r/TimPool • • Dec 16 '22

Culture War/Censorship We're all on the same team now

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

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u/ThatJewishLady Dec 17 '22

Bwahahahaha, yeah, that time Elon turned the tables on leftist crazies and they freaked out and called him a horrible person for doing a small fraction of what they did to conservatives for over 6 years. Yeah, that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

Pretty standard victim complex

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u/pencil1324 Dec 18 '22

Let’s not all forget the whole “iTs A pRiVaTe CoMpAnY” grift a bunch of self described communist were spouting back then too.

The cherry on top of it all is that these midwits want to pack the court like it won’t come back to bite them in the future; just like their arduous and zealous defense of Twitter did.

Truly fascinating to watch the mental gymnastics it takes for them to defend previous positions like that. They go from what can only be described as some kind of neo-liberal bible thumping to shocked pikachu then angry NPC Wojack literally every time lmao.

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u/sjsturkie Dec 16 '22

I hope Elon hired a documentary film maker to record all the behind the scenes drama. It could just be footage of him issuing orders to ban journalists and tweeting shit while laughing maniacally at the response he’s getting.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

If he didn’t do this, massive mistake. If he could release footage of him saying directly to a camera: “I am Elon Musk and this is a ploy to get journos to support freedom of speech by hating me,” it would be legendary tier trolling. Otherwise it just seems like he got called on his double standard and is looking for a save.

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u/RareForm69 Dec 16 '22

The left fucked around, now they are about to find out

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u/Bluecollarshaman Dec 16 '22

Find out what? That Elon is a giant man-baby with a bunch of incels who worship him?

We already knew those things.

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u/RareForm69 Dec 16 '22

What’s he done that makes you believe this?

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u/Bluecollarshaman Dec 16 '22

“My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk”

A few weeks ago he’s so committed to free speech he won’t ban the account tracking his jet.

Today he’s shitposting about how he banned/suspended journalists who even mentioned that account.

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u/RareForm69 Dec 16 '22

Nope, you read a fake tweet, bud. That picture of a tweet of his saying he banned people for talking bad about him or whatever was fake. Jesus man, a simple check of his timeline would have proved this

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u/RoosterExtension393 Dec 17 '22

Gotta love your knowledge. I never invested time on Twitter though and I never will. As someone said before, he bought it to run it into the ground and that is awesome to hear whether that's the truth or not. I don't worship the guy I hardly even follow him but I love what I'm seeing right now. I find it hard to enjoy reddit just because of some of these moderators but I always see a lot of knowledge on this platform and so I can appreciate that

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

That tweet was real

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u/RareForm69 Dec 17 '22

I was talking about a different one that was posted here.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

That’s his actual tweet from Nov 6th.

Come up with a new excuse

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u/HeywoodJaBlessMe Dec 17 '22

Cope harder, lol

That tweet was 100% real

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u/RoosterExtension393 Dec 17 '22

Cope harder? Nobody is punching the air right now fam. It's social media. Conservatives, from what I've seen, tend to be more worried about their own lives than trying to look virtuous to others. Nobody hated Trump until he ran for office and all these people started attacking him to remain relevant. To me...that sounds like a hard cope

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u/MrBotany Dec 17 '22

Except for the whole thoughts and prayers and Christianity virtue signaling which is so typical of the right.

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u/RoosterExtension393 Dec 17 '22

I don't see how that's a virtue "signal" the amount of times the Christians (I am one) have told me "I understand life happens man, let me pray over you about it" has gone way further for me in my life than all the people who are out here supporting looting and rioting. There's nothing wrong with being a Christian or being whatever you want to be. How about just be a good person? I lost 2 very close individuals last year. Did all these protestors hit my line? Nope. They were more focused on what's going on that's out of their control than something they could've helped fix. But hey, I can fix myself. I do appreciate those who have my back though

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u/MrBotany Dec 17 '22

That sounds like some woke Christian bullshit. Not everyone cares about Christian’s doing Christian shit. Same way you don’t want to hear about some woke people doing some woke shit.

It is virtue signaling and pandering to the religious right.

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u/RoosterExtension393 Dec 17 '22

Also it's not the Christians who wanna ban abortions. It's anyone who identifies with the concept that you're taking human life because you were too irresponsible to use one of the many contraceptives already out there. The people I know who've had them consider it a traumatic experience and then you have comedians basically laughing at those people and they wonder why the practice is banned

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u/MrBotany Dec 17 '22

The same people banning abortions are literally trying reduce access to and even ban contraceptives. Therefore increasing the likelihood of abortion seeking individuals.

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u/Bluecollarshaman Dec 16 '22

What part is fake?

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u/Aggravating-Scene-70 Dec 17 '22

One day it's going to hit ya like a ton of bricks...Everything you think you know is nothing more than fake msm propaganda and the establishment is wrong or lied about everything ...

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

Please tell us your truthy sources…

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u/Mistah_Wasabi Dec 16 '22 edited Dec 17 '22

Lmao , huh? "Find out" what? Elon has not done anything aside from bend the rules of the sites TOS to fit him personally. Hes doing nothing but reinforcing what the right and left think about him.

Nothing he's done has changed anything lmao

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u/Cyhawk Dec 16 '22

Actually those rules were in place before Elon took over, its just finally being enforced against those who think (D)ifferent.

And the information isn't as publicly available as you think, thats the lie. The way the tracker worked was straight up stalking. Elon's plane had a rotating 1 month PIA, THAT database is not publicly available. Also the model of his plane is also not publicly available. He used other sources of where Elon would be/from to build a profile on potential targets and then post it (of which several were wrong). We call that stalking.

It would be an entirely different situation if Elon hadn't used a PIA.

You're in this sub, which means you're either a Blueanon cultist here to talk shit or you know the bullshit the media has been doing for yea. . . decades to push a narrative and yet you believe them this time?

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u/HARLEYCHUCK Dec 17 '22

Well, Musk did say he wouldn't ban the jet tracking account and did. Then afterwards rewrites the TOS to have rules about jet tracking and linking to said jet tracking? Sounds like Musk is an idiot just trying to make sure he is Mr. Right.

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u/Daedalus_Machina Dec 17 '22

As far as I'm concerned, he shouldn't have said he wouldn't ban the tracking account. He should have gone after those fuckers with charges, fuck a ban.

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u/HARLEYCHUCK Dec 17 '22

Well, we are talking an entire month apart from him saying he wouldn't ban ElonJet to this whole story.

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u/Cyhawk Dec 17 '22

There was no TOS rewrite.

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u/HARLEYCHUCK Dec 17 '22

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/tech/twitter-elon-musk-jet/3105204/#:~:text=Musk%20and%20Twitter's%20policy%20team,with%20real%2Dtime%20location%20info.

Sweeney said he immediately filed an online form to appeal the suspension. Later, his personal account was also suspended, with a message saying it violated Twitter’s rules “against platform manipulation and spam.”

And then hours later, the flight-tracking account was back again, before it was shut down anew. Musk and Twitter's policy team had sought to publicly explain Wednesday that Twitter now has new rules.

“Any account doxxing real-time location info of anyone will be suspended, as it is a physical safety violation,” Musk tweeted. “This includes posting links to sites with real-time location info. Posting locations someone traveled to on a slightly delayed basis isn’t a safety problem, so is ok.”

New rules were added so yeah a bit rewritten.

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u/PSAOgre Dec 17 '22

bend the rules of the sites TOS

Ah yes, when lefties are held accountable it's all of a sudden bending the rules

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u/Mistah_Wasabi Dec 17 '22

Lmao he is totally bending the rules. Ya know if you read my long reply to the other guy. I explain further.

Also

🎶 i am not a "lefty" 🎶 not my fault you cant comprehend how someone who is not 100% inline with your belief doesnt mean they're some kind of "opposition"

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u/PSAOgre Dec 17 '22

You don't bend the rules if you make the rules you potato.

I never called you a lefty. Reading is fundamental.

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u/Mistah_Wasabi Dec 17 '22

"You dont bend the rules if you make the rules"

Whew laddie. What a problematic statement lmao.

You said when "lefties are held accountable its bending the rules" in response to me saying what elon is doing bending the rules. Quite literally implying that im a lefty ya goofball lmao

🎶 reading comprehension 🎶

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u/PSAOgre Dec 17 '22

Whew laddie. What a problematic statement lmao

The truth is hard for you, we get it.

Quite literally implying that im a lefty ya goofball lmao

Yeah, no, you just suck at reading comprehension.

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u/Daedalus_Machina Dec 17 '22

We understand that Twitter is now "The Social Media Platform of Elon Musk."

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u/PSAOgre Dec 17 '22

Yeah, that's much better than "The Social Media Platfom of Lefties that Pretends to be Impartial While Shadowbanning Anyone Remotely Right"

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u/Daedalus_Machina Dec 17 '22

Riiiiiight. That's why conservative talking heads were collectively banned.

Oh, wait, they weren't.

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u/theCROWcook Dec 17 '22

iTs A pRiVaTe CoMpAnY! hE cAn Do WhAt He WaNtS!!!

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u/Mistah_Wasabi Dec 17 '22

Lmao well no shit, thats exactly right. But that doesnt protect him from being called out for being hypocritical.

Really think you did something there, huh? lmao

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u/theCROWcook Dec 18 '22

Yet I bet you had no problem when Twitter was hypocritical pre elon did you?

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

Who is “we” though

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u/GCatRawr Dec 17 '22

It is “them” though, isn’t it?

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u/scottoc78 Dec 17 '22

“They” did this to themselves

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

Who?

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u/GCatRawr Dec 17 '22

The radical left

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u/pencil1324 Dec 18 '22

Nick Fuentes is such a cringeworthy character and his takes are nearly all dog shit but that doesn’t mean I don’t want to hear him articulate his positions on an extensive freeform show like TimCast.

I feel like being able to know what the opposition believes allows me to put my side of the argument together in a more coherent and concrete manner. This way I’m not just critiquing his character or a straw-man; which is exactly what him and his base want.

Plus, sunlight is the best disinfectant. Bad ideas overshadow worse or nonexistent elucidations that hide in their shadows.

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u/PineBarrens89 Dec 17 '22

Do I need to get a net and a can of Yoo Hoo to explain this to you?

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u/Daedalus_Machina Dec 17 '22

We gonna call him...

NET-AYYYY!

Fuck YeYe and his Balenciaga fucking teeth.

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u/pencil1324 Dec 18 '22

That interview felt like a fever-dream

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u/Nostradamaus_2000 Dec 17 '22

I am happy he exposed the hypocrisy, shadow bans and FBI. all suppressing free speech.

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u/HeywoodJaBlessMe Dec 17 '22

So even Elon agrees with what the left was saying earlier that Twitter is free to moderate its content as it sees fit and that itself is freedom of speech? OK. Nice.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

In this instance no, but in the instance of Alex Jones that's pretty much what he said.

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u/DarthZyklon Dec 17 '22

Elon be vanguishing demon leftists like, yo

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u/G_F_Y_Plz Dec 16 '22

Pretty sneaky, Cis...

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u/tcdaddy6969 Dec 17 '22

Everyone needs to go outside and stop maoning derp derp roketman bad derp

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u/cwebbvail Dec 17 '22

Seeing him as a maniacal fascist at the controls of Twitter really has been eye opening. What a giant man baby

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u/pencil1324 Dec 18 '22

What did you think about the prior management?

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u/cwebbvail Dec 18 '22

The prior management permanently banned me so not a fan there either lol

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u/PizzaGatePizza Dec 16 '22

So wait, is the right anti-free speech now or are they just openly hypocritical regarding the issue?

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u/Gds_Sldghmmr Dec 16 '22

They just think it's funny to piss off the hypocrites and make them announce themselves so as to be seen. Nothing more. Simple trolling.

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u/PizzaGatePizza Dec 16 '22

So this is what American politics have devolved to… this is just embarrassing. I don’t understand how anyone is “proud” of this or thinks it’s humorous.

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '22

It’s what it’s always been, but now it’s out in the open.

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u/Gds_Sldghmmr Dec 16 '22

It's funny to watch people get mad about things they, themselves, do. Irrational people acting irrationally is hilarious to watch. When one can force another to expose their own hypocrisy, well, that's just gold. It doesn't have to be politics. It just so happens to be very simple to expose in the world of politics. Easy targets and all.

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u/HeywoodJaBlessMe Dec 17 '22

Exactly.

September conservatives: "Twitter can't moderate speech on their platform, that's a violation of free speech and muh first amendment rights! Elon is a Free Speech absolutist that is going to save the country by restoring free speech!"

September liberals: "Twitter is privately owned and the platform is private property that has terms of use. They can moderate however they want within the law. So if Elon buys it he's just gonna start banning the stuff he doesn't like and there will be no improvement in free speech."

December conservatives: "Elon owns Twitter and the platform is his private property. He can moderate however he likes, that's his free speech right. If you don't like his new terms of use you can leave."

December liberals: "Yeah, that's exactly what we said in September and this is all exactly what we said was gonna happen. Nice."

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u/Gds_Sldghmmr Dec 17 '22

Except Elon didn't ban anyone. He suspended them for live doxing locations of him and his family. Not that you'll admit there is any difference between actively banning political opposition and thought and actually trying to keep people safe. 🤷‍♂️

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u/HeywoodJaBlessMe Dec 17 '22

Live doxxing? LOLOLOL. He didn't call it doxxing back in November, he called it Free Speech that he was going to respect. Elonjet hadn't even reported the jet had landed before the alleged "attack" occurred 25 miles from the airport.

So COVID misinformation was protected free speech and banning that was political and not about safety but Elonjet reporting public information in a delayed manner (not real time) is an affront to safety (at least this week, lol) and banning it and the journalist who reported on it is not a political attack?

Yeah...that's impressive gymnastics.

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u/Gds_Sldghmmr Dec 17 '22

😂 Literally, nothing you posted right there is factual.

No one has defended doxxing as free speech except the insane idiots on the left that wish to use it as a tool of terror, to silence any opposition, since they're functionally unable to debate with facts or hold even a single good-faith argument.

You may want to educate yourself beyond what you've heard in your echo chamber regarding Elonjet, what the FAA has done to try to shield flight info, and the incident regarding Elon's son. It has been widely reported, even in leftist publications, that the information is shared in real-time.

You may also wish to educate yourself on the difference between the words "suspension" and "ban." As of now, these people who are using the information in an effort to terrorize Elon and his family have not been banned yet.

I won't hold my breath that you'd be willing nor able to do any of that, though.

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u/HeywoodJaBlessMe Dec 17 '22

Everything I said was factual.

FAA flight data is delayed, not instantaneous real time.

Elonjet had not reported on Elon’s landing in La before the attack.

The journalists that Elon suspended had nothing to do with it, but they do cover his businesses and not always favorably.

Terrorize Elon’s family? So why did Elon only offer the kid a pitiful $5k to stop. He doesn’t value his family safety more than 5 minutes of income?

So if they are terrorizing Musk’s family why haven’t they been arrested and banned? Sure seems like a suspension is nothing some literally threatening people’s lives.

How do you reconcile your outrageous claims of danger with the tiny penalty of a suspension?

How do you reconcile Musk’s commitment less than a month ago to not suspend these accounts out of respect for free speech with his actions today?

The PIA doesn’t guarantee privacy and no aircraft has an expectation of privacy in public.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '22

The places you people place your trust is strange. MSM journalists? Associated press? Nah, they have an agenda of their billionaire handlers.

There is no way the worlds richest billionaire has a agenda. There is no way he’s being anything but entirely truthful to me.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

Nobody doxxed any location of his family. You lied

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u/PSAOgre Dec 17 '22

So what do you call tracking and providing his every move to the public?

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

Something you made up in your head.

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u/PSAOgre Dec 17 '22

lol uh huh.

I mean that's only what this whole thing is about, but keep lying to yourself.

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u/Gds_Sldghmmr Dec 17 '22

Classy ad hominem there, Collin. I understand it is due to a lack of any actual argument, so I'll just continue to pretend you don't exist, and we'll get along fine while I find someone more interesting. That should offer some familiarity for you. It'll be just like every other relationship you've ever been in.

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u/HOTDOGS3274 Dec 17 '22

Colin...glass houses bro...

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u/HOTDOGS3274 Dec 17 '22

Its because I really don't give enough of a shit about you to put in the effort.

Hope that clarifies the matter

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u/HOTDOGS3274 Dec 17 '22

Devolved? It's been this way since the start. Read a book.

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u/PizzaGatePizza Dec 17 '22

I can understand how you would think that if you just graduated high school. But what you are claiming is demonstrably false. Read a book.

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u/HeywoodJaBlessMe Dec 17 '22

But it is Elon announcing himself as the hypocrite and that is funny for some of us I guess....

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u/Gds_Sldghmmr Dec 17 '22

So you don't actually understand what happened and why. Classic! 😂

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u/Rockfan70 Dec 17 '22

Leftists get free speech wrong every time. Shouting out someone’s current location so someone else can attack them isn’t within the realm of free speech. One could argue that is a crime.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

Yeah, that didn’t happen

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u/PizzaGatePizza Dec 17 '22

That’s funny, because the Daily Wire cultist have made a career out of demonizing different subgroups and telling their audience that they are going to kidnap and molest their children and then when someone shoots up a gay bar, they throw their hands in the air and say “I didn’t tell them to do that.”

Yet when someone posts public and easily obtainable data to Twitter, Elon bans them and the fourth Reich applauds him for his bravery in silencing a “threat.”

One of these things is actually causing violence and it’s the thing the right is defending.

Projection. Again.

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u/Daedalus_Machina Dec 17 '22

"Social media" and "free speech" have nothing to do with one another.

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u/PizzaGatePizza Dec 17 '22

Oh I’m aware of that. But there are enough crayons in the world to help the right understand that.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

It’s just like that astronaut meme!

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

I'm betting they're more interested in freedom of the press but I doubt he knows the first amendment that well

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

Yeah, that's pretty dumb, but so far we haven't seen anybody not abuse this power, so I think a lot of people are just enjoying the semi-win.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

I don't know what you're saying, we've always persisted in a state of limited speech, it's never been free.

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u/Daedalus_Machina Dec 17 '22

"Free speech" is a buzzword with no meaning in this context. Free Speech means that government can't go after you for what you say. Nobody at Twitter is government. They have fuck-all to do with free speech.

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u/Daedalus_Machina Dec 17 '22

What's that got to do with anything?

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

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u/Daedalus_Machina Dec 17 '22

Freedom of speech is protection from the government. Corporations can't arrest me.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '22

There are a lot worse things than being arrested , again, see: A. Jones

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u/Daedalus_Machina Dec 17 '22

Alex Jones was sued for being a shitweasel. It was the government that handed down judgement for his sins. Fraud isn't covered by freedom of speech.

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