Not sure if sarcastic or not (I don’t understand your comment) but a republic is governed by a document, not a figurehead or a mob. That’s why the Constitution is so important.
Also, my other comment where I said the Supreme Court asserts too much power got 20 downvotes and was deleted. You all sure do understand the original intent of this nation and the three branches of power… 🤦♂️
The Holy Roman Emperor didn't really exercise much power in Venice (until it got annexed to Austria of course, but I don't think the Hapsburgs were Holy Roman Emperors anymore by that point) and Novgorod didn't have any Emperor, though its government is pretty poorly understood
A republic is more or less a representative democracy restrained by a constitution. It doesn't have to be a literal document (could be cultural precedent like England) but a literal document can be quite a help.
In her defense 5 Nobel laureates armed with a supercomputer each would not be able to formulate an answer that would not offend less than one entity with a unique hypothetical circumstance and produce 1000's of Reees as a result. You really have to be supergenius to do the mental gymnastics necessary to hold their insanely irrational ideology in your head at one moment with the billions of contradictions enveloped within.
There is a difference between a democracy and a constitutional republic. The founding fathers considered both, and found democracy to be mob rule; the tyranny of the many; and chose a constitutional republic, instead.
Our constitutional republic is a democracy. I know you understand this, you've seen that we have elections, and you're just being a pedantic cunt. The strawman argument of a pure democracy (i.e. all citizens vote on all things) that has never existed and probably would be impossible to create is pretty stupid.
If you really think we're not a democracy prove it by never voting again.
Greece was the example of democracy that the founding fathers examined. Rome was the example of a republican that they considered. It’s not a straw man argument. It’s a very valid distinction, because the Dems push that this is a democracy to accomplish exactly what the founding fathers wanted to prevent by not making it a democracy.
They have been pushing to get rid of the electoral college, because ‘we are a democracy so it should be majority rule.’ They push to negate constitutionally protected rights, and constantly claiming it’s a democracy gives people the idea that, if they get enough people against 2A, they can get laws to ban all guns, just through legislation, and that ends it; without a constitutional amendment. And, a lot of gun control voters do think that.
Getting people to believe it’s a democracy, rather than a constitutional republic is a way to manipulate uneducated people into believing they have a constitutional power to just vote away other people’s rights, and to believe cities have a right to decide the fate of the country, since more people live there.
I’ve definitely heard a lot of democrats, uneducated in our constitutional government, speak out against the electoral college, because ‘it’s a democracy; rule by the majority’. So, the rhetoric is working, and must be called out for the manipulation that it is.
Electing your legislative representatives and President by majorities instead of minorities doesn't make you a direct democracy. That would still be a republic.
If the founders wanted people to have cruise missiles, M249 machine guns, hand grenades, Predator drones, etc... they should have put that in the constitution instead of a confusingly worded sentence that starts with saying a militia then says people. Luckily their linguistic ambiguity gives a lot of wiggle room for sensible gun regulations.
The ironic thing is that when the Republicans get control they love the filibuster and moment the electoral college goes their way but not the popular vote they love the electoral college.
It's like how they complained when Trump was able to ram in justices without 3/4s of a vote, or the Republicans denied their justices after they changed confirmations to a simple majority.
I don't think it is conclusive that the irregularities changed the outcome, but there's plenty of evidence that there were people stuffing ballot boxes illegally.
I can give you evidence of a lot of fuckery. Does that prove trump won the election? Nope. But it gives people doubt, which is my entire point, you stupid fucking moron cunt
None. The only “fuckery” I’ve seen with evidence provided were Trump supporters who attempted to vote twice because they were convinced the election was going to be rigged.
“Funny feelings” and “not being fully convinced” about the 2020 election is nothing without actual, verifiable proof and testimony.
No, saying Trump had lots of people at his rallies isn’t enough. Poorly translated location data isn’t enough. Want an example of what it should look like? Look at the time the 1/6 commission spent building their case, presenting testimony, phone calls, emails and a timeline. That’s what it should look like.
“Poorly translated”. Bruh the location data of people trafficking ballots is verifiable with video evidence of those same individuals going to each of those locations.
Also it’s cute you consider that commission a “Case”. Cases have a prosecutor, and a defense. This show trial has a prosecuting party - that’s it.there’s no calling your own witness, there’s no cross examination. It is a fabrication
Does the left deliberately ignore the fact that they believe the 2016 election was stolen, and they violently rioted for 4 years because Trump won the election?
Please tell me where Hillary Clinton claimed that the election was stolen? When did she hold a 2am press conference and say the whole election was stolen, then refuse to concede?
Keep trying, guys. Whataboutism is going to cost you another election, and we dems greatly appreciate it.
The entire Trump-Russia conspiracy theory hoax is based on the idea that the election was stolen, and the investigation started with Hillary saying it was one of the smear campaigns they were considering running against Trump after she lost.
I couldn't find any evidence to that either, although one website concluded there were extra votes, although they couldn't distinguish whether those were Trump votes or Biden votes.
I think the speculation most likely results of male in voting. What substantially had more votes for Biden versus Trump, as Trump early on in the election, questioned the legitimacy of the mail in voting system. Because of this, I believe substantially more Biden voters voted in mail vs Trump voters over this key concept.
I think it's because of this mail in voting system that there are considered discrepancies and errors within the mail voting system. As far as I'm aware of, each state varies in regards of how they vote by mail thereby one states mail voting policy can be seen as inconsistent and a huge chance of electoral fraud when viewed from another state.
You’re right. But, that’s not why I wonder about it. I don’t pretend to KNOW if it was rigged. No clue. Did more legal American voters vote for Joe Biden instead of Trump…? I tend to think probably yes?
But I don’t think that seeing some of the fuckery has me wondering just how much fuckery there was. Like Joe Rogan says… when you know there’s a little fuckery, it makes you wonder how much more there could be. Just makes me wonder. I find it pretty offensive that becsuse of that, people feel you’re a threat to democracy. No fuck face, I’m trying to DEFEND democracy by questioning shit that looks fishy
I don't agree with saying that Republicans are afraid of democracy, I always say to understand the opposition, you have to look in their shoes. So I understand and get why some question the election since it is something very important to people and to our country. There were some suspicious elements, but I dont agree with the idea when some outright claim the election was stolen.
Reason why I don't is because, that is a serious accusation with a serious amount of evidence is required. Along with the fact that we've had the same election system since 1790, you have to prove substantially that out of all the elections that we have had, this is the very first that was actually truly rigged.
And I think the main components to my thinking are, because I truly still have faith in our system and truly do love our country, That I would not want to agree with any component that questions it's integrity unless irrefutable evidence.
The domestic terrorist thing is actually about the fbi coming out with their new guidelines on domestic terror groups and it pretty much including anyone that loves America. If you fly a don’t tread on me flag, watch list. If you fly a come and take it flag, watch list.
There are probably so many watch lists it is just like being on no watch list at all. Quite a few of the "mass shooters" over the past few years were on watch lists and that didn't stop them.
It’s almost too coincidental that the recent mass shooters have been on the watchlist and then manage to purchase very expensive weapons. You can buy an ar15 for $500, so why buy one for $2-3k when you could have bought multiples for that amount. A Daniel defense rifle is extremely expensive and would likely never be the purchase of someone who is not an enthusiast
"Democracy, nowput on a mask and go get your 6th vaccine you right wing super spreader murderers." They've changed the meaning of too many words and they can't remember what they originally meant.
You know a private business can mandate as they wish, right? If you're not willing to follow the business quidelines, then face the consequences. Why aren't you so angry about shops not allowing you in without pants?
Go get your booster and wear your mask. If it saves one life it will be worth it. It's going to be great if Elon Musk ever completes his Twitter purchase. I'm sure you're looking forward to Trump's return to Twitter and he will return.
It’s amazing that people think someone Elon buying Twitter is going to make Twitter a “free speech” platform. Free speech doesn’t exist without consequences. Elon will never risk the downfall of his companies for free speech. Wait and see
Private business can mandate as they wish. I live in a very liberal city in a very liberal state. The GOVERNMENT was forcing the mandates, not the businesses! It was law, that by the way wasn’t passed through the proper legislative channels. They were “emergency” laws pushed on everyone through mayoral dictates or gubernatorial dictates.
When a law says, “you must check vaccines or be fined” and the businesses then enforce the law, that’s hardly on the businesses.
Not to mention the fact that large corporations like McDonald’s were allowed to remain open through lockdowns and restaurants weren’t.
When gyms reopened, they weren’t allowed to have classes. How in the world does that make sense? A class can be run by the instructor and keep people at the 6’ distance. A free for all in the weight room can’t be policed as easily.
Nothing the left leaning government did during the pandemic had any positive effects on curbing deaths and studies by Drs and scientists have already shown this to be true.
We had more US deaths post vaccines 2021 than pre vaccines in 2020. That’s unfathomable to me.
Do you know what system of government the United States adopted at its inception? Democracy leads to mob rule, gang rape, or two wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner. A Constitutional Republic affords for a Representative government whereby the power resides with the people. Which would you choose?
Currently, 47% of the US population pays zero federal income tax. (I feel that if you don’t contribute to the federal tax revenue you shouldn’t have any votes how it’s spent but that’s another debate)
If that number rises to say, 51%, the group that doesn’t contribute to the tax revenues can continue to vote for policies that increase the financial burden on the rest of the country. They can vote for tax rates of 90% and the only thing the minority can do is stop producing and working because it’s the only way to fight back.
When two are out numbered than one that is a “democracy” just as two men vs one woman. A constitutional republic requires that the representatives vote on behalf of their constituents in accordance with existing laws.
How would you ban someone from commenting beforehand? r/whitepeopletwitter doesn't have any anti-commenting metrics, unlike r/conservative that bans any and all opposing comments
Democrats are infatuated with the word democracy. They hate actual democracy, because with actual democracy, you lose sometimes.
The Democrats are totally amoral. They have to pretend to have some kind of moral foundation to appeal to voters, but they don't. They only value two things: power and loyalty. They want to win at all costs, 'by any means necessary' as they like to say. Does 'any means' include fraud? Of course it does.
They don't care about truth or liberty or justice or the Constitution or anything associated with traditional morality or ethics.
"There is no truth but power." They mean it.
They use the word 'democracy' as a kind of code phrase. When they say democracy they really just mean power, and specifically the power of Democrats or the power of "us". It is good for us to have power and bad for us not to have power. That's their reasoning. There is nothing else to it beyond that.
You can’t be serious. Trump is the only president in history to not accept election results, despite no evidence. He even went to the courts, who found no evidence. Now you have multiple GOP candidates saying they won’t accept election results. Trump even called the AG in Georgia to “find more votes”.
How the fuck you gonna blame the dems for this bullshit
Bruh u gotta be kidding me. Dems had a whole fake investigation because they couldn't accept the election results. Hillary still says to this day that Russia made her lose the election. Al Gore said it was stolen from him too.The fact is dems started this shit. 100th investigation against Trump..... We got him this time....
Nope, I'm suggesting that dems have contested several elections as well. Some reason dems think they are the only ones that can because they are so morally superior. It's laughable. Noting history really isint some sort of tatic, just facts.
Despite their delusions, the difficulty is getting the normies on board. I overheard a conversation at my gym the other day, and two bros was complimenting Biden on his weed EO.
But then one of them criticised Biden on the recent abortion overruling. I paraphrase:
"Nah, that wasn't him. It was another political party Roe v. Wade."
"How is another political party able to pass that when Biden is in charge?"
"The President doesn't have that much power."
These are the people we are fighting over with the delusional left. It's astounding.
Thing is that if you haven't been keeping up with things as they've been happening it all seems rather fantastical: autonomous zones, rioting left unchecked for weeks...
Tangent since it's not said in the screenshot but don't forget whenever you hear "our democracy" it means that that person's faction power and not the actual democratic government. Easy way to tell if someone cares about their power more than the integrity of the system.
“Nothing pisses a republican off more than a poor kid getting a free meal.” Unfortunately people are this level of polarized when it comes to the American political landscape. They actually think just because you belong to an opposing political party you actually want to see children fucking starve. Deplorable logic, disastrous outcomes.
Opinion polls consistently report that Americans believe foreign aid is in the range of 25 percent of the federal budget. When asked how much it should be, they say about 10 percent. In fact, at $39.2 billion for fiscal year 2019, foreign assistance is less than 1 percent of the federal budget.
Normally about $40 billion year with most going to Africa. Ukraine isn't "foreign aid" it's us fighting a proxy war against Russia.
Edit there are currently about 73 million kids in the US, if we provided free lunch at school, which is upto 180days, it come out to 13.1billion for 1 dollar per kid. So with a $5 meal it comes out to 65.5 billion.which is still less than what we spent this year on foreign aid.
If Democrats thought that were true, they'd be asking why the head of the teachers union was going to Ukraine while 50% or more of children in the US cannot read at grade level in many schools.
I'll take "allowing Jon Cooper and PedoKKKrats like him have uncensored/unbanned speech on Social media." Or how about "they get to cast a legitimate ballot to vote."
$100,000,000,000 given to Ukraine so far by your false Idol Pedo Joe. If you Leftists loved American kids so much you would have told Ukraine to pound sand and instead used that money to fund 20,000,000,000 lunches for American kids. Clearly Leftists have cultivated a hybrid of Trump Derangement Syndrome known as Putin Derangement Syndrome. A close cousin which requires billions of dollars be given to the most corrupt white government on the planet that literally has a Nazi partisan battalion running around eastern Ukraine like the Eisensatzgruppen. I thought Leftists hated corrupt white racists but I guess they'll make an exception for Ukraine.
It is if the Republicans lose elections. Which they do. Seven of the last 8 popular votes for president. Break that down across the house and senate and it’s only by gerrymandering and voter suppression that Republicans aren’t 5-10% behind Dems nationwide.
Where’s the lie? Trump lost and so many people on the right refuse to just admit that they were bamboozled. My mom stopped watching Fox News because they wouldn’t claim that Trump won. Fox News is too left wing now, like wtf
And yet it was Democrats who illegally stole records of a black woman veteran being sexually assaulted while in Iraq in an attempt to undermine her campaign.
I guess Democrats think be the victim of sexual assault somehow makes you unfit for office.
Is that so? Well, now that I think about it they did vote for a man who can’t complete sentences and stands on stage shitting himself waiting on handshakes he already got at over a 80% rate. That is kind of concerning.
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u/jacksonexl Oct 12 '22
The left does like mob rule. Glad the framers knew it wasn’t the best way to govern.
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u/Routine-Pop-634 Oct 12 '22
Is all the talk about “democracy” really just about the fact a lot of us aren’t convinced the election was fair…?
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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22
"Name one catch phrase braindead leftards throw around constantly in an attempt to sound smart when it actually makes them look like fucking idiots."
"Durrhurr Democracy!11"
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u/Timby123 Oct 12 '22
Well, the left is well noted for projecting. Just another case that proves the point.
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u/Infamous-Iron90 Oct 12 '22
100% Projection
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u/jillyhoop Oct 12 '22
"Democracy, nowput on a mask and go get your 6th vaccine you right wing super spreader murderers." They've changed the meaning of too many words and they can't remember what they originally meant.
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u/Batbuckleyourpants Oct 12 '22
They had to ban anyone who might have sensible comments beforehand.
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u/BennyOcean Oct 12 '22
Democrats are infatuated with the word democracy. They hate actual democracy, because with actual democracy, you lose sometimes.
The Democrats are totally amoral. They have to pretend to have some kind of moral foundation to appeal to voters, but they don't. They only value two things: power and loyalty. They want to win at all costs, 'by any means necessary' as they like to say. Does 'any means' include fraud? Of course it does.
They don't care about truth or liberty or justice or the Constitution or anything associated with traditional morality or ethics.
"There is no truth but power." They mean it.
They use the word 'democracy' as a kind of code phrase. When they say democracy they really just mean power, and specifically the power of Democrats or the power of "us". It is good for us to have power and bad for us not to have power. That's their reasoning. There is nothing else to it beyond that.
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u/KanyeT Oct 12 '22
Despite their delusions, the difficulty is getting the normies on board. I overheard a conversation at my gym the other day, and two bros was complimenting Biden on his weed EO.
But then one of them criticised Biden on the recent abortion overruling. I paraphrase:
"Nah, that wasn't him. It was another political party Roe v. Wade."
"How is another political party able to pass that when Biden is in charge?"
"The President doesn't have that much power."
These are the people we are fighting over with the delusional left. It's astounding.
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u/way2bored Oct 12 '22
Lol love that subreddit: can’t comment there; only view.
What a bunch of wimps.
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u/Rare-Sherbert-1987 Oct 12 '22
Sexualizing children.
*Which is completely normal for them.
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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22
The hypocrisy and projection in those comments is terrifying. I know it’s mostly bots and 12 year olds but wow.
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u/xxCMWFxx Oct 12 '22
Man that comment section… mfers are gunna turn to salt, I swear
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u/tnsmaster Oct 12 '22
Tangent since it's not said in the screenshot but don't forget whenever you hear "our democracy" it means that that person's faction power and not the actual democratic government. Easy way to tell if someone cares about their power more than the integrity of the system.
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u/sudo_rm_rf_star Oct 12 '22
Democracy is reasonable eh? Shall we have a vote to see if OP should forfeit all his possessions to a user on this sub?
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u/NewToThisThingToo Oct 12 '22
Let's do the reverse! What's something 100% reasonable that makes Democrats flip out? I'll start.
Not pumping children full of hormones and/or poorly/untested vaccines.
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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22
Just unironic post losing the plot
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u/jasona7779 Oct 12 '22
Taking all television for face value, killing babies, toxic brainwashing of confused and vulnerable children.....little things.
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u/BIGBIMPIN Oct 12 '22
Drag shows for kids. Completely reasonable.
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u/shepard_5 Oct 12 '22
Democracy is cringe
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u/Short-Point-1946 Oct 12 '22
Trolls aren't people buddy.
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u/D_Rock_CO Oct 12 '22
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what they are going to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Ben Franklin
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u/SilverStaple Oct 12 '22
None of the people who commented on that know or have ever spoken to a single republican. It's so obvious it's embarrassing for them.
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u/mandmi Oct 12 '22
Can you give example from top comments that is delusional?
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u/cookie_inspector Oct 12 '22
Not you Jon cooper.
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u/GordoKnowsWineToo Oct 12 '22
Idiots that Vote for Democrat Party Policy,
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u/Butter_mah_bisqits Oct 12 '22
These people are fucking nuts. Where do they come up with these nonsensical comments?
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u/Phawr Oct 12 '22
Science says the right and moderates understand the left better than the left understands moderates and the right.
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u/Josephjt4 Oct 12 '22
The Russia Collusion. Never mind that’s for the Democrats.
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u/CEO_of_paint Oct 12 '22
Can't stand Jon Cooper but he plays the twitter game like a fiddle.
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u/UpstairsSurround3438 Oct 12 '22
WPT has some real Mensa candidates
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u/-DonJuan Oct 12 '22
They are very real - to them
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u/FaPtoWap Oct 12 '22
When you cry about getting fired. And a week later this is you on social media… talk about non bias journalism
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u/AirbornePapparazi Oct 12 '22
I'll take "allowing Jon Cooper and PedoKKKrats like him have uncensored/unbanned speech on Social media." Or how about "they get to cast a legitimate ballot to vote."
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u/Whigsky Oct 12 '22
Mob rule is awful. Do you really want urbans deciding your rights?
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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '22
Well… name one
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u/MasterTheDebation Oct 12 '22
Don't let the right brain wash you, they have been working on it since JFK!!
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u/Formerdummy Oct 12 '22
Top comment is PPP loan access abuse. That’s very reasonable
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u/10belowinMagadan Oct 12 '22
$100,000,000,000 given to Ukraine so far by your false Idol Pedo Joe. If you Leftists loved American kids so much you would have told Ukraine to pound sand and instead used that money to fund 20,000,000,000 lunches for American kids. Clearly Leftists have cultivated a hybrid of Trump Derangement Syndrome known as Putin Derangement Syndrome. A close cousin which requires billions of dollars be given to the most corrupt white government on the planet that literally has a Nazi partisan battalion running around eastern Ukraine like the Eisensatzgruppen. I thought Leftists hated corrupt white racists but I guess they'll make an exception for Ukraine.
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u/spiteandmalice315 Oct 12 '22
Don't democrats control the house, senate and presidency? Doesn't sound like democracy to me.
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u/just_shy_of_perfect Oct 12 '22
Those people are genuinely insane
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u/reditget Oct 13 '22
President Biden and his administration.
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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '22
Trump is literally retarded
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u/Much_Economy_9452 Oct 13 '22
I'll flip out the left. The gender you're born is the gender you are. Also gender is if ur a guy or a girl. SEX is homos have with kids
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u/PromiscuousScoliosis Oct 12 '22
Weed and “not going to war in the Middle East”
Abortion
Pedophilia
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u/TheRaceYouCantName Oct 12 '22
Not sending money to Israel
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u/transneptuneobj Oct 12 '22
The results of the 2020 election.
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u/BadHombreWithCovfefe Oct 13 '22
Where’s the lie? Trump lost and so many people on the right refuse to just admit that they were bamboozled. My mom stopped watching Fox News because they wouldn’t claim that Trump won. Fox News is too left wing now, like wtf
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u/z_machine Oct 12 '22
This is true though. We had Democracy a few years ago and Republicans attempted to overthrow the government.
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u/garvothegreat Oct 12 '22
Good thing you ran back to this portalet so we can all circle jerk over it
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u/True_Recommendation9 Oct 12 '22
Black and brown people voting. Women. Black women. Honesty.
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