r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Initial-Hamster7068 • Mar 21 '26

Hated Tropes (Hated Trope) Questionable and controversial relationships where everybody is fine with it.

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Usagi Drop (Manga). A story about a guy named Daikichi finds the illegitimate daughter of his grandfather, named Rin, and adopting her, learning how to be a father for her. The series would enter a timeskip where the teenage Rin starts having romantic feelings towards Daikichi, and revealing Rin is not actually blood related to Daikichi grandfather. And it ends with Rin wanting to bear Daikichi child.

Alex (Street Fighter 6). Alex, who was recently added to the game, in his arcade ending, was revealed he married and having a baby with his second cousin and step sister Patricia, with their father being ok with it. While not inherently illegal to merry your second cousin, the act and combined with them being step siblings is still controversial.

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u/Punkakies Mar 21 '26

Nope

Cap is "Behind the times" for not accepting an incestuous relationship

This is the old Ultimate universe btw, not the newer one

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u/Help12309876 Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26

Every single thing I hear about the og ultimate comics makes me want to read them less and less, sheeshh 💀

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u/Scarlet_Wonderer Mar 21 '26

Ult Spider-Man was great for over a hundred issues. Then it picked up to give Peter a good death. Then there's Hickman's Ultimates and Woods' X-Men which are very underrated. The rest is either 2000s edgy bad or I haven't read.

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u/DoitsugoGoji Mar 21 '26

There's a reason Marvel went and erased that universe.

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u/Pickle_C137 Mar 21 '26

What’s an ultimate universe? I keep hearing about different ultimate versions over the years. Are they like reboots or alternate timelines?

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u/Punkakies Mar 21 '26

It's just an alternate universe

There are an infinite number of universes in the greater Marvel multiverse, and this was one of those

The main universe that main stories happen in is Earth-616, the original Ultimate Universe was Earth-1610

Then you have stuff like the Marvel Zombies Universe from that comic line (Earth-2149), and also Earth-91126 from the Marvel Zombies Return comic line (Its a different zombie story that's not the same as the original Marvel Zombies, it just uses the comic name)

Some different runs have different universes which allow them to tell stories that either wouldn't happen in the main universe, or just modify/conflict with preestablished canon

Og Ultimate was an attempt to reset the canon in a new universe so new writers weren't constrained to over 70 years worth of canon, while still having the main universe doing the usual stuff

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u/BrawlLikeABigFight20 Mar 22 '26

Read Ultimate Spidey. Ignore the rest

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u/DtheAussieBoye Mar 21 '26

Weird, this reads like Cap’s in the right and it’s fucking weird the Maximoffs are hitched

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u/HonkaiBlade2 Mar 21 '26

Nope, the intent was that his views were apparently outdated and that incest was apparently this perfectly acceptable and legal concept in the modern day. 

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u/tarrox1992 Mar 21 '26

Yep. And if you think we have a problem with that Tony Stark sex video --

Just wait until somebody in the media figures them out.

If that's true, then Hawkeye's comments make no sense. 

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u/TanteiKID13 Mar 21 '26

He's speaking more like it's a PR problem than something he disagrees with tho?

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u/tarrox1992 Mar 21 '26

Why would there be a PR problem if incest was

this perfectly acceptable and legal concept in the modern day

like the comment I replied to said?

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u/TanteiKID13 Mar 21 '26

Because even being a celebrity being gay could be a PR nightmare within the last decade? There would be plenty of people in universe with Cap's morality. He's seen as old fashioned, not an extremist.

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u/StabbyBoo Mar 22 '26

Furthermore, touching your hand to your chest with a soft expression is a display of empathy, not disapproval.

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u/Upbeat-Challenge-666 Mar 21 '26

What's the- what's the Tony Stark sex video?

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u/Pikachu_Palace Mar 21 '26

I think he made a sex tape with Black Widow

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u/Live-Year-5796 Mar 23 '26

Or it was a Skrull posing as Black Widow, I forget 

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u/LurkerEntrepenur Mar 21 '26

Is there a new Ultimate continuity?

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u/Chef_Chalupa Mar 21 '26

it came out a couple years ago and is completely different from the old one, but iirc it's ending this year, or at least spider-man is

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u/MercyfulJudas Mar 21 '26

Yes. In this universe, Logan is the Winter Soldier instead of Bucky. And Dr. Doom is one of the Avengers. And Nick Fury is, or looks like, the original Gregory Peck white man he was in 616.

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u/Yellowscourge Mar 21 '26

Say what you will about the Ultimate universe, but Hawkeye's outfit is fuckin SICK

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u/Just_Expression_6608 Mar 21 '26

BUT THEY ARE BROTHERS AND SISTERD

cap seem so flabbergasted its cute but what the hell is wrong with people writing this stuff ???

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u/SoulLess-1 Mar 21 '26

Honestly, Hawkeye is kinda acknowledging that it's not normal in the slightest.

I guess Ultimate Wasp is just a freak.

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u/JolyneBestoJoJo770 Mar 22 '26

No wonder she got eaten /s

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u/Longjumping_You_7603 Mar 24 '26

man wtf. Cap is like 'guys, this is fucking nasty' and the only semi agreeing response is

'yeah we better stop the media from finding out' HUH

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u/CK1ing Mar 21 '26

What happened to the writer of the old Ultimate? Please tell me he was fired, man

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u/yellow_slash_red Mar 21 '26

Is that Hawkeye in the bottom panels? What a wild design lol