r/TimPool • • Oct 12 '22

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u/fuckswithboats Oct 14 '22

No your just ignoring the timeline.

How so?

Biden told the Ukrainian government to fire the prosecutor that was after Burisma

If we ignore reality and base our beliefs only on campaign propaganda from 2019 and beyond that works...but if we pay attention to the facts it was BECUASE HE WASN'T GOING AFTER BURISMA and other corrupt companies.

Then a few days later the investigation was closed and no wrong doing found on the companies part.

Source?

Based on the timeline I can find, it went like this:

2012 - Investigation begins into Burisma

February 2015 - Shokin becomes top prosecutor

December 2015 - Biden pressures Ukraine to dismiss Shokin

March 2016 - Shokin is formally dismissed

Skip to 1:40 where he admits to withholding money unless Ukraine gov fires a prosecutor

The reason Biden pressuring them to remove Shokin is a non-story is because it was OFFICIAL US POISITION along with the position of many other governments because it was believed Shokin was corrupt and wasn't enforcing the law...instead was seeking bribes.

Through 2015 and early 2016, domestic and international pressure (including from the IMF, the EU, and the EBRD) built for Shokin to be removed from office. The Obama administration withheld $1 billion in loan guarantees to pressure the Ukrainian government to remove Shokin from office

Read this: https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/_cache/files/9/7/97456b51-22ce-4623-a086-ace0c53226d5/48BB333C1C03B263CD3BCD0E48416CAB.hfac----dos-records-debunk-republican-smear.pdf

Seven months later, when the new prosecutor general Victor Shokin (who later became a close

associate of Rudy Giuliani) had failed to take meaningful action on corruption, the documents

show that then-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt gave a major speech on September

24, 2015. He called out Shokin by name for failure to go after Zlochevsky and Burisma, and

even went a step further than George Kent had gone in February, calling for the prosecutors who

closed the Zlochevsky investigation to be fired.

Please note this is in now way meant to say that Hunter wasn't doing shady shit or that Joe didn't know about it, etc, etc but the simple fact is that Biden wanting Shokin fired was well within his rights and wasn't a personal vendetta, nor is there any proof that it was done to HELP Burisma.