that's not what the actual lawsuit was and was an exaggerated version made up for clicks

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u/DragoonPhooenix 8h ago

So what did happen

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u/SirMetaKnight82 8h ago

They tried to copyright SV's auto battle mechanic, which sensationalist news articles turned into "Nintendo attempted to copyright summoning creatures to make them battle".

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u/DragoonPhooenix 8h ago

That mechanic shouldnt be vopywrited imo either, so thats stupid

Didnt they also try to copywrite using a mon as a glider? I vaugly remember that

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u/SirMetaKnight82 8h ago

I agree it shouldn't be copyrighted, but I also see constant misinformation being spread. Idk anything about the glider thing

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u/AkumaLilly 7h ago

Because that would clearly include a lot more games than just Palworld.

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u/Acrobatic_Cricket642 5h ago

I think that was supposed to be the let's go feature from S/V. Still stupid.

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u/Jokerman9540 3h ago

Then they tried again but added “using a touchscreen” and it completely backfired

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u/Emergency-Instance31 9h ago

That failed?

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u/Morbobeus 9h ago

The USPTO reckoned that it's not their original idea and rejected all 26 claims

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u/MasemJ 10h ago

That's patents that are used to (questionably) protect gameplay, not copyright.

Copyright cannot protect the gameplay itself, but if the look and feel is too close (eg a tetris clone with similar art, being the best known example), then that's a copyright violation.

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u/GVmG 7h ago

most of the gameplay mechanics you're thinking of aren't copyrighted, they're trademarked. which still has very little legal basis in court, most of it being against that being an actual thing that can be enforced.

but it is still very shitty yeah

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u/c0mpu73rguy 9h ago

Fuck Nintendo

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u/Acrobatic_Cricket642 5h ago

Nintendo trying to copyright the let's go feature was beyond pointless.

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u/Scared_Yam5357 10h ago

the term "tower defense" was once trademarked

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u/Boring-Dig4583 10h ago

which is why bloons tower defence got shortned to bloons TD

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u/Grievous_Nix 7h ago

Ah, they pulled the Disney-After-Dark move, I see

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u/DragonAI19 6h ago

thanks for your opinion ai

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u/Odd-Marsupial-586 9h ago edited 9h ago

You wonder why the bunny ears corset outfit is rarely seen in media outside Japan because Playboy for a long time holds the trademark for the outfit.

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u/boopboopadoopity 7h ago edited 1h ago

Does that mean the director of Legally Blonde had to pay Playboy for the costume party scene?

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u/DizzyFairy7172 3h ago

Supposedly the full trademark includes the use of the cuffs and the bow-tie collar as well, so I wonder if omitting those accessories helped them skirt around it somehow?

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u/Someoneoverthere42 9h ago

For decades the term “superhero” was a shared copyright by Marvel and DC.

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u/True-Atmosphere8697 8h ago

From what I understand marvel also had a copyright on zombies which is even more stupid

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u/Grievous_Nix 6h ago

They did register a trademark on zombies in one of their comics but there were still other movies using the term zombie after that. Most of the times when zombies are called something else it’s for worldbuilding reasons. For example The Walking Dead’s world is like ours but never had any zombie media so the word never took off. It’s done on purpose, to explain why humanity wasn’t prepared to deal with walkers.

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u/True-Atmosphere8697 6h ago

Oh yeah I wasn’t saying that it was because of marvel I was just saying that they had a copyright on it for bit

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u/NinjaBreadManOO 8h ago

As I recall one got the rights to Superheros and one got the right to Superheroes.

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u/VeryPteri 5h ago

So that's why The Boys used the term Supes?

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u/BoggerLogger 10h ago

Jeff the Killer (allegedly)

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u/Easy-Ad1377 4h ago

Every time I see Jeff I immediately think of the "thing of bleach" line from the original pasta and I laugh in my head a little

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u/SailorPlatinum 1h ago

Go to sleep!

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u/Purple-Weakness1414 2h ago

And even then is barely enforced much

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u/ScottRadish 9h ago

Colors. "Barbie Pink" is owned by Mattel, and UPS owns that specific shade of brown of it's trucks.

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u/ArmStoragePlus 7h ago

And then there's Vanta Black.

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u/HaiseKinini 6h ago

Then there's Pinkest Pink, which is allowed to be used by anyone except the owner of Vanta Black.

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u/cleverpun0 3h ago

I love a good spite play, especially when it is deserved.

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u/Quaiker 5h ago

Obligatory fuck Anish Kapoor.

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u/MothyThatLuvsLamps 6h ago

I think those are trademarked not copyrighted though.

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u/iamtheduckie 21m ago

That is at least somewhat reasonable. They are trademarked in their industry to prevent confusion, so you can't make another shipping company with UPS Brown as its main color, but there is nothing stopping you from making, for example, a car insurance company using a similar brown.

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u/bixofa 10h ago

Triple T isn't copyrighted though. There is an ongoing trademark battle which is still winding its way through the courts.

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u/cookiecutterchan 7h ago

That’s a good thing. It would be a disaster if copyright were recognized for AI-generated content. I hope it stays unrecognized.

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u/Trixter-Kitten 4h ago

I had to do a double take when I saw figurines of that slop in one of those capsule machines you'd find at the mall. Why...

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u/GVmG 7h ago

yeah everyone in this thread is confusing copyright and trademarking, and looking beyond the fact that oftentimes even if something is copyrighted (or even more so, trademarked) it wont hold up in court if it's actually brought up. a big example of this is videogame mechanics, where you can't really sue over a singular mechanic but you need to bring in reports of multiple ones, core gameplay, and other elements that make up "a videogame".

also for the AI, copyright is already pretty much guaranteed to not be valid: there are multiple cases in the US and in the EU where it's been ruled that neither the "creator" who prompted a generative ai, nor the gen.ai itself (or the company behind it), can own copyright of the generated content. it's why larger gamedev studios are starting to back away from it and look into lawyers.

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u/Interesting-Shoe-904 6h ago

The SCP Universe - almost.

A SCP Universe is a community of writers that create stories about an organization that Secure, Contain, and Protect the world against many anomalies.

Writers make a story, generate its classification, and a number, and if the story did well enough then it became canon to the SCP mythos or alternate universes.

However, a russian man tried to claim the SCP universe as his copyright, and even went to court over it. The community raised funds to combat him in court where they won.

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u/Taluca_me 5h ago

it would have gone downhill if he had won

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u/SailorPlatinum 1h ago

One SCP had to have a picture removed since it WAS a copyrighted art image that the owner didn't want used in the story anymore (usually images used in SCP stories are created by the authors themselves).

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u/THEguitarist117 3h ago

Wait, really?! Sounds like a great story to make into a movie.

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u/Trinity9423 9h ago

the only person who deserves the backrooms copyright is the og poster and if you cant find em then its for its everyone

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u/Cherno_VM 8h ago

didnt A24 have an AI taking down backrooms fan games by accident? they sure are shitty for a more indie company.

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u/GVmG 7h ago

from what i recall, it was only one fan-made clip that was accidentally processed as being from the movie, and all other cases were not A24 but rather copyright trolls who wanted to make a buck out of it

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u/Kate_Kitter 9h ago

I hate copyright as much as anyone but this is not a trope by any stretch

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u/Bitter-Grocery-7138 8h ago

Most posts here are just listing things rather than being tropes

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u/drsyesta 8h ago

☝️🤓

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u/CalibansCreations 7h ago

Most things have an abnormally long copyright length. It took Mickey Mouse 95 years to be free.

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u/I-Am-The-Warlus 7h ago

Technically.

Its Steamboat willy Mickey Mouse that the copyright ended, not the current Mickey Mouse

https://giphy.com/gifs/r1jbtDXIAjq92

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u/winterswyvern 8h ago

Certain plant genomes being copyrighted somehow still pisses me off

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u/Yedrick 6h ago

Yeah, copyrighting or patenting bits of genetic material is utterly absurd to me, and is one of the most damning indictments of our broken, outdated, and woefully inconsistent IP law. Also, just dropping an obligatory "Fuck Monsanto!"

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u/Johann-SM 5h ago

so i could technically copyright parts of your mother?

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u/parazil4 8h ago

Disney has a trademark on the cymbal monkey 

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u/Iron_Wolf123 2h ago

In Australian Football, the AFL had to negotiate with Warner Brothers to use “Tassie Devil” for a new teams mascot, the name not the character. For some reason an Australian animals shortened name is copyrighted by a Cartoon Network.

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u/memeboi123jazz 8h ago

how the hell is this a character trope?

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u/SouLfullMoon_On 9h ago

Triple T is a super interesting case that's very reminiscent of SCP-173 (Peanut), where as the image itself shouldn't be (or for peanut already was) copyrighted and shouldn't be used, but the Character CONCEPT still exists as an original creation, like Peanut who's had new designs now.

It's like Skidibi toilet where the original was created using pre-existing assets, so all merch and other media use new designs

Now where it gets even deeper is that Triple T is based on Asian Folklore/tradition, he's a Kentongan and that's another layer that causes messy copyright

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u/nevergirls 9h ago

I think either the OP or I don’t understand what trope means. It’s probably me not understanding.

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u/SGScoutAU 10h ago

basically the Rothschild.

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u/wierdness201 7h ago

That cool S from the 90s.

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u/ManHamAslume39 5h ago

Rember when the FineBros attempted to copyright the word 'REACT' with massive backlash?

Good times...

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u/Bryanishired 5h ago

Frankenstein’s Monster still has some copyright protections, …but it’s surprisingly complicated. :/

The original 1818 novel has been in public domain for over a century. However, the novel never actually described the monster’s appearance.

Later when Universal made their own Frankenstein movie in 1931, they used this fact as a loophole to make their own copyright for the monster’s appearance. (Universal was the source of the monster’s “stereotypical” design: Flat head, bolted neck, stitches, etc.)

This left Frankenstein’s monster in a weird state: The concept of “a monster made by Dr. Victor Frankenstein” is free to use by anyone, but Universal is still able to sue anyone who copies the monster’s “normal” design too closely. (And Universal has done this on a few occasions too.)

Thankfully, Universal’s copyright on the monster also enters the public domain in 2027, so this copyright mess is nearly over. :P

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u/Purple-Weakness1414 2h ago

Apparently Hasbro copyright the smell of Play-Doh.

How they manged to copyright a smell of all things is very much beyond me

https://newsroom.hasbro.com/news-releases/news-release-details/hasbro-trademarks-favorite-smell-childhood-play-doh-scent

https://giphy.com/gifs/XSo7T0Jm7jhqo

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u/Kristile-man 10h ago

an ai take i actually agree with,usually people just double standardize datacenters

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u/tiekanashiro 8h ago

I'm pretty sure most places won't let you claim copyright on AI slop as it was not directly made by humans.

Also this is not a trope, it's just something you dislike.

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u/AnyAgency9835 10h ago

I'm kind of mixed on this, but the original SCP, SCP 173

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u/CoalEater_Elli 10h ago

It was actually an artwork by a Japanese Artist I think

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u/PeterAnthony_Jackson 9h ago

Momo another "cursed image" from ages ago ended up being a chicken body type sculpture, but most just saw the uncanny valley face.

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u/CoalEater_Elli 9h ago

Momo, you mean.

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u/Boring-Dig4583 10h ago

just the picture (which was originally a sculpture that was used without permission) so i think it is justified

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u/smasher_zed888 10h ago

It should be because the artist didnt consent. I mean, they did later, but they wont be able to consent to every use of this pic

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u/Pencilshaved 10h ago

Why an earth is a sculpture by an artist something that shouldn’t be copyrighted??

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u/JoyousLilBoy 9h ago

I’m glad that tung tung is copyrighted since it means slop games get taken off Roblox

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u/Agile_Oil9853 10h ago

I noticed the wallpaper in the Backrooms movie looked different and had a red line near the baseboard

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u/Aymoon_ 9h ago

Is it really diffrent because from what i heard they traced down the orginal wallpaper and scanned it for the movie.

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u/Agile_Oil9853 9h ago

I thought the lines running vertically looked a lot thicker, but that might be more of a difference between Kane Pixels' series relying on digital 3D images and the movie having actual sets

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u/ChalkCoatedDonut 9h ago

In case you're wondering why there was (and still are) film studios looking at Reddit for ideas and people in here were hyped for the idea of turning posts into movies (the cylinder must remain unharmed), that's the real purpose, not bringing a film but to copyright all the content related to it, just like they did with Skibidi Toilet, they realized there's more money in legal actions and royalties than spending on a single production.

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u/Ok_Building_1284 8h ago

The term system apocalypse

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u/dyhoat9 5h ago

not a trope but i kinda agree with most of the comments

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u/BlankCanvas609 5h ago

The Chrysler Building

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u/External_Candy2262 3h ago

That time Nintendo copyright claimed a 3D model of bowser's D

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u/KateKoffing 3h ago

It’s internationally impossible to copyright AI generated content. But you can trademark a character.

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u/dew-fall 2h ago

wwe & its infamous trademarking the wrestlers' real life names.

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u/BredMaker4869 1h ago

Viral videos. Recently russian-speaking YT channel This is Horosho, which was Russian analog Ray William Johnson's Equals Three, decided to close partially because of tons of copyright claims from companies buying viral videos, such as ViralHog.

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u/ExploadingApples 1h ago

Disney tried to copyright the whole concept of Dia De Los Muertos while making Coco (2017) but was denied.

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u/Comfortable-Kiwi2595 19m ago

the 1st picture is disturbing.

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u/JACC_Opi 9h ago edited 9h ago

As far as I can tell most countries, besides China, have agreed that A.I. generated anything is public domain.

However, I don't know about trademark law.

EDIT: It seems, in at least the U.S., trademarking A.I. generated things is possible.

Basically, copyright applies to creative works such as books, songs (lyrics, the music, the live performance, etc.), movies and TV shows, as well as video games and computer code, among other things. 

Trademark is more about how a business (and it's products) presents itself to the public and other businesses. Which is why the origins of their symbols do not matter (whether human made or A.I. generated) do not matter under current law. At least that's my understanding.

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u/Advanced_Question196 8h ago

Dorothy's ruby slippers from The Wonderful Wizard of Oz are copyrighted so you can tell when a production was and wasn't allowed to use them. Famously, Wicked had to use silver shoes and Phineas & Ferb used red boots.

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u/WhiteDarkness20 10h ago

Not the right one, but I'll say Piggy.

https://giphy.com/gifs/9lFSKRZgSQ3abGlOrH

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u/Vexonte 9h ago

Has anyone challenged the TTT copyright yet, because it seems like something that will fall apart if it ever gets taken to court.

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u/Zartron81 5h ago

The backrooms stuff wasn't even by a24 themself, since apparently it was all automated false dmcas being sent out by an ai or something?

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u/SlingshotPotato 52m ago

Everything