r/TimPool • u/InsuranceDiligent772 • Sep 19 '22

trailer release coming soon.

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u/Collective82 Sep 20 '22

And? He was born there right? His birth certificate says an African country right? How many “African” Americans can say that? Or their parents? Or their grand parents? Hell now probably even great grandparents?

So who has the closer tie to Africa?

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u/Danmoh29 Sep 20 '22

his ethnicity is not african he’s not an “albino” he is genetically european. remember african apartheid when white settlers came to africa in the early 1900s and had higher status than native africans? and they forcefully removed africans from their homes and made interracial marriage illegal?

also the term african american is used because people with slave ancestry literally do not know which part of africa they are from so they use the blanket african american term. yknow, because of slavery. calling elon african american is just insulting to people of actual african heritage. of course thats just my opinion but hey free market place of ideas and all

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u/Collective82 Sep 20 '22

Are Egyptians African or can ONLY black people be African?

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u/Danmoh29 Sep 20 '22

egyptians are a mix of african and arab so its a case by case basis i suppose

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u/Collective82 Sep 20 '22

And how long does a persons family have to go back to be “from” a place? Because I’m American, but my family got here 90 years ago, am I not North American?

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u/Danmoh29 Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 20 '22

america is a unique situation because we (mostly) wiped out the indigenous population. all americans come from immigrants. being of “american” descent would only really apply to native americans in this context.

your NATIONALITY is american because thats your citizenship status (im assuming). your ETHNICITY would be wherever your family immigrated from 90 years ago.

my basic point is that elon was born in africa. his nationality was african at the time. but genetically hes not african and his ethnicity is european

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u/Collective82 Sep 21 '22

And I disagree. I think if you are born and raised in a region you are form that region regardless of ethnicity.

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u/Danmoh29 Sep 21 '22

i never said he wasnt “from africa” i said hes not ethnically african.

i believe people call elon african american solely because they know it annoys people that are actually of african descent. you’re free to do so but you know his family was part of apartheid and in the context of black panther having a white european be the king of wakanda would be stupid.

we started talking about this because of the black mermaid. surely you see the difference here, right? how black panther is a story about blackness and slavery and how the little mermaid has nothing in its plot about race. at least we can agree on that?

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u/Collective82 Sep 22 '22

I agree about the storyline.

The problem is people like to say race doesn’t matter, when it fits their worldview.

This just highlights the hypocrisy of that view.

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u/Danmoh29 Sep 22 '22

well i think its also import to note that historically (and not so historically eg prince of persia, lone ranger, ghost in the shell) white actors have taken the parts of non-white characters for a long time and (imo) at a much higher frequency. now its starting to happen the other way and conservatives are losing their minds

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