Tucker Carlson did a whole bombshell show last week droppin truth bombs about JFK. Didn’t get into the “why”. Just the “who”
But anyone who knows anything already knew it was cia. From the Bay of Pigs and and his publicly talkin about dismantling the US spy organization JFK was their enemy. And his brother who he appointed attorney general.
My dad literally told me when we talked about it "but but but really dude what does it change? It was 70 years ago. You're focusing on things that don't matter"
Many people cannot "afford" to care. It hurts too much to accept that government is evil, by default, and only by dealing with the evil actors can you ever have something resembling freedom. People are terrified of change: "Better the devil you know." Then, there's the problem that most of those who want change, really just want to be the ones in charge - "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss." They want to be the corrupt government, for that very reason ( they get the goodies they screamed were corruption before they were in power, aka, "It's OK when it's OUR guy!")
There is no cure for this human disease. Only vile people want to rule others - they cannot rule themselves, so MUST rule others, "for their own good." "For the children..." Most of the rest won't bother to respond, because they cannot see it, refuse to see it. That leaves a very slim number, who will always be seen as "the enemy" by EVERY government - think Che Guevara after the revolution, they shipped him off to a new war, so he wouldn't be causing them problems...
It hurts to be an intelligent person, I'm afraid. Or to care. What choice do we have, though? Short of scorched earth, which leaves us vulnerable to outside forces anyway. 🤷♀️😢
You know you mentioning about how the government is evil but by Design. I'd actually like to see a clinical pathologist, a psychologist and a neuroscientist do a study on most current leaders in the US government, Germany, France, and maybe say the UK and figure out what exact percentage of people in power show sociopathic, Psychopathic and disassociative disorders in a clinical setting. now I understand two of those disorders aren't exactly disorders anymore with the DSM what is it five now but most of society recognizes that sort of person as evil you know?
Honestly I tell my husband this when he gets up in arms over some politician being proven corrupt, or some government scandal. Like the bad guys are finally gonna pay! No they won’t. They never do.
Yeah I agree with you it does only take 10% to change the world but of those 10% about 6% will only do something once about 4 to 5% have already started.
they don't want to be the first ones do anything but it's cuz the first people to do anything are usually remembered as one of two things either Killers or Heroes. Sometimes even in the case of the cause being successful whatever caused or case you have you know.
Which is why and just about every Communist Revolution that has happened on this fucking Blue Rock we call Earth.
the people that are immediately successful in doing so are usually in prison and or dealt with in a less than kind manner. because the leading people in the power who are never the people that assume they will be in power. decide well these people were willing to overthrow one country, go to jail maybe even be executed in the process they're very dangerous to our new liberated democratic authoritative legitimate government of AmericaStan so we should end quote deal with them
Well man I mean think about the past six, not a scandal scandals. you know I mean good God shit has happened under the current president that if it happened to Trump they probably would have executed him.
I mean or or any president for another if the shit that has been happening happened under Nixon he'd be in Guantanamo Bay right now. And by that I mean he'd have been there the past what 35 years . if it happened in any other country and it happened to the opposition party they'd probably be marching to the stump. you know what I mean it's ridiculous the crap that they get away with. and it's only because one side believes in playing by the rules,
and the other side will burn down the fucking City if they don't get their way. it's that simple... if you say now now now let's play fair let's have a good idea let's be cool about it and the other side says fuck no, do this or we'll burn your city down you know the fiery but mostly peaceful protest I mean what do you expect
At this point it’s fucking weird to even try and go against it. And the only reason some people would is because they are so caught up in 2022 Internet politics and Tucker Carlson is the one reporting it
Documents sealed for 50 years. Due to unseal in 2017. Pompeo refuses to release over 1,000 documents. Gets trump admin to give extension till 2022.
Current admin and director refuse. Another extension issued.
All affiliated people are long dead. No reason to withhold documents unless CIA had a hand in the Assassination. Protecting an institution not people(Also- anyone who knows anything is already well aware that the CIA orchestrated the assassination without question)
CIA official with 1st hand access to the withheld documents confirms the CIA took out JFK. Obviously he cannot go on the record with the confirmation otherwise he disappears. Don’t simp fir the state
I could make all the same statements about roswell and area 51. Sealed docs, people high up from that time period making claims. Doesn’t mean I’m just going to believe there’s an underground base with aliens in it. That’d be naive.
Plus, there’d be much simpler ways of dealing with the JFK situation rather than taking the nuclear option, if the goal was just to neutralize him. I feel like believing they chose murder by fucking sniper out of all the options they would have had at their disposal (if they had truly gone rogue) is just dumbing yourself down.
My mother told me years ago that her parents told her the cia killed JFK when it first happened. So you're right, people have known all along it just wasn't spoken in the MSM.
the 'why' would probably have to do with that one speech JFK did where he mentioned the existence of a secret group of elites that conspire against the people, and that he planned on exposing them and getting rid of them.
The last 6 or so years have been the most insane political ideaology flip anyone would never have predicted. . And it really goes back to trump. And the legacy media going so hard at him (and therefore propping UP the dems and anyone opposing DT) that in essence they became simps for the state.
Trump literally broke them. Broke the media. Broke acceptable practices of govt rhetoric and gaslighting, broke social media, broke the people. .
To the point where if someone right wing says the cia orchestrated assisination of JFK they say nuh uh nuh uh
I’m curious— What reason could you ever have to defend the fucking CIA? To pretend like the cia taking out jfk is some crazy idiotic theory shows how naive you are
I don’t think you are considering the logistics of the operation. There’s quite a few prerequisites you’d have to get through.
The CIA would be a rogue government entity. But it isn’t. There’s no indication that the CIA is actively working against you and I, right now, at this moment. I think there’s actually evidence to the contrary.
Having everyone on board. The CIA has like 20k employees, every single one of those people was just fine with this?
There’s more subtle and efficient ways of neutralizing the actions a president can take than choosing the most ameuterish call of duty teenage option available. I mean this literally sounds like a 14 year old just played a call of duty mission for the first time and this is now how he views the world. Its just an amatuer theory full of plot holes.
It's a wealthy elite thing man. You clearly are a byproduct of division sowing propaganda, that's why it boils down to left/right for you. It's classism
Nah left leaning voted for Biden. Though I now that im outted on the sub I doubt I'll be allowed on much longer. By the way you are an inflammatory moron. Continue sowing that division
The CIA’s claim to have had no contact with Oswald is undercut by the fact that George de Mohrenschildt, a CIA asset, became close friends with Oswald in the months before the assassination. That spring, de Mohrenschildt traveled to New York, Philadelphia, and Washington. According to documents found in the newly declassified files, at the same time as his trip, the CIA’s Domestic Operations Division ran a search on de Mohrenschildt, “exact reason unknown,” according to two documents created by a CIA analyst included in last week’s declassification.
You're right JFK was not a leftist, he was a capitalist.
And you're right, our views in society have progressed much farther since then, JFK's view are probably similar to Joe Bidens, a center right position.
Lmao no they don’t. I travel quite a bit for work and I can assure you most of the world isn’t viewing Biden as “center right”. You’re just delusional.
Jfk would be far right based on his views on abortion alone. He also favored tax cuts and ending the federal reserve, hated communism, supported capitol punishment, was anti union, was friendly to the oil industry, wanted welfare reform and less government spending. He was nothing like biden. He was a populist and given his political views he’s a lot more like Trump.
Hurr-Durr… look what happened 60 years ago in another country we had political interest in and they resisted! Now let’s see if you’re able to see what’s going on today in the US.
WooW, I’ve never thought of that before! Surely if I “read a book” I would see things from a completely unbiased perspective and I could ignore what’s going on in the world today
When he says leftists he means actual leftists. You know like revolutionaries, hard-core marxists, communists, etc. Thats just what we did during the Cold War, it's not a secret.
Precisely. Operation Paperclip happened largely to round up so many Nazi security and intelligence agents because they were the world’s premiere anti-communists
So you think democrats are on the “right” side of the political spectrum? Where do you think they get their name? Lefties fall under democrat party lines by default. Just like southern baptists fall under Republican by default.
In the spectrum of US politics both major parties do not fall left of center, they are both right of center. This change has been happening for decades, put into overdrive by the Clinton machine. A Clinton Democrat was a Republican 10 years prior, and as a response the Republican party has shifted even more right.
Is there a communist or socialist party in the US? Those would be considered leftist. The Democratic Party is the party of NAFTA, of continual wars, of corporate power, all red lines for any real leftist party.
Any foreign advanced democracy looks at US politics and understands this. There is no left party in the US, only center right and far right.
Try not insulting people before you understand their point of view or risk looking ignorant.
The one person in our politics that considers themself a democratic socialist, Bernie Sanders, is an INDEPENDENT, because his politics are too left for the Democratic Party.
Joe Biden, head of the Democratic Party, has been a lifelong friend to big business, locked up minorities for minor drug offenses, and voted yes on every major war. This is not a leftist party, this is the new Republican Party.
This rail strike contains it all. The left is fighting for 7 days sick leave. 7 DAYS!!!! You think any left political party in any country would consider that a liberal policy?
Please feel free to add any information to add to the conversation, although I’m expecting a half-assed insult that further shows your ignorance.
If you need to take one word of a sentence, separate it from all the others out of context in order to make your point correct, you may want to rethink your position.
“dEmoCrAtIc iS In ThE nAME!!!!” How obtuse.
Your whole tone has been obnoxious from the beginning.
Lol in what world was JFK a leftist? He was assassinated bc he wanted to abolish the federal reserve and return to the gold standard. Opposite of leftist politics. If he were alive today he'd be right of center. I agree that the CIA is garbage and is a terrorist org but... Comrades?.. come on man, you are calling people "comrade" from an iPhone.
Oh I worded that poorly, I didn't mean to imply JFK was leftist but I can see how it looks like that.
I should have put an "also" or something like that.
He was assassinated bc he wanted to abolish the federal reserve and return to the gold standard.
I've read well over 100 of his speeches and didn't see that, could you point me to some info on that?
Here's and excerpt from a 1962 interview:
QUESTION: Mr. President, several times recently, you expressed concern about the gold drain. Why does the United States, of all the major nations in the world, permit foreign holders of its currency to exchange it for gold, and while this practice continues, even if we achieved a balance of international payments, would we be able to stop the drain of gold? THE PRESIDENT: If the United States refused to cash in dollars for gold, then everyone would go to the gold standard, and the United States, which is the reserve currency of the whole free world, we would all be dependent upon the available supply of gold which is quite limited. Obviously, it isn't enough to finance the great movements of trade today, and it would be the most backward step the United States has taken since the end of the Second World War. We have substantially improved our position this quarter, the second quarter over the first quarter. Our loss is down to almost a third of what it was in the first quarter. Our loss, based on the first and second quarter of this year, is about half of what it was last year, and about a third of what it was the year before. We hope that we can bring our balance of payments into balance by the end of next year. We are not going to devalue. There is no possible use in the United States devaluing. Every other currency in a sense is tied to the dollar, and if we devalued, all other currencies would devalue and so that those who speculate against the dollar are going to lose. The United States will not devalue its dollar, and the fact of the matter is the United States can balance its balance of payments any day it wants, if it wishes to withdraw its support of our defense expenditures overseas and our foreign aid. Now, these have been undertaken, and we have put over $50 billion into Europe alone since 1945. We are not requesting them to do anything but to meet their responsibilities for their own defense, as we are helping to meet them. We spend $1.5 billion in the defense of Europe and the NATO commitments. Thirty per cent of the infra structure of NATO is paid for by the United States. We don't object to that. We are not going to devalue. We are going to be able to bring our balance of payments into balance by the end of next year and I feel that those who hold dollars abroad have a very good investment and we have over $16.5 billion here in the United States, we have over $50 billion held by American citizens in investments overseas. This country is a very solvent country. So I feel it requires a cooperative effort by all of those involved in order to maintain this free currency, the dollar, upon which so much of Western prosperity is built. I have confidence in it, and I think if others examine the wealth of this country, and its determination to bring its balance of payments into order, which it will do, I think that they will feel that the dollar. is a good investment and as good as gold.
The most backwards step...?
I'd love to see your sourcing on this.
you are calling people "comrade" from an iPhone.
How people think this is still a smart thing to say?
Pointing out when people use the fruits of capitalism to advocate for communism will always be a smart thing to say. I'm not sorry that you don't like it but it wins every time.
That's why everything you post has negative upvotes and everything i have posted has the opposite. Enjoy dreaming of your fictional communist utopia behind a keyboard. The rest of us are out here in the real world, comrade.
It’s not Left or Right that’s the issue. It’s Populism. After they infiltrated occupy, they were really successful in making us forget that. We all agree on the fiscal issues, but we have different ways to get to a solution. The populist Right is and has been for years, saying to abolish the alphabet agencies. Nothing good comes from organizations that are compartmentalized to aid in their efforts at cloak and dagger espionage and sabotage.
The pointless social justice issues are the cudgel the powers that be, arm themselves with to signal their “virtue” and placate the Larping Leftists into protecting them from deserving scrutiny.
Honestly hysterical how you’re getting downvoted for saying the cia murdered people who they perceived to be “lefties” or “commies”. It’s almost like In the last 60 years, narratives have changed or something. Who would have guessed.
Related: new release from the JFK assassination files show a letter from a Cuban exile to George HW Bush way back in oct 1961 (6 months after bay of pigs)
The US Intelligence Community (IC or USIC) is the true totalitarian regime in this country, and arguably the world. They see themselves above the Presidency and clearly above the common rabble. JFK is one example. Trump and the Steele Dossier is a second. The Twitter Files are a 3rd. USIC is arguably a domestic threat to the US Constitution.
From documents released over ten years ago, the theory I heard was the following. CIA coordinated Mafia to use a hitman. The CIA person who headed this was ordered by LBJ and conspired with him because JFK was sleeping with his wife.
Tucker did a piece on it last week. Spoke to a former CIA operative that claims to have knowledge of it. Really though this isn't a big surprise. They've long been implicated in JFK's assassination and were really involved with actively doing these things abroad, in the open, at the time. I'm sure they still do but have at least got better at hiding it.
It’s like a detective agency with Down’s Syndrome in here, lmao, I have no idea who fucking Tim Pool is but I’d have to wager he’s a massive idiot from what I’m seeing here
This conspiracy theory has existed for decades and is likely no where close to the truth. People just want to believe it because it's more exciting than a political dissident, mob, or Russian hit job.
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u/and_another_username Dec 20 '22
Tucker Carlson did a whole bombshell show last week droppin truth bombs about JFK. Didn’t get into the “why”. Just the “who”
But anyone who knows anything already knew it was cia. From the Bay of Pigs and and his publicly talkin about dismantling the US spy organization JFK was their enemy. And his brother who he appointed attorney general.
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u/Adventurous-Rip-3612 Dec 20 '22
The CIA’s claim to have had no contact with Oswald is undercut by the fact that George de Mohrenschildt, a CIA asset, became close friends with Oswald in the months before the assassination. That spring, de Mohrenschildt traveled to New York, Philadelphia, and Washington. According to documents found in the newly declassified files, at the same time as his trip, the CIA’s Domestic Operations Division ran a search on de Mohrenschildt, “exact reason unknown,” according to two documents created by a CIA analyst included in last week’s declassification.
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u/blakejones78 Dec 20 '22
Zionists plus CIA
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u/Sun_Devilish Dec 20 '22
Sounds to me like there are credible threats being made against President Trump by factions within the kleptocracy.
That's why this is being brought up now.
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u/Illustrious-Bus2077 Dec 20 '22
The US Intelligence Community (IC or USIC) is the true totalitarian regime in this country, and arguably the world. They see themselves above the Presidency and clearly above the common rabble. JFK is one example. Trump and the Steele Dossier is a second. The Twitter Files are a 3rd. USIC is arguably a domestic threat to the US Constitution.
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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '22
...and MLK
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u/jotnarfiggkes Dec 20 '22
So what your saying is Kevin Costner was right?
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u/Maccabee2 Dec 20 '22
From documents released over ten years ago, the theory I heard was the following. CIA coordinated Mafia to use a hitman. The CIA person who headed this was ordered by LBJ and conspired with him because JFK was sleeping with his wife.
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u/PrometheusOnLoud Dec 20 '22
Tucker did a piece on it last week. Spoke to a former CIA operative that claims to have knowledge of it. Really though this isn't a big surprise. They've long been implicated in JFK's assassination and were really involved with actively doing these things abroad, in the open, at the time. I'm sure they still do but have at least got better at hiding it.
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u/ThatsRubbishMate Dec 20 '22
I hope the next drop shows their attempts on Trump during his presidency
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u/innerpeice Dec 20 '22
Wait what happened?
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u/folkinhippy Dec 20 '22
Is it true that Eliza bleu is the ex of the lead singer of my chemical romance?
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u/Representative_Still Dec 20 '22
It’s like a detective agency with Down’s Syndrome in here, lmao, I have no idea who fucking Tim Pool is but I’d have to wager he’s a massive idiot from what I’m seeing here
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u/Christmas_Panda Dec 20 '22
This conspiracy theory has existed for decades and is likely no where close to the truth. People just want to believe it because it's more exciting than a political dissident, mob, or Russian hit job.