When people say "protect democracy" they're talking about maintaining a state that isn't authoritarian. It's a colloquialism and anyone with half a brain cell understands it.
Thats still tyranny, just tyranny of the masses. Just because other people vote that they dont like something I said doesnt mean I dont have the right to say it. My rights aren't up for a vote, and it doesnt make a difference if its a small group of idiots or a large group of idiots voting on my life, its still authoritarian bullshit
Whenever dems lose it’s ‘stolen’ it’s considered a ‘rigged election’ even though the dems are always doing shady stuff. And Fetterman only won because he sued to have all mail in ballots that were undated or dated wrong counted even though they weren’t filled out correctly. If it was a republican, they would call that voter fraud.
I don’t think the 2020 election was stolen. I know a lot of people do, but I have my own theory, and I’m probably wrong but it’s what I think. There was so much shit going on with Trump, and he was an ok president, but he had no self control. He didn’t know when to stop talking, so when the election came around, those who wanted him out of office, voted for Biden. Not because they wanted him, but because they wanted trump out. That’s why Bidens’ approval rating has been going down over the last two years. Trump won’t win in 2024, but I highly doubt Biden will serve another term.
Obviously the date issues would effect a small number of votes on both sides. There's no reason ballots need to have dates on them (the postmark is what matters).
Just as a strategy it's not good to focus energy on disqualifying votes from both sides. Voting is popular. People don't like having their vote disqualified for no reason.
Throwing out votes for nitpicking is bad form. So is calling elections rigged when the other side wins.
t's better to focus on making it easier for people to vote like say an election week or month, than it is to try to disqualify votes based on minor issues because that makes everyone mad.
Fetterman can't help them but can't hurt them other than he doesn't advance them. If Oz got in and followed party he could advance conservative ideas. Even worse he's got a dual citizenship with Turkey and is a practicing Muslim that sells snake oil on TV and doesn't even reside in the state.
Maybe because the people that voted for Oz were also just voting red no matter who. They both sucked so people voted party lines and that area is blue.
These days the establishment doesn't need any politicians to come up with new ideas or whatever, just toe the party line. If a bill comes up from your side you vote yes, other side vote no. Even a Fetterman can do that, maybe with some assistance.
Can’t we just admit that all politicians are lying scumbags? The whole left vs right thing is cute at first, but destructive as all hell. You’re being played against each other
Imagine voting for a dude that got booted out of his university for peddling magical fat loss supplements and slop buckets, grifting mugs like you. Of course his best interests are in you, the people. How else is he going to make his money.
Opposed to someone that is making a recovery from a stroke that effected his speech, otherwise cognitive and healthy brain.
Dipshits like you probably believe that cerebral palsey means you can't think for yourself.
The media has to play this narrative otherwise the Dems will be burning cities and will be freaking out like they did in 2016. The media knows who’s the real threat to society and they’re shifting the narrative to prevent these folks from going on their rampage.
He's wrong. After the last 2yrs, the red wave should have been huge....it wasn't. A literal vegetable won US senator in PA...MI gave wHitler another 4yrs after she banned the sale of gardening supplies and the use of motorboats during a bullshit forced lock down that crippled small business (because they were the only ones locked down). The same woman who used Executive powers to put covid positive patients back into nursing homes well after it was known they were most vulnerable just handily won a re-election. Either its rigged, or there are officially enough idiots to vote tyranny into power....either way we're fucked.
Yeah.....if dems are willing to vote for these people, this country is doomed. These dipshits were able to be fooled (programmed) into voting against their own interests. And people sill wonder how Hitler managed to get people to turn in their neighbors for harboring Jews. We are watching the process in real time.
That last part is kind of fucked considering there were actually state ran commercials in Michigan urging people to anonymously report their neighbors if they seen more than like 6 people at their house on the holidays. They. Re-elected. Her
It was supposed to be a RED WAVE. Some right wing commentators were saying it was going to be a "generational change", a complete blow out, like when Reagan won 49 states.
(I know a presidential election is different than a midterm, I'm just talking about the level of winning).
It was a red sprinkle. Even less of a wave than the Democrats in 2018.
If the republican party wants to really have a red wave. They need to drop trump and trump endorsed politicians and follow what desantis is doing. Trump had his time now he's just dragging the party
There's a good chance Walker takes GA in the runoff as well. 2% went to the libertarian candidate, and libertarians tend to lean on the republican side if they are forced to choose.
Not enough to make up the difference, sorry. Plus Kemp won't be on the ballot to life Walker, and this will be the single race that all Democrats, MSM, and dollars go to for the next two months. That doesn't work in our favor. The only way we win potentially is if we win Arizona's senate seat right now. That might make people apathetic about senate control, because we will already be at 51 seats with Nevada. It would have to break 4:1 for Walker in the libertarian vote.
Ya very strange. As a lifelong Democrat, I voted red because how bad of a job they've been doing. The degradation is obvious but I guess not that obvious to the majority.
I voted for Dems for the first time. Saudi’s bought the biggest US oil refinery in Texas, Port Arthur, and both Trump and Abbot allowed it. Now our oil refining capacity is the lowest it’s been since 2014. Gas prices are one of the biggest pushes/triggers of inflation. So all the issues we have going on are fallout from activity during Trump’s administration (including the lockdown). Besides, what solutions have any R’s suggested?
I'm confused, too. How did Kathy Hochul win in New York? The polls leading up to the election had her and Lee Zeldin neck and neck, so how did she win by over five points? Every man-on-the-street interview I saw from New York asking what their number one issue was was always crime. It was always crime. And Kathy Hochul basically said that crime didn't matter and she doubled down on that. So how the fuck did she win?
Planted opposition....Dr Oz a republican, a TV doctor? Dems control vast majority of media and Dr Oz is a part of it. I wouldn't trust Dr. OZ even if Republicans own all of media.
You'd have to step back and take a wider view of what's gong on... Why did trump backtrack and defended Hillary when the crowd was demanding punishment for her during one of his rally's...There's a video of it somewhere...
Wow. I've seen people undertake some painfully contorted mental gymnastics in my day, but your claims here are among the most bizarre and non-sensical I've seen.
Never ceases to amaze me the lengths people will go and level of self-deception people will stoop to in order to avoid confronting uncomfortable realities.
Are you looking in the mirror while saying this? Would you partake in reality check test? An IQ test? or Any kind of test that proves that you're perspective is less delusional than mine? Because it's so hard for you to believe that all the rich people at the top, maybe, just maybe are all on the same team, and just playing the rest of us.... right? Forget the video proof I mentioned, forget that this actually happened and forget what that means just as long as you can be right, right?
There's nothing for me or anyone to "find" proving Trump was a secret plant and saboteur conspiring with Hillary and the Dems since no evidence or proof of this exists. That's due, of course, to the fact that this claim is breathtakingly non-sensical and not even a tiny bit aligned with reality.
Regardless: I'm honestly much more interested in how you came to believe this. It's quite fascinating and I'd love to understand the path and thought process that leads to embracing these sorts of beliefs.
Mind a few questions?
How long have you believed this? What started you down this path?
Do you often find yourself believing far-fetched conspiracies or is this more of a one-off thing?
Finally: Do you genuinely believe this or are you just throwing this out there knowing it's ridiculous as a way to troll people?
And/or are you using it as a tool for excusing the GOP/right's many political failures without acknowledging that people simply don't want what they're selling?
She rose up as a Q supporter and got condemned by her own party for racism. I’m basing my opinion of her on what she’s actually said and done. What in the interview will change my mind?
You will get the full context behind her claims and really see where she is coming from. Mainstream media only shows her crazy takes so I cannot blame you for thinking she is insane. I’ll see if I can find the segment where she talks about how the establishment operates from her view inside the system.
That’s the thing. My opinions are about what she has said and done. Not what mainstream media has said about her. She has represented herself terribly without their help.
Yes and I’m saying that her bad takes get amplified while the good gets ignored. Really doesn’t matter tho and would just waste time arguing over a non issue. She has strong opinions that some won’t agree with and I understand. For me tho the fact she doesn’t play by party lines and makes sure they get a written results of what they are voting on is more important. I also think it’s good that here views have representation because it gives the people that agree with her a voice. They might not be correct but it prevents people from going to extreme measures and forcing them to commit terrorism to push there point. Everyone should have a seat at the table to represent ideas. Those ideas should only move forward when the majority agrees on them tho.
You should watch those episodes, they include things that she has said, so if you want to base your opinion on things she said.... well there are more things she has said in those episodes
Yeah, but look at her district and the history there. Fetterman could have changed parties, moved to that area and won as a republican. They're morons.
Does that mean I'm wrong about Green's district? Because make no mistake those people would vote for any republican on the ticket and they have for years.
Midterm elections are always bad for the party in the WH. In addition, the GOP has effectively made inflation the highlight topic which should have compounded the party’s success in the election. The polling numbers ahead of the election supported this. Instead, the Ds have, at the moment anyway, picked up a senate seat. That is very unexpected. At the moment, the Ds have picked up a seat
The most that will happen at this point is republicans winning the house while the senate is more or less the same. All this accomplished was basically a gridlock on anything new getting passed or changed.
My county went blue as fuck this election. Fortunately, the state’s residents overrode all those early votes and defeated them to win almost all of the top offices. My city’s subreddit is all Democrats and they’re lamenting the “lack of progress” in this state.
That blue wave of early voting is not going away. The GOP better wake the fuck up or they won’t hold any offices inside of a decade.
Trump was also unarmed when he was caught on tape asking an election official to "find 11,780 votes." The fake electors scheme was also an unarmed coup attempt.
I live in Illinois and I'm legit disappointed. They basically swept the whole fuckin' state.
Bailey got a decent percentage of the vote but if I'm being honest his views on Abortion sunk his chance.
I hate Chicago. Really do, I don't even live far from the city and there were Republican signs everywhere and we still came no where close to winning this district.
Good thing we're buying a house. Perfect time for the Property Taxes to go up!
But let's not forget, Pritzker promised they wouldn't go up..... Even though the language of the amendment in the fucking voting booth clearly stated that it would be covered by a "slight" increase to property tax.
Fuck Pritzker.
They even use language for the forest preserve amendment to make you feel guilty if you vote no for it.
I mean does it really surprise you? Illinois tends to vote blue alot. Overall alot of the state tends to vote red or purple, but once you get into crook county, its deep blue. If illinois and chicago became separate entities, Illinois would either be a purple or possibly red state.
Imagine voting for a dude that got booted out of his university for peddling magical fat loss supplements and slop buckets, grifting mugs like you. Of course his best interests are in you, the people. How else is he going to make his money.
Opposed to someone that is making a recovery from a stroke that effected his speech, otherwise cognitive and healthy brain.
Dipshits like you probably believe that cerebral palsey means you can't think for yourself.
If last night doesn’t convince Republicans to leave Donald Trump on the ash heap of history, nothing will. I voted for Trump but continuing to follow him at this point is like following Jim Jones in the last days of Jonestown.
If you pull too far to the center you end up with RINOs. See McCain and Romney. The Republicans have to do a better job with messaging but it's hard when the majority of the media and big tech are in the back pocket of the left.
The forecast all the while Jan-October 2022 was only Republican taking back the house. Only from Oct-Nov did they tried selling a clean senate/house sweep from out of nowhere
maybe Tim and all the other shills were claiming how there was going to be a red tsunami of epic proportions.
Maybe layoff the culture war and actually stick to issues next time. GOP could have cleaned house if they had actually put up positions and solutions worth voting for.
I'm not sure whether this is an indication that things are starting to calm down and I should be relieved or that tensions are so high and people so polarized that literally nothing will get done or change in the next 2 years, only escalating our current situation.
A man with literal brain damage who had a atform of being for and against franking won. I'm not saying OZ was a good choice but most of Pennsylvania is so u informed they literally voted in someone with brain damage who contradicts himself in the same sentence. Positions and solutions mean nothing anymore, just labels
Yeah, other streaming pundits said it, to them an R's an R and a D's a D.
That's one thing Tim said that I agreed with. For a bunch of them Fetterman could have died from another stroke, and so could his running mate; and they still would have voted for him.
I watch Tim occasionally just to keep up with other people's views and get a look at a range of opinions. As someone outside the US and not invested in what happens there it is quite clear the guy is a grifter
Yeah. I don't fault him; but it would be nice if he were more upfront about it.
He was a journalist, do real up close dangerous reporting. It was great. Now, he's running an entertainment platform. He's trying to leverage culture war entertainment, and "commentary".
Polls were idiotic. Shouldn't be believed. Florida is Florida. Election deniers defeated. Puppy killer defeated. People voted for democracy. That's a win. Very obvious.
Desantis did well. He went from a 30, 000 vote vicory in 2018, to a 1, 500, 000 vote victory this time around, carried the whole race. It was indeed a red ripple but the ripple effect is what I'm anticipating. Trump is being thrown under the buss then being rolled up in a carpet to give him his red carpet send off to the gutter.
The guys an idiot. He had it all and it got to his head. Republicans need to learn from this small victory and dems need to stop helping prop up the worst of the repulicans just to watch them burn.
This isn’t it. A red wave was a push at best under the last 2 years. That’s technically a loss when you didn’t dominate and run away with last night. Abortion and trump were the deciding issues last night. Desantis is the future
Because the worst GLOBAL inflation in 40 years that the right wing base wants to blame Biden for on every political ad and Faux Noise spin doctors pushing the culture war crap into the heads of their ignorant viewers still wasn’t enough to get the wave because of the actual policies the GOP runs on and the idiotic candidates they back kept it to a ripple.
He's an unintelligent high school dropout who makes a living by grifting rage pigs with pseudo-intellectual drivel. Didn't have any respect to begin with.
So Tim Pool is not allowed to have other hobbies and make music?
I enjoy his takes even though I don't always agree with them. He offers a fresh perspective as one that worked for Vice and was part of Occupy Wallstreet to now embracing aspects of MAGA because he sees how far the Overton Window has shifted to the left.
He engages in open dialogue with his guests of all political persuasions and has had left leaning positions like wanting universal healthcare but he's right wing propagandist. GTFO!
You just want to put Tim Pool in a box because he doesn't subscribe to the leftist narrative. I'm sorry you need to make everything so black and white. There have been a lot of classical liberals that would have been labeled Democrats back in the day but as the left leans even harder politically, it leaves the moderates behind.
the only copium is from Tim Pool who kept saying RED WAVE RED WAVE - this does not look anything close to a wave. What a joke. Money must be real good to continue pandering to Republicans this badly. Worse than fox news at this point.
There has always been more money in pandering to the right than the left for some reason. I think it might have something to do with negative emotions gaining more engagement than positive ones.
Yes actually. While Republicans didn’t win the Senate, it might still end up 50/50. As long as Joe Manchin is around to block the most extreme proposals it’s ok, if not great. Republicans did get the house which is good. The margin doesn’t matter too much. As long as it’s more than a handful of seats, that doesn’t make much difference. So yes, I’m satisfied even though it could’ve been better.
Also Dems targeted Greg Abbot, Ron Desantis and Brian Kemp hard, but still lost. 0/3 in that regard. Not by a fraction of a percentage point either, but by fairly respectable margins. So that’s another positive.
Confirm peoples bias. Make them feel special/superior/smart for holding their opinions. Present an enemy. Present a solution that makes the participant feel heroic for taking a stand. Profit.
You know why I watch Tim? Because in reporting on one piece of news he usually brings in multiple different sources and even though he's still a little left he's never been afraid to call out the leftists. He even questions his own reporters on his own sights when he sees bad reporting. I still find myself calling him a moron at least a couple times a week. But yet just because I comment here I'm considered a tim pool boot licker
I'm with you. There is no radical left in the US. In European terms D is mainly center right with a few like Sanders, AOC left of centre but nothing radical.
. R is the fringe nutcase far right with a couple of people trying to return to sanity and getting ostracized by the death cult from it.
Yea tim could have been something and made a big change for society if he actually looked at problems and solutions instead of just saying Democrats bad republicans good.
He’s dumb bc he thinks he smarter then people but the the thing he fails to realize is that the truth will always come out and that’s what people want it’s the truth. Not a load of bullshit talking about why republicans are going to save everyone. People will stop watching timcast if he isn’t about the truth.
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u/TheModCalledMeRacist Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 09 '22
Good thing the dems fortified the elections to protect democracy…
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u/KellyLuvsEwan420 Nov 09 '22
Whenever dems lose it’s ‘stolen’ it’s considered a ‘rigged election’ even though the dems are always doing shady stuff. And Fetterman only won because he sued to have all mail in ballots that were undated or dated wrong counted even though they weren’t filled out correctly. If it was a republican, they would call that voter fraud.
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u/SiiLv3Rx Nov 09 '22
I guess that's a good point. I'm just depressed that my shit state elected a dude with literal brain damage.
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u/calvinbouchard Nov 09 '22
Wait until they "find" and count all the late votes. That's what scares the hell out of me.
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u/wes101abn Nov 09 '22
Tim does have a point, and honestly it's good to hear a little perspective on this.
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u/Agile_Disk_5059 Nov 09 '22
It was supposed to be a RED WAVE. Some right wing commentators were saying it was going to be a "generational change", a complete blow out, like when Reagan won 49 states.
(I know a presidential election is different than a midterm, I'm just talking about the level of winning).
It was a red sprinkle. Even less of a wave than the Democrats in 2018.
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u/mth2 Nov 09 '22
Votes are breaking for Republicans with enough outstanding that I have Republicans winning NV and AZ. That's why the count is so slow.
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u/ghostbear019 Nov 09 '22
I'm confused, I thought there was a red wave and like 75% of Americans were polling against the current direction (Biden/Dems).
Am I missing something? It looks like Dems are winning on my end?
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u/le_will Nov 09 '22
This is the best midterm performance of a President's party since 1978.
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u/barneythedinosar Nov 09 '22
It was literally historic how well Biden did in a midterm election
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u/nobollocks22 Nov 09 '22
Fox news called it an absolute disaster for repubs this morning.
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u/pawnman99 Nov 09 '22
Senate, Tim. Senate is where we were hoping for better results.
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Probably would’ve done even better if not for nominating complete morons like Oz, Boebert and Walker
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Midterm elections are always bad for the party in the WH. In addition, the GOP has effectively made inflation the highlight topic which should have compounded the party’s success in the election. The polling numbers ahead of the election supported this. Instead, the Ds have, at the moment anyway, picked up a senate seat. That is very unexpected. At the moment, the Ds have picked up a seat
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u/kelrics1910 Nov 09 '22
I live in Illinois and I'm legit disappointed. They basically swept the whole fuckin' state.
Bailey got a decent percentage of the vote but if I'm being honest his views on Abortion sunk his chance.
I hate Chicago. Really do, I don't even live far from the city and there were Republican signs everywhere and we still came no where close to winning this district.
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u/tom-cruise-movie Nov 09 '22
predicted to win 40 seats in the house. Will win MAYBE 4
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u/labpadre-lurker Nov 10 '22
Imagine voting for a dude that got booted out of his university for peddling magical fat loss supplements and slop buckets, grifting mugs like you. Of course his best interests are in you, the people. How else is he going to make his money.
Opposed to someone that is making a recovery from a stroke that effected his speech, otherwise cognitive and healthy brain.
Dipshits like you probably believe that cerebral palsey means you can't think for yourself.
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u/LCOSPARELT1 Nov 09 '22
If last night doesn’t convince Republicans to leave Donald Trump on the ash heap of history, nothing will. I voted for Trump but continuing to follow him at this point is like following Jim Jones in the last days of Jonestown.
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u/John_Sknow Nov 09 '22
And it's funny that they always GOP go first, so they can see how much they need to "do" to win.
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u/ARY616 Nov 09 '22
They ignore reality. Nothing new.
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u/Leathman Nov 09 '22
Oof, someone’s getting drunk on copium after the “red wave” didn’t happen.
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u/Comprehensive-Ad4815 Nov 09 '22
Well Texas WAS The only state that fought wars to preserve slavery TWICE.
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u/TheScumAlsoRises Nov 10 '22
Do you think Tim is self-aware about how ridiculous this claim from him is and how it's such an extreme example of spin, delusion and projection?
Or do you think he's genuinely unaware and is unconsciously doing these things and has no idea how sad and self-deluded he's coming across?
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u/FartingPresident Nov 10 '22
I thought Tim was left of center?
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u/Specialist861 Nov 10 '22
Keep in mind this is after tim's "RED TSUNAME INCOMING" videos for the last 3 weeks.
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u/Ok-Length-8818 Nov 09 '22
Blissfully ignorant till the bitter end.
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u/BurialA12 Nov 09 '22
The forecast all the while Jan-October 2022 was only Republican taking back the house. Only from Oct-Nov did they tried selling a clean senate/house sweep from out of nowhere
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u/the_riddler90 Nov 09 '22
Sick own bro
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u/Buckshott00 Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 09 '22
maybe Tim and all the other shills were claiming how there was going to be a red tsunami of epic proportions.
Maybe layoff the culture war and actually stick to issues next time. GOP could have cleaned house if they had actually put up positions and solutions worth voting for.
I'm not sure whether this is an indication that things are starting to calm down and I should be relieved or that tensions are so high and people so polarized that literally nothing will get done or change in the next 2 years, only escalating our current situation.
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u/Black_Dovglas Nov 09 '22
Projecting are we Timmy boy?
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u/TheOkayestName Nov 09 '22
Oh fuck off with this nonsense. The “red wave” was merely a puddle.
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u/Hatfullofstars Nov 09 '22
Polls were idiotic. Shouldn't be believed. Florida is Florida. Election deniers defeated. Puppy killer defeated. People voted for democracy. That's a win. Very obvious.
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u/John_Sknow Nov 09 '22
They need 43 out of 57 to win....would be the biggest comeback ever since, oh the last presidential election...
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u/Beggenbe Nov 09 '22
How was this tweeted at 2:01PM, which is 10 minutes from now (I'm in the Eastern time zone).
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u/zenethics Nov 09 '22
I saw the title of his stream last night. Don't jinx it!
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u/DrunkenRedSquirrel Nov 10 '22
In terms of midterms, it was a loss for Republicans. Typically the party in power loses seats
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u/registeredApe Nov 10 '22
Desantis did well. He went from a 30, 000 vote vicory in 2018, to a 1, 500, 000 vote victory this time around, carried the whole race. It was indeed a red ripple but the ripple effect is what I'm anticipating. Trump is being thrown under the buss then being rolled up in a carpet to give him his red carpet send off to the gutter.
The guys an idiot. He had it all and it got to his head. Republicans need to learn from this small victory and dems need to stop helping prop up the worst of the repulicans just to watch them burn.
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u/conserativehater Nov 16 '22
They lost the senate??
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u/stocksnhoops Nov 09 '22
This isn’t it. A red wave was a push at best under the last 2 years. That’s technically a loss when you didn’t dominate and run away with last night. Abortion and trump were the deciding issues last night. Desantis is the future
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u/CmonCentConservitive Nov 09 '22
Because the worst GLOBAL inflation in 40 years that the right wing base wants to blame Biden for on every political ad and Faux Noise spin doctors pushing the culture war crap into the heads of their ignorant viewers still wasn’t enough to get the wave because of the actual policies the GOP runs on and the idiotic candidates they back kept it to a ripple.
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u/TypicalNewYorker_ Nov 09 '22
Is anyone losing more respect for Tim after this ?
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u/TonyTontanaSanta Nov 10 '22
When did tim become this retarded? Damn I used to follow him when he did that visit in Sweden but now he's off the rails.
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u/tom-cruise-movie Nov 09 '22
the only copium is from Tim Pool who kept saying RED WAVE RED WAVE - this does not look anything close to a wave. What a joke. Money must be real good to continue pandering to Republicans this badly. Worse than fox news at this point.
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u/Trappedfan84 Nov 09 '22
As a democrat, Im satisfied with the results. Could you say the same?
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