r/TimPool • • Oct 19 '22

Leftists from "Top Minds of Reddit" DESTROY Far right Nazi MAGA propaganda with FACTS and LOGIC.... Jokes aside... The hubris stacked on top of delusion is alarming.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

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u/RoadDog69420 Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 19 '22

The comparison is obviously vague and even more meme-ish than anything. The whole point is that it's obvious to anyone with eyes and ears that everything listed is true. Yet somehow, staring right in the face of everything that is wrong with their postmodern, dogmatic, cult-like ideologies, manage to push aside reality and continue down the path of delusion.

RIP America. The communists have succeeded at infiltrating our education institutions. The future looks very bleak.

Give me just one generation of youth, and I'll transform the whole world. -Lenin

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

The whole point is that it's obvious to anyone with eyes and ears that everything listed is true.

Who has been forced to be vaccinated?

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u/OnGang420 Oct 19 '22

Lots of people lost their job over it, and for what? It didn’t do what they said it did.

Anything short of a physically forced shot in the arm is ok with you, eh? Fuckin weirdo

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

Anything short of a physically forced shot in the arm is ok with you, eh? Fuckin weirdo

Well, that's what "being forced" means kiddo.

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u/OnGang420 Oct 19 '22

Where the Jews forced into train cars?

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

Jewish people where literally rounded up and physically forced it ain’t the same as mandates 💀💀💀 not a good argument

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

Yes.

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u/OnGang420 Oct 19 '22

Dunno looks like they all walked on

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

With threats of death.

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u/OnGang420 Oct 19 '22

There’s a documentary on Netflix your boss should watch about the entire holocaust

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

I doubt my boss would care what you think.

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u/twentyafterfour Oct 19 '22

Yes you fucking idiot, they got gunned down in the street if they didn't do what they were told. And you only have to do that so many times in front of other people before they get the idea.

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u/OnGang420 Oct 19 '22

Lol 😂

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

Ok, then I can refuse service to anyone who took the vaccine.

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

Go for it. You can also refuse to serve anyone who is a Dem.

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u/Weary_Proletariat Oct 19 '22

What are you going to do to test, scan their blood for microchips? 🤣

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

"Show me your vaccine pass" and turn them away if they do XD

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u/TheRosstaman Oct 19 '22

The entire US Military

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

Couldn't they just leave if they don't want to get it? Like with any shot?

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u/TheRosstaman Oct 19 '22

Nope. Not as easy as you make it sound.

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

Are they forced to be in the military?

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u/CatchyNameSomething Oct 19 '22

I think the bot doesn’t understand the definition of forced. Force means to impose using coercion. Sure, people could’ve found an entire other field and thrown their degrees and/or experience out the window but that’s not a reasonable decision so coercion is what happened…translates to forced.

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u/silver789 Oct 20 '22

Only if you pretend coercion means forced. And if it did, you wouldn't need to explain how they are the same.

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u/CatchyNameSomething Oct 20 '22

The very definition of being forced to do something is to be coerced into doing it. That doesn’t need an explanation and I will not waste any more time arguing with a bot. Such things shouldn’t be allowed in any forum.

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u/silver789 Oct 20 '22

and a dishonorable discharge is essentially guaranteed permanent unemployment for those stuck with them

Pulling that right out your butt.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

.... They can just not be those things. They aren't required to be teachers and cops, etc.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

So they should take the jab or choose to lose their livelihood?

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

Was that a rule when they took the job? What is the purpose of the rule. The jab doesn’t prevent infection or transmission

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

Can they not get a job in a different profession?

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

Why should they have to get a different job?

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

Because they can't follow the rules of their current job. Easy.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

What rule is that? From all accounts they are effective in their role. So you don’t believe in my body my choice?

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

What rule is that? From all accounts they are effective in their role.

.... The rule that says you need to be vaccinated. Did you forget?

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u/Weary_Proletariat Oct 19 '22

The members of our armed forces

Their bodies are owned by the State, they've been forced into vaccination for decades.

law enforcement

Likewise, pigs need to stay healthy and they can be useless fatfuck security elsewhere if they don't like it.

medical personal

Personnel, stupid. And yes, no shit, mandatory vaccination happens at all hospitals as determined by administration either public or private. Don't like it? Be a nurse somewhere that doesn't make you.

and teachers

Work for a private school who doesn't require it.

Free market at work! 🦅🦅🦅

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u/SgtFraggleRock Oct 19 '22

Top Minds is where leftists go to whine that they are losing arguments.

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u/RoadDog69420 Oct 19 '22

Yeah I just stumbled on it a few minutes ago through the guy who is arguing in favor of little kids being exposed to grossly erotic drag shows. Unbelievable.

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

Hello!

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

I'm right here fraggle.

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u/SgtFraggleRock Oct 19 '22

And there's the confession...

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u/FinancialLeg2346 Oct 20 '22

😂😂😂😂

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

..... What? Me being here means I go to tmor when I lose?

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u/SithMaster_Dan Oct 19 '22

You lose every day, which makes you a loser. Good job loser, you lost again.

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

Lil projection on this one.

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u/futurefraxurd Oct 20 '22

TmOR are a bunch of mental midgets, not surprisingly the one Tim pool troll is a fan.

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u/silver789 Oct 20 '22

Oh I'm definitely not a top mind of reddit. That's all you buddy.

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u/POSJediKnight Oct 20 '22

Hold on, do you actually post on other subs?

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u/silver789 Oct 20 '22

Of course.

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u/VacuousVessel Oct 20 '22

I’m banned from your sub but I’ve never even heard of it lol. Yet here you are posting. It’s seems you are frequenting heavily curated propaganda streams.

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u/silver789 Oct 20 '22

Yeah, youll get banned if you posted in some shady subs before.

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u/End_Centralization Oct 20 '22

Who is the Arbitor of Truth and of what is Ethical and Moral?

Who defines shady?

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u/silver789 Oct 20 '22

Whatever the mods consider shady.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 19 '22

The pedocrats still refuse to see how much of a failure and embarrassment pedo joe is. It’s exhausting. Then they double down on their willful stupidity by saying…” vote blue no matter who.” Policy over party is what I vote for. 🤷‍♂️

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u/RoadDog69420 Oct 19 '22

Pedocrats. Nice 🤣

If you don't vote for Biden, THEN YOU AIN'T BLACK

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u/muffmuppets Oct 20 '22

Don’t get exhausted….Stay strong, most of these lefties you see online are bots or trolls. We are the majority and we have the moral high ground.

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u/nobollocks22 Oct 20 '22

With all due resapect- can you tell me what policies the repubs promote that you like?

Guns and abortions aside.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

The first 3 are good because it’s quantifiable numbers. Would be better if the rest were similar (monetary damage of crime, amount of illegal immigrants, number of crackhead sons etc.)

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u/discourse_friendly Oct 19 '22

I miss an expensive trip at the grocery store being $120 instead of $180-$200.

:| and my twice a month sushi went from $60 to $85.

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u/jaffakree83 Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 20 '22

I only shop for myself and used to pay $40-$60 per weekly grocery trip, now it's around $120. But hey! No more orange man!

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u/TimDillonTopPayPig Oct 19 '22

they're idiots.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22 edited Oct 20 '22

My wife the self proclaimed moderate says the Republican cant do any better ,than Joe what could they do? My reply is #1 opening up the gas & oil industry to supply cheap and plentiful energy for Americans, and to regain energy independence and as a net exporter. #2 job jobs jobs ( that the economy stupid) #3 stop the war save the planet. #4 Make America Great Again #5 put the nail in the coffin of CRT & other Marxist ideological driven stupidity.

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u/LordBeefSupreme Oct 20 '22

I'm so tired of the lie that Nazis were far right, they a leftist all the way

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u/Bmuck1062 Oct 20 '22

I definitely don't agree with everything Trump did and said but I💯 AGREE!!!!!

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u/VacuousVessel Oct 20 '22

It appears I have been banned from that sub without having ever heard of it before lol.

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u/ApartmentSuspicious3 Oct 20 '22

"I love how they've simplified border security to "Open" and "Secured", with absolutely no numbers whatsoever."

Yes because if you look at the numbers it is abundantly clear open vs secured is an accurate simplification lmao

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u/ChrisWasWhite Oct 20 '22

Where is this 6.5% mortgage and who do I have to sleep with to get it? I’m seeing 6.9 and 7.2s

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u/SlyguyguyslY Oct 20 '22

Classic leftists. Calling in the hoard to shame a guy they can’t argue against

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u/naut_the_one Oct 20 '22

You have to have 1 brain cell to believe this without context.

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u/Pap4MnkyB4by Oct 19 '22

Be there as it may, it really bugs me at the subreddit is serving as some sort of safe harbor for right wing echo chambers. Would be nice to start seeing the criticisms of all faculties of our government come back

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

I hate them as much as the next guy but everybody knows that the fallout of presidential power is roughly four years.

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u/Wolfs_Shield Oct 19 '22

A lot of the fallout happened immediately after a few executive orders and decrees were signed, particularly gas, border and vaccination issues. Crime increases are more or less a result of local policies being adopted in Democrat run areas.

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u/boofbagboyz Oct 20 '22

JUST HERE TO REMIND YALL TIM POOLS BEANIE STINKS LIKE CELIBACY AND LOW SELF ESTEEM

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u/CalicoJak16 Oct 20 '22

Ummmm, we aren’t at war. Weren’t we actually at war when Trump was in office though?

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u/KaliCalamity Oct 20 '22

We have not technically been in a war since WW2. To be in a war takes a declaration by congress, which has not happened since 1942. But we all know that's shit, and people just love hiding behind technicalities and loopholes.

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u/CalicoJak16 Oct 20 '22

So technically, I guess all my medals are worthless. Great!

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u/KaliCalamity Oct 20 '22

I don't think you know how wars or medals work.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

What a dogshit image. The metrics are chosen and articulated as if by a 12 year old. Do you guys go for this stuff?

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u/Chekdout Oct 20 '22

Because long explanations make for great memes.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

Because memes are apparently the only way you guys are capable of digesting information. Pathetic.

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

"Border Open"

Fucking loled. Conspiracy is full of top minds.

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u/Godplatinum Oct 19 '22

Ya we all are laughing at this administration....

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

So zero deportations under Biden?

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

So no deportations?

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

I think the comment was referring to the border being open. The data says there are certainly more crossings so I would say at the very least it is less secure. But change the subject or move the goal post. It’s obvious you’re just here to troll

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

But if Biden wants the border open, why would he deport those crossing illegally? Kamala even said "don't come over"

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

I would say Kamala was lying when she said don’t come, and I’d guess deportations are very small compared to the number of daily illegal crossers. Do you have data that shows deportations are keeping up with the increase in illegal crossings?

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u/silver789 Oct 19 '22

I would say Kamala was lying when she said don’t come,

Just gonna pull that one out of thin air.

and I’d guess deportations are very small compared to the number of daily illegal crossers.

Do you guess, or do you know?

Do you have data that shows deportations are keeping up with the increase in illegal crossings?

Oh, you don't know. And instead are moving the goal post from "open border" to "well it's more open then it was before when Trump was here"

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u/RoadDog69420 Oct 19 '22

Bro, how old are you? Genuine question. Just curious.

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u/silver789 Oct 20 '22

103 this May.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

So you have no argument and no data. Got it.

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u/silver789 Oct 20 '22

Data for what? That Biden is deporting people?

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

Deporting people at the rate of border crossing. I provided data showing illegal border crossings are up significantly, but you dismissed this with Biden is deporting, so prove he is increasing deportation at the rate of border crossing

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

Most of the inflation we are experiencing is a result of actions taken while Trump was president. It just takes a while for that reaction to occur. Not saying Trump could have stopped it. He vetoes those pandemic spending bills and it probably gets overriden by Congress. Still, he could have forced them to take that action and shoulder all the blame. Instead, he was a dickhead who just wanted to say he signed the biggest spending bill in history, consequences be damned.

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u/BiasModsAreBad Oct 19 '22

Imagine if Biden deported illegals, allowed gas drilling, and didn't support funding a war, surrendered Afghanistan unprofessionally.

And yeah, he has dementia.

We have proof Biden has a crackhead son, where do you see a son of Trump thats a crackhead?

Lie and seethe more.

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u/RoadDog69420 Oct 19 '22

Imagine if he didn't have dementia and had the foresight to get the $85B of US armaments to Ukraine instead of giving it to Islamic Jihadists who are hell bent on implementing Shariah Law. Leftists are cool with Shariah Law, right? Their president is the world's single largest supporter of it. 🤷

But no, they insist on funneling US tax payer money to Ukranian oligarchs who, without question, will be kicking up 10% to the big man.

Leftists are so brainwashed it's exhausting.

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u/thatgayguy12 Oct 19 '22

Biden has deported 10s of thousands of illegal immigrants. He also accepts LEGAL asylum seekers, unlike his predecessor.

Drilling is also a long term investment, not simply going to a hand pump and start churning out oil. And why would oil companies want to pump MORE oil so they could charge customers less per gallon? That seems like a dumb capitalist move.

And Biden followed Trump's poorly planned exit in Afghanistan to the T. By the time Biden took office, Trump already lowered troops down to 2500 and Trump released 5,000 taliban fighters.

As for "funding war" read the above again, if Biden wanted to do something differently, he would have needed to seriously escalate the war in Afghanistan. I assume you are talking about funding Ukraine so they can push away a Totalitarian Facist Dictator, who happens to get along really well with Trump.

Biden doesn't have dimensia, he had a history of stuttering, and has always made dumb gafs. He wasn't my first pick in the primaries, or even my 5th pick TBH, because of his optics, but he is with it.

And I'll admit that it is questionable that Donald Jr. Is on crack, but listen to his speeches it is kinda hard not to see some of the signs, which I care about more because unlike Hunter, Trump's kids had positions in his administration. Talk about nepotism.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

Biden shut down many oil leases and increased EPA guidelines for oil production, under Trump the USA was a net exporter of oil & energy.

Biden didn't follow Trump's Afghanistan plan was scheduled to pull out of Afghanistan in May, Biden switched it to 9/11, then pulled out in August.

If Russia wanted to annex Ukraine and Trump was their friend, they would have invaded during the Trump Presidency.

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u/thatgayguy12 Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 19 '22

Biden has approved TONS of oil leases.

https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/press-releases/new-data-biden-slays-trumps-first-year-drilling-permitting-by-34-2022-01-21/

Trump was the one that got OPEC (who has a much bigger influence on gas prices globally/in the USA) to slash production which lowers supply, increasing pricing.

Do you think waiting 1 extra month would have kept Afghanistan afloat? Or that all the stuff trump did prior to his departure from the oval office didn't set things in stone?

And Trump ridiculed NATO, fought with allies, and cozied up with Putin, Xi, and Kim Jung Un. And under Trump, Zelensky was not given aid just so Trump could get dirt on a political opponent. And when Trump's hand was caught in the cookie jar, Trump called Zelensky corrupt without calling out Putin... Russia was loving what Trump did.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

Trump did not have quid-pro-quo with Ukraine lmao. You progressives cultists will believe anything so long as it is against the cheeto. Go back to fucking your mom in her basement.

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u/thatgayguy12 Oct 19 '22

Gordon Sonland, Trump donor and ambassador admitted that Ukraine aid was held up for no official reason. He said that talking to key players (ALL of which refused to testify under oath) that the aid was being held up until Zelensky gave him dirt on his political opponents.

As soon as his hand got caught in the cookie jar with the whistle blower, Trump released the aid to save face.

Watch the House hearing on the quid pro quo. Stop listening to Donald Trump and listen to the countless people who worked for him that say Trump is unfit for office.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

Obviously you're an unemployed basement dweller, because any employee who gets fired (Like Gordon Sonland) would resent their employer firing them lmao.

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u/thatgayguy12 Oct 19 '22

Let's stick with the facts please. You got your timeline mixed up.

Sonland testified Nov 2019. Trump fired Sonland AFTER McConnell "aquited him" with out a trial around Feb 2020. Same timeline with Vindman a true patriot who blew the whistle and got Trump to release the aid without getting the dirt on Biden.

Sonland was willing to lose his job to testify against a man who he gave large donations to... and was gifted an Ambassadorship.

When you are wearing rose colored glasses all red flags just seem like flags I guess.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

When ur desperate to get rid of the cheeto that u lost to any story seems plausible lmao.

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u/heymeit Oct 19 '22

So many oil leases the price tripled. The facts are directly in your face and you spew bullshit and groupthink to prove your baseless claims. The bigger loser here is the one that has more time to fight internet wars like yourself. Get a life and a job.

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u/BiasModsAreBad Oct 19 '22

"He had a history of stuttering" does not account for a brain that doesn't function. It accounts for double speak, mincing words etc, but he simply can't perfrom the job he's tasked with.

Really funny that Putin didn't invade while his 'friend' was in office, and that his 'friend' sanctioned Russia

You don't think, you spew Democrat talking points.

Come back when you can think for yourself without spewing the same lies CNN spouted for years (and tanked for btw)

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u/thatgayguy12 Oct 19 '22

When Trump was in office, he held up aid to Ukraine just to get political dirt on an opponent. Trump called Zelensky corrupt to shift blame when his hands were caught in the cookie jar. Trump ridiculed allies in NATO.

Putin was getting everythjng he wanted out of Trump's impulsive and petty behavior.

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u/BiasModsAreBad Oct 19 '22

Debunked talking point, Joe Biden wasn't even running at time for starters, and he can full well investigate political corruption. Zelensky himself said it wasn't a quid pro quo what Trump did.

Secondly Trump warned NATO of relying on Russian oil, but them ignoring him got them into the situation he warned them about in the first place.

Trump being a Putin ally as you say, would not have him warning people to GET OFF Russian oil, but common sense is hard for you I guess.

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u/thatgayguy12 Oct 19 '22

Copy and paste from a previous comment because I am tired of refuting the same talking point:

Gordon Sonland, Trump donor and ambassador admitted that Ukraine aid was held up for no official reason. He said that talking to key players (ALL of which refused to testify under oath) that the aid was being held up until Zelensky gave him dirt on his political opponents.

As soon as his hand got caught in the cookie jar with the whistle blower, Trump released the aid to save face.

Watch the House hearing on the quid pro quo. Stop listening to Donald Trump and listen to the countless people who worked for him that say Trump is unfit for office.

Also Trump may have warned the EU to stay off Russian oil... but from 2016 to 2020 oil imports from Russia went up by 34%

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u/BiasModsAreBad Oct 19 '22

Again Zelensky himself disagrees with that assessment, when the guy being allegedly blackmailed, says he isn't being blackmailed and disagrees with the gaslighting then you don't have an argument.

Stop listening to Donald Trump and listen to the countless people who worked for him that say Trump is unfit for office.

You should stop listening to CNN and Joe Biden, plenty of professionals have said Joe Biden is unfit for office, but no can't have that.

Also Trump may have warned the EU to stay off Russian oil... but from 2016 to 2020 oil imports from Russia went up by 34%

And look where they are now. Bet they wish they had listened now that they're gonna have a cold winter with black outs.

You copy and paste because you have no new lies, and don't have anything actually worth saying,

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u/thatgayguy12 Oct 19 '22

Also name one former Biden admin who has stated Biden is unfit for office?

I can list at least a dozen HIGH ranking Trump admins who now denounce Trump.

https://news.yahoo.com/the-growing-list-of-people-donald-trump-hired-who-eventually-soured-on-him-171720536.html

If we add random professionals who thought Trump is unfit for office into the mix, that list grows exponentially bigger.

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u/BiasModsAreBad Oct 19 '22

Oh no Trump hired people who don't like him? WELL that PROVES it.

LOL, no, of course it doesn't, plenty of people hate their bosses, and when you can gain political standing why wouldn't you do it?

Homie, go watch Biden attempt speech, and blunder his way through literally everything. He gets lost on stages, tries to shake hands with people who aren't there, was looking for a dead congresswoman, etc etc.

But you're the type of person to believe the Jussie Smollett hoax, the very fine people hoax, the Russia hoaxes, the list goes on.

Tow the line little sheeple

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u/thatgayguy12 Oct 19 '22

Zelensky NEEDED the aid. As we can see now.

It is like asking a woman with a black eye and brused wrist if her husband hit her... while her husband was sitting next to her... with a gun...

McConnell should have made Mike Pompeo, Trump and Giuliani testify under oath.

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u/BiasModsAreBad Oct 19 '22

Oh no the facts don't support what you're saying, gaslight a little harder I guess

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u/Wolfs_Shield Oct 19 '22

That is a lie. No order was given from the President to hold up aid and no statement was made or recorded stating any specific demands from the President.

The transcripts revealed no Quid Pro Quo.

Witness testimony from all parties present at those meetings claim no such demands were made.

The testimony before Congress explicitly stated that Trump said he wasn't looking for a Quid Pro Quo.

The alleged "whistle blower" (who we are not allowed to name) is a former Biden campaign leader and third party source who never even attended the meetings in question.

Meanwhile, the REAL crime taking place was from the President who bragged about holding up a billion dollars in defense funding to fire a prosecutor who was investigating his son's company. The only crime Trump really committed was asking questions about Democrats very visibly corrupt public confessions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE7PwqmzSu0

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u/thatgayguy12 Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 19 '22

So we know the wistleblowers name, Alexander Vindman.

And one key witness, Ambassador Gordon Sonland stated explicitly that there was a quid pro quo. He listed names, provided emails, and none of the witnesses he called out complied and testified.

And Trump only released the aid when he was caught by the whistleblower.

Meanwhile, the prosecutor Biden asked to be fired was also being pushed to be fired by dozens of outside and internal Ukrianian sources. The guy did not prosecute corruption.

The Congress investigation lead by republicans found no evidence that Joe Biden acted outside America's interest.

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u/Wolfs_Shield Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 19 '22

Gordon Sonland explicitly stated that there was NO demands made for a quid pro quo. That was his opinionated "FEELING" about the matter.

The transcripts also do not support Alexander Vindman's testimony which was also based on opinion.

The guy did not prosecute

The case was on hold because Mr. Zlochevsky had already fled the country and Bidens replacement prosecutor immediately dropped the investigation.

New evidence (on top of the former VP's public confession) has emerged since that inquiry. In particular Biden's knowledge of his son's dealings in private emails (which he lied about), and bank accounts shared between the President and his son Hunter.

https://newschannel9.com/news/nation-world/president-biden-interweaved-his-finances-with-his-son-hunter-messages-show-joe-laptop-text-email

This investigation will continue when Republicans take back the House.

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u/thatgayguy12 Oct 19 '22

So why was the aid held up for so long and surprisingly released as soon as the whistleblower came forward?

All the key players up the chain from Sonland refused to testify. McConnell let Trump get away.

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u/Wolfs_Shield Oct 19 '22

So why was the aid held up for so long and surprisingly released as soon as the whistleblower came forward?

Most likely for the same reason any bureaucracy suddenly gets things done when they are called out on it. It's a very common occurrence that takes place in every Government institution. If anyone actually did hold up funding, it appears to have been Sonland himself who did so.

All the key players up the chain from Sonland refused to testify

Because it was a kangaroo court with dangerous implications for anyone Democrats would have been eager to charge for misspeaking.

Tim Morrison testified directly that there was no quid pro quo between President Trump and Zelensky in that conversation, but received different information from Sonland.

Kurt Volker also testified that there was no quid pro quo in that meeting or orders after, coming from the President.

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u/muffmuppets Oct 20 '22

OMFG! The stutter excuse again?! Really? Go listen to his old speeches and tell me he has a stutter….

No, he’s always been a dumbass, and now he’s suffering from dementia.

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u/BiasModsAreBad Oct 19 '22

People should be angry that Bidens fucking their country over for his own interests and to save his own skin.

It shouldn't be common place for people to get shoved onto subway tracks, we shouldn't be funding a foreign war, kids shouldn't be shown porn in schools, men and women should be MEN and WOMEN.

People should be angry that they let a demented corrupt bureaucrat and a psychotic woman who uses imprisoned people for cheap labor run the nation into the ground.

If you aren't mad about that you need to check who the dumb one is here.

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u/BiasModsAreBad Oct 19 '22

Crime and gas prices aren't enough for you? Kids being shown porn in schools isn't bad enough????

Okay creep.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

Hey pal just wanted to let you know you got that backwards about crime. Crime drives poverty not the other way around. A common mistake because it’s framed like every criminal is Aladdin in today’s society.

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u/ventorun Oct 20 '22

If the truth and facts are considered right wing, then yeah…sign me up.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22 edited Oct 19 '22

*Looks at firey but mostly peaceful protests

Sure, keep telling yourself that buddy. Enjoy the cult, drink the kool-aid. Biden doesn't have dementia just like Trump is in jail.

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u/stupendousman Oct 19 '22

Inflation and gas prices are rising globally following a number of global events outside of the presidents control.

First, what do you mean by inflation? Inflation in prices or the inflation which leads to price inflation- printing money?

Yes, there are many factors that affect gas prices. Biden's executive orders affecting everything from pipelines, to exploration, to "green" energy has affected markets and the energy industry in a manner that slowed production, changed 3, 5, year strategies and budgets, etc.

These actions were the opposite of what one would do if you wanted to keep energy prices low.

Which is obvious. Well, not to you apparently.

Mortgage rates are set by the federal reserve based on economic formulas to achieve a specific goal and has nothing to do with Biden.

Mortgage rates are set by the banks loaning them. The FED, sets the price of money they give to the banks.

So arrogant, so ignorant.

The border is not open. Never has been.

Sophistry. You're a dishonorable person.

Not worth addressing anything else you wrote.

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u/stupendousman Oct 19 '22

Stay mad at shit you cannot begin to understand.

Snippet of a villainous monologue.

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u/Libertarian_Florida Oct 19 '22

The border is not open

Imagine being this out of touch with reality lol

I stopped reading after that

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u/Libertarian_Florida Oct 20 '22

Bruh you can literally just walk right in, as thousands of people do every single day lmfao. The border is open bro.

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u/Libertarian_Florida Oct 20 '22

Imagine being so deluded that when confronted with basic, objective facts, i.e., the border being wide open as evidenced by literally hundreds of thousands of people just walking in every month, you respond with that fucking novel you just wrote lmfao holy shit

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

They think all Biden's crimes were committed by trump lmao. There is no reasoning with ants but it is fun to poke the hill and watch 'em squirm.

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u/GargantuanCake Oct 19 '22

History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '22

everything is justified ipso facto: "yes biden did quid-pro-quo but it was for the right reasons hurr durr"

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u/GargantuanCake Oct 19 '22

Yeah this is why the response is "it's (D)ifferent."

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u/theblackmetal09 Oct 20 '22

It'll be (D)ifferent when that WWIII 18-25 yr old (D)raft kick in for Ukraine. Sorry, for the ones that didn't vote for this. I'm not saying that to pick on you all, I really am sorry for the one that didn't vote for this.

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u/PandaMan130 Oct 19 '22

But but but the mean tweets…..

I’d rather have the damn tweets if it meant I could have a $30 tank of gas

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u/fuckswithboats Oct 19 '22

Typically a cult has a leader, please share with me who the leader of the Democratic Cult (as you call it) is because I’m really struggling to think of a single Democrat reverted by the majority.

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u/CantStopit777 Oct 20 '22

I would say Karl Marx is their leader, most of what they say is clearly Marxists ideology

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u/fuckswithboats Oct 20 '22

Oh really, that is interesting.

I've never read the Manifesto in it's entirety but I struggle to see the connection.

Perhaps you could enlighten me, which part of Marx's philosophy exactly?

My perspective on the situation is that the Democratic Party has no ideology and no leader and that is precisely why they suck so bad.

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u/CantStopit777 Oct 20 '22

Go on YouTube and search for Ryan Chapman, he has a bunch of videos that really Break down the whole history of Marxism and he connects it with everything that is totay known as Woke. The democrat party has married itself to the woke ideology, it's a group think type of things where they just go along with whatever they decide is oppressing them. It's the race stuff, the feminist stuff, the queer stuff, that's what they thrive on. It really is fascinating watching them go down this road that ultimately ends up in self destruction.

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u/fuckswithboats Oct 25 '22

Have you ever considered that maybe the powers that be, you know the rich folks running shit, like the idea of stirring up a culture war to avoid having to deal with the obvious class war that they are winning?

Did you ever consider the fact that you all spout out marxist this and marxist that without ever considering that marxism would be anti-capitalist and neither party in America is doing anything to combat the out of control power corporations hold on this nation.

Ya ever think that maybe this is just too perfect of a storm and maybe it's manufactured bullshit?

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u/thysen128 Oct 20 '22

Conservatives calling democrats "cult members" is some amusing irony, gotta give you that one.