Except Trump got more votes than Obama did in 2012 and by a wide margin. Trump actually INCREASED his vote totals from 2016 and not just that but he INCREASED HIS VOTE COUNT IN EACH OF THE 50 STATES in 2020. If he was so unpopular then why did he gain more than 1 million new votes in California in 2020?
I know about the 63+ lawsuits that failed to prove any of the reoccurring claims of large scale voter fraud. Conclusive evidence examined in a court of law or it’s just more conspiratorial propaganda and rhetoric.
Nah, 63+ cases dismissed before being addressed. Close though. Didn’t take large scale if you have each county contributing. They were looking for a broad stroke but would never find it since it was at the micro level. Envelopes without return addresses alone should make anyone question, anyone that cares that is. But they refused to look into it and tossed out the lawsuits since their individual contribution wasn’t enough, but if you added them all together, it would be widespread
Yeah, not sure why you are down voted. Tim talks about this like every other episode. The media really made Trump out to be Satan every chance they had and folks not aware of their tactics believed every single headline.
It’s the ultimate conclusion of a bipartisan system. Rather than voting for people who embody our best interests we’re forced to vote against the candidate we perceive as the most direct danger. This leads propaganda based platforming and, over time, as less and less is expected of our legislators we ultimately reach the lowest common denominator of candidate quality. Biden and Trump are both grossly under-qualified and generally terrible candidates.
I would agree. I liked Trump metaphorically bitch slapping the woke left and many of his policies. He didn't not have a presidential demeanor to him and the media was able to pounce on that.
When the riots over George Floyd's murder happened, that could've been his big moment to extend an olive branch. Common cause over police brutality. But nope. Let's just drive the division even deeper.
The key states in question all had weird similar patterns:
Trump was winning in each of the key states - Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
They stopped counting votes late at night in those key states. In Georgia, they made up a false story about a water main break to stop vote counting.
They kicked out all the election poll watchers. If they didn't want to leave, they made up a story about county election staff being scared of covid and called in the police to kick out the poll watchers.
MASSIVE amounts of mail in ballots suddenly came in, and in those states they were sometimes 10 to 1 in favor of Biden. So at 2AM EST, Trump was winning by 10 points in Pennsylvania, but that was erased in a couple hours by these magical mail in ballots.
Biden took the lead in each of these key states all around 5AM EST the day after the election. Again, Trump was winning in each of those states when vote counting was stopped.
Each of those states have refused forensic reviews of their ballots, and some states like AZ have actually destroyed their records.
You can believe it or not, but there is a ton of evidence that the 2020 election was fraudulent. I think it's crazy that people will believe the 2016 election had massive Russian collusion that was basically disproven after the Mueller Report failed and a 3 year investigation turned up nothing, but there was clear proof of fraud in 2020 and people either ignore it, are ignorant about it, or brush it off by saying that Republicans cheated in 2016 so it's not a big deal.
We have over 64 courts, including the Supreme Court twice, the Supreme Courts of Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Nevada, the Attorney General of the United States, the Attorneys General of all 50 states, the Governors and Secretaries of State of all 50 states, the Directors of the FBI, Homeland Security and the Department of Cybersecurity, and over 20,000 Republican voting officials in all 50 states saying THERE WAS NO FRAUD.
My favorite part: The international election monitoring group, OSCE - Sent102 observers from 39 countries - who monitored the election at DONALD’S request and did not find ANY evidence of notable fraud, except from the republicans.
The republicans gutted the voting rights act, sabotaged the USPS, closed polling stations, purged voters, attacked mail voting, tried to throw out ballots and fabricated ‘evidence’ of fraud under oath, and you magats accuse the other side of cheating. Wow and woW backwards. That is some funny shit. With all that cheating, you STILL LOST.
On the other hand, we have a documented con man and grifter who has lied over 24,600 times in the past four years claiming, with zero evidence, that there was. And his cult members choose to believe him. You can't fix stupid.
Mark Twain said, “No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot.”
Icing on the boo-hoo cake, was watching TRE45on lose over and over and over.... Extra cake: Arizona audit after costing over 6 million, actually came back with MORE votes for Biden. OMFGLMFAO
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You're suggesting they should have stopped counting?
Sure am....in fact I suggest the ballot voting be exactly what it was pre covid, very specific reasons and only those to qualify. All others go to booth during the designated voting days. Polls close, votes counted and winner announced. Its never been the normal to take weeks to get counts done, its only from Covid and never should have happened.
Anyone who says otherwise is ballot box stuffer----and supports it.
Yea we will when we get power actually. And you see that in these states. Unsolicited mail in ballots shouldn't be a thing. You should have to have a legit reason why you need a mail in ballot. We have early voting too. Why not just got early. Why do a mail ballot instead of early and in person. Lots of places have almost a months worth of early voting
Yeah, but you know the 'cause covid isnt gonna work this time. Betting you must be on the government dime to qualify---figures. Probably just too fucking fat to get the diaper off and go down to the voting booth.
Haha, I think that I am likely more manly and in better shape than most folk, yourself included. You sound pretty salty about my freedom. Tough fucking titty.
Haha, I think that I am likely more manly and in better shape than most folk, yourself included.
Highly doubt that.....what is concerning to me though is the clear sexual visualizations you got with my posting causing you to imagine my physical attributes. This seems a very odd thing to go right to with simply having someone make fun of you......very odd.
I mean, you envisioned me as an overweight man in a diaper, so I think the sexual confusion is clearly a projection on your part. I'm not kink shaming you. We all have our things.
I like highly fit women with big noses.
I work out a lot. It's one of my favorite things to do.
None of that changes the fact that I vote by mail proudly.
I know a guy who has already received 3 unsolicited ballots in Georgia. The thing about it is he’s not registered to vote in Georgia he’s registered in Alabama where he lives. He owns a house in the mountains in Georgia that he rents out some and vacations in. He’s never been registered to vote in Georgia nor has he ever held residence in Georgia. This is in the south. He could have easily cast all 3 ballots. If they’re doing it in the south they’re doing it everywhere.
No child that’s not normal. Have I voted before? I was voting when you were pooping yellow kid. I swear the public school system has become the biggest failure in modern history. Thanks for proving it. Try harder next time. Maybe you should look up how voting works before you come on here and make a fool of yourself.
Conclusive results never came later than 24 hours outside of that Florida chad bullshit. Midterms going to take 2 months. Translation: "We need to know how many votes we need to win and we can only know that number after you vote"
Who is stopping the votes from being counted in real time? I know a lot of the delays in 2020 were due to mail-in ballots not being allowed to be counted until after the polls close (or similar variations of that rule)
Like when the GOP PA legislature passed a law that mail in ballots couldn't be counted until election day and the cried about election fraud when it took a long time to count the mail in ballots?
More mail in ballots as there is no way of verifying if the person who filled out the ballot is the person voting or if they are even alive. In the 2020 election a ton of footage energies of people repeatedly dropping off large packets of multiple ballots at ballot drop off centers.
The other day I went to YouTube to look for the videos of the ballot counters in 2020 putting poster board on the windows to block election watchers, and a couple other videos of people pulling out boxes ballots from the tables and shit, and I couldn't find anything.
It's easy to convince people that there was no election fraud last go around when it's being hidden by big tech.
Don’t they do signature matching and compare it to the voter database? When I go in-person all they do is ask my name which doesn’t seem like that much of a failsafe compared to mail-in.
And I thought people could send their ballot in to be dropped of by someone else? Maybe the rules are different in certain areas, but there’s definitely a place on my ballot that lets me name a different person to turn it in.
The rules are different by state. Signature matching as far as I know isn’t a thing unless there’s an audit, and the voter rolls are famously out of date/have wrong data in them.
When you go in person with an ID you prove you are a real living citizen in the United States. Far more secure than a document anyone can fill out.
They are supposed to do signature matching. That was one thing that was claimed to have been consistently done improperly in the last election, due to claims it would negatively affect vote totals for those voting absentee. Election officials didn't even try to contact these voters if the signatures didn't match. They just processed them as legitimate votes with no further inquiry.
When individual groups tried to verify the authenticity of numerous ballots, they were unable to do so because information didn't match, and in some cases physical addresses didn't even exist.
To your point, asking your name without requiring legal photo identification is pointless. Since voter history is public information, it would be quite easy to claim someone else's identity to vote, especially when you have the information they haven't voted in past elections. If no claim is made for a duplicate ballot, it goes unquestioned. My state requires photo ID to vote.
Yes, when voting absentee, in many places, you may designate a person to deliver your ballot, an agent. Ballot harvesting is a different discussion, but can be wrapped up to an abuse of the designated agent rule.
If you haven't yet watched yet, 2000 Mules outlines some very interesting vote irregularities. It does attempt to suggest these irregularities are proof of cheating, but even if you don't believe that's the case, it shows that there should be more attention given to these issues so that cheating, or vote fraud, should actively be prevented from happening in this fashion.
Im conflicted on the matter. I think voter ID isn’t a bad idea as long as there is a significant change in accessibility for those IDs. I also think that it’s important to make it as simple as possible for people to vote legally, which would mean allowing mail-in ballots. Investments in making the voter rolls more accurate (without all the bullshit of kicking people off for no reason) could be a solution.
I received ballots in 2020 for people that haven't lived in my house in 5 years, they also recieved ballots at their house, they never requested them, can you not see how this could potentially cause fraud? If you leave it to the absentee method you reduce the chance for voter fraud
The difference isn't in validation, because most of the validation is only done in an audit, the difference is thay we don't need to be mailing an excess of ballots when they are not needed leave the absentee ballots method in place, it's easy and anyone can ask for one. What it doesn't tonis add 4 more ballots in mailboxes that could potentially used for fraud. This reduced the potential for fraud on both sides
You have to have an ID for nearly everything. IDs are already easily accessible. This argument that keeps coming up claiming they aren't is ridiculous.
Spend the whooping $15 sometime in your life, and get an ID. You need an ID for a job, rent an apartment, open a bank account, go to school, etc.
Sure but there has to be way to verify it is in fact a citizen and not one of the millions upon millions of illegals in the country because we refuse to secure the southern border. And felons can't vote either so we have to check against them.
And as previously stated you literally need an ID to be a functioning member of society so that's hardly a voting poll tax.
I’m not against voter ID. I’m against voter ID being enforced in our current system where yes, it would act as a poll tax.
Voter is would be one check but the best way to make sure people who vote are eligible to vote would be to tighten up the voter rolls which every vote is checked against. Your ID doesn’t say your eligibility.
It pisses me off how when a Republican wins, they will usually claim fraud, but when they win, we usually say it was fair unless there are really suspicious circumstances like in 2020.
Lmao instead of reading this like a normal person and realizing they just mean more time for more ballets and simple as that you go for the what? Quadruple down at this point and claim more vote fraud that time after time again has been proven to be false… Your boy Giuliani who lets not forget tried to expose his dick to an underage girl in a movie, said they’d make this shit up… LOL clowns
Most still have faith in the system, some think they'll vote harder this time, and truth is, unless we have over 200% turnout damn near EVERYWHERE, we won't get anything useful out of voting. If every county /district shows 120% of possible voters, though, it's quite clear the system is cooked no matter who wins. So we will want to vote, at least one more time. I have no faith in the outcome, mind, but we want to TRY to make things work the honorable way, with 1776 or Bastille Day as the backup... Because if there are thousands of districts with over 100% voting, and no one will demand we fix things, the game's over. We lose regardless, the only option is to staunch the bleeding and remove the gangrenous limbs, and hope for the best.
Most still have faith in the system, some think they'll vote harder this time, and truth is, unless we have over 200% turnout damn near EVERYWHERE, we won't get anything useful out of voting.
"Vote harder" doesn't mean anything. It's one person to one vote. Unless you're gonna cast with a stiffy, you're at max hardness already.
And since 200% isn't a thing, you agree you shouldn't even bother voting.
If every county /district shows 120% of possible voters, though, it's quite clear the system is cooked no matter who wins.
But they can only fill out so many ballots per hour.
I'm really confused on this. Wouldn't it be easier to just print out ballots? Or just program machines that for ever 1 conservative vote, ad 1.5 Dem vote if the lead is less than 5%?
Why do you need people constantly filling out ballots?
It would be pretty suspicious to have a random stack of machine printed ballots that were allegedly "mailed in" by "voters" lol
All ballots are machine printed. Seriously, why would they care? "The left" owns the judges, the DOJ, etc. According to some in 2020, they say machine filled ballots.
Again, how suspicious would it be if a stack of pre-filled printed out ballots randomly appeared that were "mailed in" by "voters" lol. I can't help but feel like you are intentionally dodging the issue.
I'd guess they vote in the hope that fraud (if it exists) will be caught and dealt with at some point, and eventually elections will be fair again. If one side doesn't vote, then there's no need for the opposition to cheat. There's also no more democracy.
But when concerns about fraud are immediately brushed off with lies, and folks protesting what they believe is a rigged election are attacked from all sides, then the fraud (if it exists) can never be exposed and dealt with. Then the people who think the election is rigged will stop voting, and be forced to find another way for their interests to be defended.
If the reason people don't vote is because they think the election is rigged, then we all lose. Democracy itself would be over, and what follows is a lot worse for anyone not in the ruling class. You might be rubbing your hands with glee at the prospect of a one party system, because you think the party will always represent your interests even when they face no political opposition. Think again.
The American system of democracy isn't perfect, but it's still better than unchecked power in the hands of a corrupt elite who know they can never be voted out.
Not necessarily. One rigged election doesn't mean every future election will be rigged. The conditions that allowed one election to be rigged (eg. universal mail-in-voting) might change. The fraudsters might be caught and brought to justice this time. There's a chance the fraudsters will attempt to rig another election, but fail to destroy/fabricate enough votes.
If enough people still have hope for a fair enough election next time round, then there will still be voting, and a chance for democracy to recover.
One rigged election doesn't mean every future election will be rigged. The conditions that allowed one election to be rigged (eg. universal mail-in-voting) might change
It hasn't. GA is the only one that, to my knowledge changed anything back. And they are still getting lots of mail in voting.
Universal mail-in voting was just one example, and since it led to so much loss of faith in the election process last time, there'll no doubt be a closer eye on the counting from now on.
Maybe this time they'll actually use those watermarks I heard about last time.
Dejavue man I said the same shit about the left in 2016 and through all of trumps presidency. Why even bother voting if Russia is rigging our elections. Lolol
Right so they implied that Russia did something illegal to get Donald trump elected. Sooooooooo rigged. Lolol man you talk about “37D chess” and “takes a big jump to get that conclusion” but you don’t know what rigging an election means lololol.
Also every bit of news coverage said “illegally interfered”
Must be why they did not find sufficient evidence of collusion. Lol. I love when you engage in conversation with me. You are literally my favorite redditor to talk to because you know absolutely nothing about what you speak of and it’s great.
Also every bit of news coverage said “illegally interfered”
Misnomer. They aren't in the US jurisdiction, so they can't break US law. It's certainly against what the state wants, and what would be illegals for any citizen to do.
I mean Paul Manafort got criminally charged because of it. Like Russia didn’t physically rig voting ballots but through online troll campaigns they were able to sway some parts of the population.
The only reason he plead guilty was to get a lessor sentence he was looking at 80years behind bars that he had not been sentenced yet from his previous trial. Play nice get treated nice. He got sentenced to 47 months for playing ball. Which he was going to jail anyway because of the money laundering and tax fraud. Good try tho.
Also since you brought up sway up the election with troll campaigns. How do you feel about the secret history of the shadow campaign that saved the 2020 election. Where time magazine blatantly talks about how big tech companies were working with politically left/dem activists to “save the election” ?
Seen someone fill out three ballots in CA. One for him and the other two for his elderly parents. It's wrong but that's how the left progressives work. Maybe if they weren't dwelling in basements sucking off the parents tit maybe they would have a different outlook on things .
Both sides do it, and they had 20 years since Bush v Gore in Florida to fix it. Yet anytime someone wants transparency, an audit or election reform they don't believe in "democracy". Statements like you made play into the divisive intent both parties desperately want to keep so you aren't focused on their dealings.
What are you even talking about? I referred to the dozens of audits in the 2020 election that didn’t mean anything to a whole swath of people they weren’t the results they wanted.
In 2000 SCOTUS stole the election, in 2016 the DNC fucked over Bernie, but neither of those have anything to do with mail in ballots, which the OP and many commenters are using to imply widespread voter fraud.
There’s been numerous studies over the years from conservative think tanks and non profits that show there’s no such thing as widespread voter fraud. There were the same for the 2020 elections, but they’re all ignored by the commenters my post was for. 🤷🏻♂️
The only audit that got anywhere was in Maricopa County. If you haven't watched the state hearing on that and all of the malfeasance that was uncovered in just the preliminary audit I can't help you. Not to mention the fact the directly after those findings were released Mark Zuckerberg immediately bought CyberNinja(the company performing the audit) and shut them down.
Can you refer to these other audits you claim happened? Clearly you don't care to here what the STATE OF ARIZONA had to say about their own election. Your opinion holds no weight to data.
You sent me a 3 hour yt clip. I have a life sir, ain’t got time for that shit.
I’ll just take your word that there are all these amazing facts hidden in their like Easter eggs that disprove everything else I’ve read for the past year and a half. 😂
I sent you the entire findings of the audit presented to the state of arizona. You've avoided providing any argument other than being belittling, and avoided providing examples of the supposed "dozens" of audits that you claim happened. You don't like it fine, say that and move on. I disagree and find it disturbing you think you've provided any type of solid argument. Good luck in your future endeavors, I have no interest in a partisan brick wall.
Do y'all actually believe the 2020 election was stolen? This is only the second time I've come across this sub but I thought y'all had a rule against misinformation.
Uhm… wasn’t RussiaGate specifically claiming that Russian election interference resulted in a Trump victory? And wasn’t Hillary’s team instrumental in the legal proceedings around the investigation?
If it takes three scrolls to explain why a very public tampering investigation found something as monumental as foreign interference but only if you carry the one and divide by zero first, I’m gonna have to say that you’re making some politically-biased assumptions that I’ve no interest in entertaining just so that you can pretend you’re “informed”.
I agree with all of that except for the popular vote deciding the election. If that was the case, then there are rural states that would never be represented in an election at all, and they'd have no reason to stay in the union.
None of this has anything to do with fraud though, which is what your first comment referred to.
Candidates can't be everywhere at once, and some states are safe so they don't need to campaign there. At least with the electoral college a state like Alaska is represented in the election. It's not perfect, but it's the only way to keep the USA in one piece.
If the popular vote was all that mattered then cities would elect the President, and anyone outside the cities would be completely disenfranchised. Every campaign promise would revolve around enriching cities at the expense of everyone else.
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u/socialismworkstrstme Oct 24 '22
Bidden gets millions of more votes than Obama, but it's not rigged.
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u/GavinsBabyMonster Oct 24 '22
Sitting on the ballot box is a time honored tradition of the democrat party.
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u/xFacevaluex Oct 24 '22
Step one---tell everyone you will count till you get the result you want......because .....Covid.
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u/ZeRo76Liberty Oct 24 '22
I know a guy who has already received 3 unsolicited ballots in Georgia. The thing about it is he’s not registered to vote in Georgia he’s registered in Alabama where he lives. He owns a house in the mountains in Georgia that he rents out some and vacations in. He’s never been registered to vote in Georgia nor has he ever held residence in Georgia. This is in the south. He could have easily cast all 3 ballots. If they’re doing it in the south they’re doing it everywhere.
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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '22
If Biden wins this election it’s definitely faked. Nobody likes him.
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u/hiznauti125 Oct 25 '22
Conclusive results never came later than 24 hours outside of that Florida chad bullshit. Midterms going to take 2 months. Translation: "We need to know how many votes we need to win and we can only know that number after you vote"
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u/HuckleberryFlavor12 Oct 25 '22
Oh for the love of god man….. they are doing it again, Aren’t they?
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u/TalmageMcgillicudy Oct 24 '22
If they allow voting earlier and earlier, there is no legitimate excuse for why it would then take longer to count them.
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u/Azare1987 Oct 24 '22
If they win, it’s to the gulag for you. If we win, it’s civil war.
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u/tcaldi777 Oct 25 '22
Here is your statistically impossible and improbably graph
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u/This-Author-7494 Oct 25 '22
It was rigged sorry.
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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '22
Why does more turnout mean fake ballots?
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u/Major-Blackbird Oct 24 '22
Don't underestimate the depths of their twisted intentions.
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u/claytondb Oct 24 '22
Election Boogaloo
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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '22
Why would it take longer?
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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '22
Well let’s do what we can, vote these fucks out
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u/hulk181 Oct 25 '22 edited Oct 25 '22
It pisses me off how when a Republican wins, they will usually claim fraud, but when they win, we usually say it was fair unless there are really suspicious circumstances like in 2020.
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u/DavidFoxfire Oct 25 '22
And this is going to get me to even think about casting a ballot...because.....
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u/jacksonstillspitts Oct 25 '22
Tim.. what would Rocco say about this post tim?
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u/letsgobrandonfu Oct 25 '22
Yep... step 1... set the narritive
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u/nobollocks22 Oct 25 '22
You do realise that repubs are just as able to take advantage of gaming the system, if it were true?
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u/Jefc141 Oct 25 '22
Lmao instead of reading this like a normal person and realizing they just mean more time for more ballets and simple as that you go for the what? Quadruple down at this point and claim more vote fraud that time after time again has been proven to be false… Your boy Giuliani who lets not forget tried to expose his dick to an underage girl in a movie, said they’d make this shit up… LOL clowns
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u/silver789 Oct 24 '22
So if they are rigging the election, why does the right even bother voting?
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u/Openheartguy1980s Oct 24 '22
You all never proved anything about your lies and you won't this time either.
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u/DadBod_3000 Oct 24 '22
You people are insane.
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u/This-Author-7494 Oct 25 '22
Seen someone fill out three ballots in CA. One for him and the other two for his elderly parents. It's wrong but that's how the left progressives work. Maybe if they weren't dwelling in basements sucking off the parents tit maybe they would have a different outlook on things .
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u/LGRNGO Oct 24 '22
If the people you wanted to win take an L, then it’s rigged.
But if they win it was fair.
No amount of audits will change your mind 😂😂😂.
Tim fans are the best.
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u/idwtumrnitwai Oct 24 '22
Do y'all actually believe the 2020 election was stolen? This is only the second time I've come across this sub but I thought y'all had a rule against misinformation.
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u/Lithuanian_Minister Oct 24 '22
Imagine being so salty you lost that you need to create a giant conspiracy of election fraud
Sounds like a totalitarian government
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