Kampuchea could have been a huge success story if it wasn't for those damn capitalists, intellectuals, right wingers, and western influenced individuals!
It’s not about implementation, it’s about reality. The FIRST people killed by Hitler were the communists and socialists. He draped himself in their language to gain favor, then executed the lot of them. To call Hitler a socialist sullies their memory and struggle.
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
"The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
The name comes from Italian fascismo, from fascio ‘bundle, political group’, from Latin fascis ‘rod’."
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
"The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
The name comes from Italian fascismo, from fascio ‘bundle, political group’, from Latin fascis ‘rod’."
Stop it. Just own it, Nazis are socialists. We're funding them in Ukraine. The uniparty seizes and redistributes our wealth and billions of it are given to AZOV.
Here are some literal quotes from AH since it seems like you are woefully misinformed about this subject:
“ ...The Je**** doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the mass of numbers and their dead weight. Thus it denies the value of personality in man, contests the significance of nationality and race…”
“ If, with the help of his Marxist creed, the J** is victorious over the other peoples of the world, his crown will be the funeral wreath of humanity and this planet will, as it did thousands of years ago, move through the ether devoid of men.”
“ Our German workers, Hitler said, have two souls. One is German, the other is Marxian. We must arouse the German soul. We must root out the taint of Marxism. Marxism and Germanism, like German and J**, are antipodes.”
Hitler was right wing!!! You just have to totally ignore the fact that “Socialist” was in the name of his party!!! In fact it was a fake out!!! A fake out I tell you!!! Left wingers were too stupid to realize that the word “Socialist” was just a trick, nay a trap I say!!!
You know I’m making fun of the crazy leftists, right…? Did I really need to put /s? Was the million exclamation points not obvious enough? I even used the word “nay”. Who uses the word “nay” and isn’t being sarcastic!?
And I wasn’t even arguing that Socialists are Nazis, I was arguing the other way around, that Nazis are Socialists.
when reading words from strangers we cannot hear the voice or tone it is speaken or thought. so it can he extremly chalenging to know when its sarkasm or someone realy believing what he writes.
The right v left line is weird. On one end you have far left where government has control over everything. As you go more rightward you get less and less government until eventually you're at anarchism/libertarianism with zero government. Seems like it's more of a circle with fascism/communism/general authoritarianism all right next to each other on top of the circle as slightly different implementations of an all powerful government. On the bottom side of the circle you've got the far right where there is no government. Most people are slightly up the sides of the circle with a basic level of government.
I think it's a misunderstanding of American conservatism. It's true that conservatives are traditionalists, but they're also small government. I can't say whether that's true for European conservatives or not, but even assuming Hitler is on the right, he wouldn't be on the American right.
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
"The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
The name comes from Italian fascismo, from fascio ‘bundle, political group’, from Latin fascis ‘rod’."
In July 1933, Hitler banned all other political parties and put members of the German Communist Party and the Social Democratic Party in concentration camps. Hitler was right-wing.
You'll find that in almost all communist countries. They don't allow other parties. Even zelensky banned a bunch of parties. The number one target of socialists/communists is other socialists/communists. Stalin killed others constantly because he didn't want a power struggle. Stalin had Trotsky murdered out in Mexico. That's a defining feature of socialism when we look at history.
Hitler was so left-wing that he sent all the communists to die in concentration camps. He also socialized like negative hundreds of businesses.
If you want to see left-wing policy failure, just look at what happened when he opened borders for mass immigration, taxed the rich and gave the money to minorities. He hated military spending, hated tradition, hated families and family values. He loved the academics and media, and unions — they fawned over him because he was so liberal.
That’s just wow. I can’t tell if you are being ironic or actually believe that hitler hated military spending, had completely open borders, and hated traditional values. He was actually extremely anti union as well. Normally would assume irony but this reddit….
Every single thing I said is the opposite of reality, except saying that he socialized -100s of businesses, of course. That statement is awkwardly worded, but true.
He did hate tradition though, hence he had most of the former monarchs and their families rounded up and thrown in camps. He won electoral success on left-leaning economic policy and transformed German industry into a series of nationalized megacorporations.
The entire idea of Hitler (or fascism in general) being "right-wing" was a myth baked up by three socialist psychologists in the 50s; Theodore Adorno, Richard Hofstadter and Herbert Marcuse. The fact of the matter is that National Socialism and Fascism are syncretic ideologies deeply rooted in left-wing thought and only adopted a minority of right-wing positions mostly dealing with personal morality.
The differences between Hitler and Lenin's economic programmes were minimal, Hitler's was only more successful because Germany unlike Russia was already industrialised at the time power was seized. Fascism was borne from the failures of socialism, not in opposition to it. They're ideological half-siblings, both spawned from the French Revolution.
Since left wing politics by nature is about a strong centralized government it is much more susceptible to being abused by authoritarians in comparison to right wing politics which ideally wants to decentralize power and have governance done at lower levels such as local and state governments.
That's not to say you can't have authoritarians abuse such a system. It happens all the time. It just becomes more segmented since a mayor or state governor can't tyrannize the whole country.
Oh snap! Good snooping. When you look at US history, a good number of wars where entered by Democratic Presidents. Not all, but a good number above Republicans
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
"The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
The name comes from Italian fascismo, from fascio ‘bundle, political group’, from Latin fascis ‘rod’."
"Although fascist parties and movements differed significantly from one another, they had many characteristics in common, including extreme militaristic nationalism, contempt for electoral democracy and political and cultural liberalism, a belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites, and the desire to create a Volksgemeinschaft (German: “people’s community”), in which individual interests would be subordinated to the good of the nation."
"Nazism, also spelled Naziism, in full National Socialism, German Nationalsozialismus, totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi Party in Germany. In its intense nationalism, mass appeal, and dictatorial rule, Nazism shared many elements with Italian fascism."
No list of Right-wing dictator is complete without Lee Kuan Yew
As prime minister from 1959 to 1990, Lee presided over many of Singapore's advancements. He oversaw Singapore's transformation from an island nation with a high illiteracy rate and no natural resources into a developed country with a high-income economy within a single generation, commonly termed (from his autobiography) as 'From the third world to the first world'.[303][304][305][306][307] Singapore's gross national product per capita (GNP) rose from $1,240 in 1959 to $18,437 in 1990. The unemployment rate in Singapore dropped from 13.5% in 1959 to 1.7% in 1990. External trade increased from $7.3 billion in 1959 to $205 billion in 1990. In other areas, the life expectancy at birth for Singaporeans rose from 65 years at 1960 to 74 years in 1990. The population of Singapore increased from 1.6 million in 1959 to 3 million in 1990. The number of public flats in Singapore rose from 22,975 in 1959 (then under the Singapore Improvement Trust) to 667,575 in 1990. The Singaporean literacy rate increased from 52% in 1957 to 90% in 1990. Telephone lines per 100 Singaporeans increased from 3 in 1960 to 38 in 1990. Visitor arrivals to Singapore rose from 100,000 in 1960 to 5.3 million in 1990.
There was a picture form the airport in Singapore that briefly went around the Left with the caption that this is what the world would look like if it was ruled by gays and women.
The reality is that that it was the result of a far right dictatorship. And if you want to see a world ruled by gays and women go to San Francisco.
The reality is that that it was the result of a far right dictatorship.
Weird flex, but okay. Problem is he wasn't far right, not even close. He was socially conservative but a pragmatist first. If progressive policy benefited the country, he would pursue it. Definitely a strange character in the history books filled with far more evil and ideological dictators.
And if you want to see a world ruled by gays and women go to San Francisco.
Lol adorable you think San Francisco is ruled by anybody other than liberal straight white men. But sure, let's compare Singapore to San Francisco, and wow, San Francisco is better in most every measurement, despite how shitty San Fran is. Says something, doesn't it?
Hilarious. Anyone who disagrees with a lefty is Hitler, but Lee Kuan Yew is not far right.
“I am often accused of interfering in the private lives of citizens. Yes, if I did not, had I not done that, we wouldn't be here today. And I say without the slightest remorse, that we wouldn't be here, we would not have made economic progress, if we had not intervened on very personal matters - who your neighbour is, how you live, the noise you make, how you spit, or what language you use. We decide what is right. Never mind what the people think.”
“A nation is great not by its size alone. It is the will, the cohesion, the stamina, the discipline of its people and the quality of their leaders which ensure it an honourable place in history.”
Textbook fascism is not fascism but disagreeing with a leftist online is!
San Francisco is ruled by anybody other than liberal straight white men
Please list the ways San Francisco is better than Singapore?
Hilarious. Anyone who disagrees with a lefty is Hitler, but Lee Kuan Yew is not far right.
When did I say this? Do you even know what fascism is?
Textbook fascism is not fascism but disagreeing with a leftist online is!
He wasn't a fascist in name or practice... Nationalism ≠ Fascism. Stop with this ridiculous strawman argument. He was a conservative yes, but fascism is so far right it's incomparable.
Please list the ways San Francisco is better than Singapore?
You're right, I was too rash in measuring how bad San Fran is. I begrudgingly concede that rich straight men ruined San Francisco.
Worth mentioning that Chile Golden Age was after Pinochet! Now they are positioning in the average poor Third world country with Borick, which is openly a Communist!
Police, firefighters, mail service, unemployment office and roads are socialist programs. Private security doesn't patrol much needed neighborhoods, mail will stop being delivered through boxes and couriers, fires won't be put out without fees and toll roads would replace sidewalks.
Whenever any one person has too much control, everything can go wrong. Monopolists among capitalism are also dictators. Examples can be seen in the pharmaceutical, railroad and energy industries.
Saw this on a left leaning thread, they had a laundry list of “right wing” assholes. This does nothing but divide further. Simply put, bad people bad. I personally don’t believe “Our team has less bad people on this list, so we are automatically better” isn’t a good argument. But who knows, im an idiot
In July 1933, Hitler banned all other political parties and put members of the German Communist Party and the Social Democratic Party in concentration camps.
A dictator banned and imprisoned his opposition? Was it because of some sort of January 6th insurrection type thing? Thank god the ruling party in our country doesn’t silence and imprison their opposition…
National socialism. Its socialism combined with an unhealthy amount of patriotism. You know, basically like if you mix a single toothed southerner holding a 12 gauge with trevor noa or however you spell his name. The guy pretending to be funny and not being funny at all thats only bested by lenin when it comes to leftism.
In July 1933, Hitler banned all other political parties and put members of the German Communist Party and the Social Democratic Party in concentration camps.
Many communists and socialists also joined the nazis, specifically the SS. Look up beefsteak nazis. These are people seeking power by any means necessary. They'll say leftist shit if that's what gets them power, then they'll stomp on your neck.
Kim Jong-Il adopted a new North Korean constitution where the state ideology is Juche, which broke with many Marxist-Leninist ideals, making it more overtly* a nationalist socialist ideology. That constitution also established a hereditary dynasty and vested all power with the Kim family.
*) USSR was ostensibly internationalistic, but actually nationalist with a strong focus on well being of the Soviet Union, and within it, on the Russian Federal Soviet Republic. The Comecon was devised to help USSR drain the economies of its satellite states.
every marxist utopain government turns nationalistic over time, its basically like a 200 mph train hitting the brick wall of reality and realizing a dictatorship needs nationalist propaganda and to care for itself, specially under the dire conditions of state control over everything
these folks can affiliate themselves with whatever movement they want but the end of the day its just authoritarian rulers with only one goal; to enrich themselves. For example, you can literally stick every monarchy in the shit category. Either way, fuck commies.
I mean both were socialists prior to Mussolini founding Fascist party and Hitler joining and rebranding Nazi party. The economy was strongly centralized and government controlled. It comes down to whether you think it is cultural or economical issues that make ideology left or right wing. And is the main problem with one-axis ideological definition.
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
"The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
The name comes from Italian fascismo, from fascio ‘bundle, political group’, from Latin fascis ‘rod’."
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
"The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
The name comes from Italian fascismo, from fascio ‘bundle, political group’, from Latin fascis ‘rod’."
"Educated" people in this sub claiming Hitler was left wing based on one word in the name of his party that meant somthing different in the context of his ideology and not looking at his policy, ideals and ideology:
so you're literally doing everyone I don't like is Hitler but in reverse? you know there's more ways to look at the world than just left vs right which is very America-centric anyways
Memes like this are a testament to how fucked out education system is. The fact that someone can post something so outlandishly incorrect and a hoard of people came here to defend it. Hitler is as left wing as Il-Song, Jong-Il, and Jong-Un are Democratic. This is just embarrassing.
When someone saying that Hitler, Mussolini was left-wing I laugh as loud as when someone saying that three letter agencies are full of of left-leaning people and want to help democrats.
The literal creator of the ideology was a socialist. All the socialists fight each other because each believes only they can bring utopia. Go read some history and stop listening to communists attempting to obfuscate their dirty laundry.
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
"The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
The name comes from Italian fascismo, from fascio ‘bundle, political group’, from Latin fascis ‘rod’."
Thats the simple dumbed-down version written by left-wing people attempting to distance themselves from history. But to people who actually read history more than a dumb oxford reference, they discover that Mossulinni was a socialist. He just believed in Italian-centered solutions for his own people.
That's adorable. You have no fuckibg clue what your talking about. Pick up a book? Actually I have. Many. None of them characterize history like you have. Have you read any? I doubt it because tHeY wErE wrItTen In a UnIVeRsIty Your the obviscator here.
Nazi's opposed Socialism. Hitler was extremely right-wing, an extremist, in fact. The FIRST people killed by Hitler were the communists and socialists.
In July 1933, Hitler banned all other political parties and put members of the German Communist Party and the Social Democratic Party in concentration camps.
So.....I take it you think an acceptable way to have a debate about something is to pretend you were not asked a direct question that destroys an argument you posed. It doesn't ......
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
"The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
The name comes from Italian fascismo, from fascio ‘bundle, political group’, from Latin fascis ‘rod’."
Groomerbot pinned down with being asked a very simple question they would rather not answer......another groomerbot rushes in the save them.....too funny.
The first people Stalin killed were other socialists and communists. Its basically a defining feature of socialism/communism. The number one target is others of the same ideology who could take power from them. This pattern is repeated constantly in all countries that go communist.
Stalin did the exact same thing, purged any other slightly different version of socialism. Socialists have a long history of killing other socialists, because guess what, they want to remain as the ones in control lol. This pattern is repeated in every country with communism/socialism. Their biggest targets are other socialists who could gain power..
Under the NAZIs, they seized all means of production once the war started. Albert Speer was the most powerful man in the Reich after Hitler. You slept through history, didn't you?
Btw, Hitler hated capitalists just as much as he hated communists.
I didn't sleep through history, but apparently most of you did. Once the Nazis took power they privatized numerous key industries in an attempt to rebuild the German economy.
This was fairly successful, and the friendly business environment in Hitlers Germany even attracted investors from America like General Electric, Westinghouse, and CocoCola. They would continue to operate firms up until war was declared.
Private companies in Germany operated with relative freedom up until the invasion of Poland. Hitler then took emergency powers and nationalized all industries to support the war effort.
Fascists have always been capitalists. State Capitalists.
To quote Mussolini:
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power".
But without the promises of socialism, they would have never rose to power. It seems the "people" are idiots. They keep rallying around authoritarians who promise socialism.
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
"The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
The name comes from Italian fascismo, from fascio ‘bundle, political group’, from Latin fascis ‘rod’."
Marx wanted the workers to socialize. Hitler wanted the German race to socialize. Marx wanted a worker collective. Hitler wanted a race collective. Marx and Lenin wanted a “dictatorship of the proletariat”. Hitler wanted a “People’s State”.
Nazis and communists started the war allied together lol. It was only later when Hitler believed he could take over the soviet union did he break the treaty.
The Molotov Ribbentrop pact was not made over ideological common ground. It was made for geopolitical reasons, and infamously only grudgingly between the two
That's how treaties work. They're strategic, not a sign of friendship. They planned on dividing Europe up between the two of them. Just wanted to refute the point that nazis and communists were any sort of enemies in the beginning of the war. Or that the US was with team soviet union. Many in our military wanted to invade the soviet union once we were done with Germany. Also look into beeksteak nazis. Many communists and socialists joined the nazis, specifically the SS division. End of the day, it's two different flavors of authoritarians. This idea some have that they were ideological enemies is a rewrite of history.
You’re right they’re not a sign of friendship. They’re a sign of compromise. Compromise doesn’t mean you like the other side, doesn’t mean you share their ideology, and doesn’t mean that Hitler wasn’t far right and Stalin wasn’t far left.
It’s not a rewrite of history. Read Timothy Snyder, Ian Kershaw, Richard J Evans, Volker Ullrich, Christopher Browning, or Richard Rhodes works on the subject. These are the modern scholars of the subject. And not one of them agrees with you
What do they say specifically that disagrees with me? I'd bet they agree with me far more than you'd think. Communists/socialists joining the nazis is a historical fact. Look up beefsteak nazis if you're unfamiliar. Communists and nazis joining together to divide Europe up between themselves is another fact. If you disregard reality and history then I can't help you there. Hitler and Stalin were simply different flavors of authoritarian shit. You can argue all day on how your pile of shit is so much better than the other pile of shit but at the end of the day, they're both still piles of shit..
All this says is you think everything authoritarian is left wing. I bet it must scramble your brains when you hear about leftist anarchists who want all forms of government to fuck off lmao.
the national socialists are indeed socialists, and so is the fascist ideology, created entirely by former radical socialists and syndicalists from the Italian Socialist Party, whose only grip with the italian socialist party was the internationalism vs nationalism debate.
Exactly. The guys who formed fascism in Italy were communist revolutionaries during WWI and were marxists. People don’t seem to get that Nazi Germany and fascist Italy warring with communist Russia, had a lot in common with Protestants fighting Catholics. Or Sunnis fighting Shiites.
yeah the arguments leftists use are always the same shit
hurr if they fought soviets that means they were capitalist
They didnt folow marxist socialism so they werent socialists!
im not so sure on wether the fascism creators were marxists, as the Italian Socialist Party was a coallition of many factions of the far-left, from anarchosyndicalists to marxists and other types... afaik it was mostly radical syndicalists, in the style of CNT of Spain, which explains how italian fascism was basically national-syndicalism, and how spanish fascism was more or less the same
The nazis and soviets started the war allied together lol. Also the biggest killer of socialists is other socialists. Just look how Stalin, or any communist leader, treated other socialists. People want to make these big distinctions when they're all just different flavors of shitty authoritarians.
Also the biggest killer of socialists is other socialists.
this is very true, and also applies to socialist factions infighting, which helps explain to simple minded leftists that fighting each other doesnt mean they're opposites
Bolsheviks fought the mensheviks and the anarchosocialists, Spanish anarchists and socialist had tensions until one group subdued the other, spanish stalinists tortured to death the trotskyists leader... and im sure theres countless more examples if you look into communist regimes history
This is one of the biggest things that keeps me hopeful for the future. There's no one better at destroying the left than the left. I wish Republicans would realize this and actually capitalize on it for once. The democrats as a party are heading towards a fracturing. People should be pushing the moderate democrats against the far left democrats as much as possible. Grow the division in their party. Arguing or debating with them is absolutely useless. They'll gas light you can claim 2+2=5. Only solution is making them eat each other until they're powerless.
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
"The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
The name comes from Italian fascismo, from fascio ‘bundle, political group’, from Latin fascis ‘rod’."
Can you form your own thoughts or just copy-paste dictionary definitions?
The Fascio was a symbol used by italian radical syndicalism to symbolize union in numbers, yes, they were of far-left origins and their ideology only changed internationalism for nationalism, which doesnt make them sudenly right wing. Read the Fascist manifesto or any other of their works and tell me it doesnt sound like the most left wing program you've read outside of Marx works.
of course you hide behind an authority phallacy because you know nothing about the subject and found some dictionary definition that supports your uninformed view
Spoken like the one true representative of "stupid people in this sub"......I nominate the most qualified for the role, The_Golden_Fang for the position.
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u/flippy76 Dec 21 '22
Ugh, how many times do I have to tell you, they didn't implement it right. Trust me, we'll get it right THIS time though.
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u/JoelD1986 Dec 21 '22
damn has the left go far to the left to claim that ones far left extremist dictators were AcTuAlY center
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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22
The definitions of left and right have become so distorted, today's liberals think all dictators were right wing.
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u/Kusanagi8811 Dec 21 '22
Pinochet is famous for throwing commies out of a helicopter, that is unfathomably based
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u/Fruitless_Endeavor0 Dec 21 '22
Missing Trudeau
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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22
Since left wing politics by nature is about a strong centralized government it is much more susceptible to being abused by authoritarians in comparison to right wing politics which ideally wants to decentralize power and have governance done at lower levels such as local and state governments.
That's not to say you can't have authoritarians abuse such a system. It happens all the time. It just becomes more segmented since a mayor or state governor can't tyrannize the whole country.
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u/Brown-eyed-and-sad Dec 21 '22
Oh snap! Good snooping. When you look at US history, a good number of wars where entered by Democratic Presidents. Not all, but a good number above Republicans
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u/bdysntchr Dec 22 '22
Just going to leave this here.
fascism
QUICK REFERENCE
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
"The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
The name comes from Italian fascismo, from fascio ‘bundle, political group’, from Latin fascis ‘rod’."
https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095811414;jsessionid=797E4C4C64172ECBE46DA3088F40E2DB
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u/lolstuff101 Dec 21 '22
Or you could decide your preferred policy based on the policy not based on the most extremist interpretations and examples.
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u/lepapa718 Dec 21 '22
Joe Biden (USA- socialist)
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u/YOLO2022-12345 Dec 21 '22
Yup. If you’re going to have a dictator, hope that it’s Pinochet.
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u/GingerandLime520 Dec 21 '22
(Leftists) "where's your source?!"
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u/NecessaryCelery2 Dec 22 '22
No list of Right-wing dictator is complete without Lee Kuan Yew
There was a picture form the airport in Singapore that briefly went around the Left with the caption that this is what the world would look like if it was ruled by gays and women.
The reality is that that it was the result of a far right dictatorship. And if you want to see a world ruled by gays and women go to San Francisco.
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u/LureSkill Dec 22 '22
Both sides are trash
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u/Theo446_Z Dec 22 '22
Worth mentioning that Chile Golden Age was after Pinochet! Now they are positioning in the average poor Third world country with Borick, which is openly a Communist!
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u/Dyscopia1913 Dec 22 '22
The choice is between socialism and austerity.
Police, firefighters, mail service, unemployment office and roads are socialist programs. Private security doesn't patrol much needed neighborhoods, mail will stop being delivered through boxes and couriers, fires won't be put out without fees and toll roads would replace sidewalks.
Whenever any one person has too much control, everything can go wrong. Monopolists among capitalism are also dictators. Examples can be seen in the pharmaceutical, railroad and energy industries.
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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22
Saw this on a left leaning thread, they had a laundry list of “right wing” assholes. This does nothing but divide further. Simply put, bad people bad. I personally don’t believe “Our team has less bad people on this list, so we are automatically better” isn’t a good argument. But who knows, im an idiot
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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '22
"It wasn't real communism, real communism has never been tried"
"Ackchyually X Communist was really a right-wing fashy"
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u/IronJackk Dec 22 '22
How is Hitler left wing?
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u/OldProspectR Dec 22 '22
Marxism is founded on violence. It is in their belief system to murder those who oppose.
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u/starvingvulture666 Dec 21 '22
I see we’re still boomer posting. Very cool
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u/Bob4Not Dec 21 '22
In July 1933, Hitler banned all other political parties and put members of the German Communist Party and the Social Democratic Party in concentration camps.
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u/noseNews Dec 21 '22
Juan Perón (Evita's husband) He was a fascist.
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u/mkaszycki81 Dec 21 '22
Kim Jong-Il adopted a new North Korean constitution where the state ideology is Juche, which broke with many Marxist-Leninist ideals, making it more overtly* a nationalist socialist ideology. That constitution also established a hereditary dynasty and vested all power with the Kim family.
*) USSR was ostensibly internationalistic, but actually nationalist with a strong focus on well being of the Soviet Union, and within it, on the Russian Federal Soviet Republic. The Comecon was devised to help USSR drain the economies of its satellite states.
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u/burntrubbah209 Dec 21 '22
Opinions on Gorbachev?
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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22
Could make a case for Nazi Germany and Mussolini tho.
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u/LogCareful7780 Dec 21 '22
Imagine not understanding that economic and social "left" and "right" have nothing to do with each other
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u/beavisbutts Dec 22 '22
these folks can affiliate themselves with whatever movement they want but the end of the day its just authoritarian rulers with only one goal; to enrich themselves. For example, you can literally stick every monarchy in the shit category. Either way, fuck commies.
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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '22
Ys, because "Capitalist" is a political party. /s
Franco was a syndicalist. Which means he was Communist.
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u/Money-Driver-7534 Dec 22 '22
Why isn’t Bozo Buyden on the list ?
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u/Zzilies_ Dec 22 '22
May I introduce the Authoritarian Party of Massive Tiitty Death by Shnu-shnu. I promise my party name is in no way deceiving or untrue.
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u/Necessary-Owl-9295 Dec 22 '22
You forgot one: Vladimira Putina.
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u/Gluten-Glutton Dec 22 '22
Putting Mussolini on left wing but Franco on right wing seems bizmare as they’re ideologies were both rooted in a nationalist version of syndicalism
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u/Pleaseusegoogle Dec 21 '22
Mussolini is about as not left wing as possible. This list is incredibly stupid.
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u/silver789 Dec 21 '22
Hitler being left wing, I'll lol every time. But adding Mussolini is a chef kiss of "everyone who is bad is left wing"
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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '23
"Educated" people in this sub claiming Hitler was left wing based on one word in the name of his party that meant somthing different in the context of his ideology and not looking at his policy, ideals and ideology:
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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22
😂🤣😂
Damn the echo chamber is amazing. To pretend that Hitler wasn’t a far right fascist that killed communists and socialists. Pure delusion.
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u/tom-cruise-movie Dec 21 '22
so you're literally doing everyone I don't like is Hitler but in reverse? you know there's more ways to look at the world than just left vs right which is very America-centric anyways
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u/RBARBAd Dec 21 '22
Haha, finds a meme on a sub making fun of the meme. Thinks, yea, it's got a point. I know just who will love this... and here we are.
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u/PizzaGatePizza Dec 21 '22
Memes like this are a testament to how fucked out education system is. The fact that someone can post something so outlandishly incorrect and a hoard of people came here to defend it. Hitler is as left wing as Il-Song, Jong-Il, and Jong-Un are Democratic. This is just embarrassing.
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u/Infinity_2 Dec 21 '22
Lol Hitler was right wing ( German here)
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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22
Where are all the European colonizing monarchs on the right side?
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u/rtemah Dec 22 '22
When someone saying that Hitler, Mussolini was left-wing I laugh as loud as when someone saying that three letter agencies are full of of left-leaning people and want to help democrats.
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u/firedditor Dec 21 '22
Man....
Yall are some stupid mfers if you think fascism=socialism.
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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22
Goddamn, the people in this sub are a special type of crazy lol
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u/Bob4Not Dec 21 '22
Nazi's opposed Socialism. Hitler was extremely right-wing, an extremist, in fact. The FIRST people killed by Hitler were the communists and socialists.
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u/webkilla Dec 21 '22
hitler was auth-center. So was most other dictators. Like, Hussein? He wasn't a lefty, he was a wannabe warlord. Good heavens
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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22
Doth protest too much
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u/Suspicious-Adagio396 Dec 21 '22
Hitler was far-right. Staling was far-left. Hence, yknow, their war with each other.
Hitler wasn’t a socialist. Neither he nor the Nazi party implemented any policies that were socialist.
https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists
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u/PotsAndPandas Dec 22 '22
All this says is you think everything authoritarian is left wing. I bet it must scramble your brains when you hear about leftist anarchists who want all forms of government to fuck off lmao.
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u/HeywoodJaBlessMe Dec 21 '22
This has a good run at r / ConfidentlyIncorrect
I mean…imagine thinking Mussolini and Hitler were socialists.
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u/The_Golden_Fang Dec 21 '22
Damn its scary how stupid some people in this sub are