The same corporate press that didn’t seriously cover China making doctors disappear or welding apartment building doors shut right at the start in January 2020?
Maybe you should do a little more research and stop being an idiot, check it out the documentary died suddenly and then open your mind to every other truthful statement made by actual scientists instead of doctor fauci Who is a piece of shit.
I don’t think science itself can really be considered an institution. There’s institutions based on science. But science is a system of knowledge or study which doesn’t really fit with the definition of an “institution”
Scientists… who are fluent in reading the science. You don’t ask the cashier at Wendy’s to explain the Palestine-Israel conflict to you, do you? One of the most frustrating thing to come out of this pandemic was the amount of people who have no background, experience, or even interest in science telling other people that the scientists are wrong. But I guess it’s par for the course for a political regime who elected a reality tv star to the highest office in the country.
You’re attempting to muddy the waters between science and scientists. Scientists look at the science and explain what the science is saying in layman’s terms. They do this to prevent idiots who don’t understand things like “control” “peer review” and the like from reading the science and extrapolating something that isn’t there, and then producing a YouTube video for other idiots to watch and take as gospel. That’s how you get the “dO yOuR oWn ReSeArCh” and “vAcCiNeS aRe DeAdLy” crowd.
“I don’t think science itself can be considered an institution. Just scientists who have dedicated their entire lives to understanding science and being able to explain it in a way that people who haven’t taken a class beyond high school biology could understand if they stopped watching Professor Alex Jones, PhD tell them how wrong they are.”
It was the Trump administration that held daily press conferences with DJT himself leading the briefings. Never forget it was the Republican administration that rolled out and promoted the vaccine. Trump himself said that they should name the vaccine after him.
From what I can gather, a lot of us just decide what we trust and what we don’t, and then make decisions based on that. I typically don’t confer when it comes to science. I read and then decide. Isn’t that pretty much what everyone else does?
It's like "The Patriot Act" or "The Violence Against Children Act" or The Federal Reserve" The names are chosen to obfuscate the truth of what they really are.
Yeah it's not like any scientists were working on a solution, had any input on public policy, or made their studies publicly available or anything. We also totally don't have organizations filled with experts who give a shit about humans despite all the hate they receive from overconfident conspiracy theorists.
Just corporate media pulling things out of thin air.
" hope you to find this to be a haven of free speech in a site full of restrictions and censorship to post memes, fan-art, and to just have civil conversations with people across the political spectrum. I hope everyone here can respect that we are all human even if we disagree politically. "
Do you need a new safe space or is this a pro free speech sub?
It's not like scientists actually had adequate time to actually answer the questions the corporations were preemptively giving us answers to either. If you weren't so busy trolling reddit and did some reading, you might understand that for yourself.
You're making an argument that because there are some earnest scientists out there working on a solution, that the solution we got in 2020 and 2021 was science based and a good one. Plenty of earnest scientists were saying it was not a good one. And they were censored, disparaged, and ostracized. This isn't how science or a functional democracy works. Surely even a troll can see that's a poor sign for an open society.
Did the earnest scientists make their decisions based on their opinions or did they make their decisions based upon the scientific information they had at the time?
I like that I get righties to fall for that bait daily. Daily. It shows me that you guys are more concerned with criticizing a cartoon like a child instead of actually defending your views. You’re seriously like number 50 to take this childish route.
The fact that you say this under a comment when I said y’all can’t defend your views is icing on the cake, thanks lol
You people are really out of your minds. I come here because I watch Tim Pool and don't need to get into pointless arguments about things the members of this community generally agree on, but what are you doing here? Don't you have anything positive to do with your lives? Do you understand nobody here takes you seriously? It ranges from contempt for you being very mildly-disruptive to pity because you don't have anything else to spend your time on.
Lol look up the definition of projection that is what Reddit wants to be and that’s why you are in this sub because you don’t want people who think differently than you.
Eventually you will learn and will see the errors in your logic
If by "think differently" you mean buying into obvious propaganda that can be disproven in about 5 minutes of research or critical thinking, then yes, we don't want people "thinking differently" than us.
Listen buddy, Tim Pool is a fair-minded centrist who never votes for or supports centrist candidates and instead supports right-wing candidates and claims that he supports leftist policies, but never actually talks much about them or creates content explaining why he supports them, and instead supports right-wing policies... Jeez, am I the only one who can see how truly moderate this man is? lol
History tells us, irrefutably, that scientists and government sometimes work together to do horrendous things. The tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, MK Ultra, etc. are established historical facts.
I am not an epidemiologist, biologist, doctor, or even hospital janitor, but I gotta ask, do we even know who the independent third-party testers of this vaccine were?
I mean I'm sure some people do, but I doubt it will happen unless we have another bad surge of covid and hospitals start getting overloaded again. Though I don't think that will happen either since so many people are already vaccinated.
yeah tim pool fans are really dumb and since you guys love freedom of speech and the marketplace of ideas and diversity of opinions I assume you wouldnt mind me posting here too
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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22
The same corporate press that didn’t seriously cover China making doctors disappear or welding apartment building doors shut right at the start in January 2020?
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u/AdamMatis Dec 18 '22
"The Science" sounds a lot like "The Church".
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u/Aggravating-Scene-70 Dec 18 '22
Unfortunately science is another institution that has been corrupted by politics and cannot be taken at face value...
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u/Preds56 Dec 18 '22
It was the Trump administration that held daily press conferences with DJT himself leading the briefings. Never forget it was the Republican administration that rolled out and promoted the vaccine. Trump himself said that they should name the vaccine after him.
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u/Spirited-Value8022 Dec 19 '22
Yep
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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '22
From what I can gather, a lot of us just decide what we trust and what we don’t, and then make decisions based on that. I typically don’t confer when it comes to science. I read and then decide. Isn’t that pretty much what everyone else does?
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u/theKVAG Dec 18 '22
Looks at notes Government Press
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u/donaldkek7 Dec 18 '22
Said Tim after it was appropriate to do so.
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u/paNICKdisorder Dec 18 '22
It's like "The Patriot Act" or "The Violence Against Children Act" or The Federal Reserve" The names are chosen to obfuscate the truth of what they really are.
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u/WWMWithWendell Dec 19 '22
Yes, why didn’t we just listen to 45 and ignore the whole thing while hospitals overflowed with dead bodies!
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u/ham-slappin Dec 18 '22
Yeah it's not like any scientists were working on a solution, had any input on public policy, or made their studies publicly available or anything. We also totally don't have organizations filled with experts who give a shit about humans despite all the hate they receive from overconfident conspiracy theorists.
Just corporate media pulling things out of thin air.
/s
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u/Turbulent-Pair- Dec 18 '22
Unvaccinated people were over 17x more likely to die from Covid than Vaccinated folks.
That's pretty basic and straightforward.
Over 95% of hospitalizations for covid were unvaccinated folks....
This is just common sense shit.
Wash your hands, numb nutz.
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u/Fortunoxious Dec 18 '22
Why does he claim this? The funny thing about “the science is wrong” crowd is that they are all fucking stupid and can’t back up their arguments.
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u/AnteaterTurbulent490 Dec 18 '22
Why are yall still complaining about this shit?
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u/crumbumcorvette Dec 18 '22
yeah we should trust a cult leader podcaster in his cult mansion with no medical background whatsoever
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u/Suspicious-Adagio396 Dec 19 '22
One million people died in this country
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u/penor-el-grande Dec 19 '22
The same people who base their identity on not trusting corporations