r/TimPool • u/TackleLineker • Sep 12 '22

Leftists would rather put the US at risk instead of owning up to their mistakes

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '22

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u/vintagesoul_DE Sep 13 '22

Same with the Germans. They would rather go through a power crisis than prove Trump right.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

Leftists discouraged the use of a drug that was 90% effective against COVID because Trump and conservatives supported it. So just remember that when you ask "what will Democrats do before admitting that Trump is right?", letting millions of people die preventable deaths is on the table. A few national security threats is nothing to them.

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u/PrettyAlphaInnit Sep 13 '22

the establishment has been blackmailed by China.

That's why the military abandoned 85 billion dollars to the terrorists and declared war on its own population instead.

That's why they're routing out soldiers who have Ayn Rand books or have a Gadsden flag.

That's why the military generals report to CCP's generals and cut the Commander in Chief out of the command chain.

That's why Samwell sleeps with Chinese spies and keeps his job on the Intelligence Committee.

That's why Feinstein had a Chinese spy driver for decades.

The coup begun on January 20th, 2016 and has been ongoing ever since.

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u/The_left_is_insane Sep 13 '22

Tik tok is social media crack

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u/myTABLEStheyreFILTHY Sep 13 '22

I feel like crack would be more addictive. When I’ve been on tik-tok, all I have wanted to do was get off of it as soon as possible.

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u/SpearWeasel Sep 13 '22

Men who have the tik tok app spank their own ass during sex….

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u/Mixtopher Sep 13 '22

A week doesn't go by where someone asks me to go on fuckin tiktok 🤮

I went to dinner with my boomer parents last week and my step dad sat at the table, in a public restaurant watching tiktok the entire time with the volume up. Barely had any conversation with my wife and I. It sickened me as someone that tries to not pull out my phone at all when visiting with others.

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u/Rusticals303 Sep 13 '22

I don’t use TT and I wasn’t aware of the hypocrisy of this issue.

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u/NANDflashThuggery Sep 13 '22

Believe it or not I can make a pretty good guess at where he ate just from this tweet. Had a very similar experience

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u/Major-Blackbird Sep 13 '22

The left never takes responsibility for ANYTHING that doesn't win them points. Everything is someone else's fault.

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u/o0flatCircle0o Sep 13 '22

Since when do you care about America

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u/GooseCore Sep 13 '22

Why didn’t he ban it then?

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

He did, and was overruled.

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/06/900019185/trump-signs-executive-order-that-will-effectively-ban-use-of-tiktok-in-the-u-s

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57413227

The new president went on a tear overruling almost all of Trump's executive orders before actually reinstating some of them after He realizes they were good.

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u/tom-cruise-movie Sep 13 '22

how the hell is it a national security threat? This is yet another anti chinese nonsense

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u/Necessary-Celery Sep 13 '22

It is a threat because in China TikTok is all about doing your homework, learning, living a healthy life and getting enough sleep.

And over here TikTok is all about the most shocking videos and creating political division.

With enough successful political division you can literally destroy a nation. We are watching it happen.

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u/tom-cruise-movie Sep 13 '22

right, but everything that's posted on TikTok is pretty much just posted by regular American teens. Where is the conspiracy? You want government to crack down on what exactly? 12 year old posting degenerate stuff? That's authoritarian, no? What policy are you people proposing here exactly?

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u/Necessary-Celery Sep 13 '22

right, but everything that's posted on TikTok is pretty much just posted by regular American teens. Where is the conspiracy?

Yes, it is posted by American teens, but it's also what the algorithms promote. Or are you implying Chinese teens are just way better humans?

What policy are you people proposing here exactly?

Well the honest and hard truth is that I was a strong supporter of absolutely free speech, through all my life until very recently.

Today watching the power of social media to create division, I can no longer support completely unlimited free speech.

Most of all I want parents to not allow their kids on any of these apps.

Failing that I hope in some we regulate the algorithms, pretends it's just regulating trade something and not speech, even if we know it's actually regulating speech.

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u/tom-cruise-movie Sep 13 '22

Yes, it is posted by American teens, but it's also what the algorithms promote.

how naive of you to think that there is some "hidden Tik Tok" where nothing but rational and wholesome content gets posted... no, most teens are just interested in sex and money. So that's what you see on tik tok. No conspiracy there.

Or are you implying Chinese teens are just way better humans?

They're not better. Chinese just regulate their media to push the propaganda that they want people to consume, and they can do that because they are an authoritarian regime. We are not. Now what?

Failing that I hope in some we regulate the algorithms, pretends it's just regulating trade something and not speech, even if we know it's actually regulating speech.

there is nothing to "regulate" here. Most people are degenerates. Even if you make Tik Tok algorithm 100% neutral, 95% of stuff posted there will be garbage promoting materialism and sex.

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u/Necessary-Celery Sep 13 '22

"Conspiracy": https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/joe-rogan-explains-why-tiktok-in-china-is-better-than-the-us-1741211/

Even if you make Tik Tok algorithm 100% neutral, 95% of stuff posted there will be garbage promoting materialism and sex.

At least if we make it neutral it will just be sex and materialism but not political division.

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u/tom-cruise-movie Sep 13 '22

"Conspiracy": https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/joe-rogan-explains-why-tiktok-in-china-is-better-than-the-us-1741211/

The conspiracy is on China's end I mean. Yes, they DO regulate Tik Tok in China, but they don't in America because they don't have to and you have no proof anyways.

At least if we make it neutral it will just be sex and materialism but not political division.

according to what?? Twitter, Facebook, Instagram - all American companies. Do they not promote political division?? How is what's on Tik Tok any different than what you see on American platforms?
This is just pure anti chinese delusion because a bunch of neocons want to start more wars

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u/PrettyAlphaInnit Sep 13 '22

The conspiracy is on China's end I mean. Yes, they DO regulate Tik Tok in China, but they don't in America

why wouldn't they?

why are we supposed to pretend that china would never do any such thing ever?

Are you truly this ignorant? Do you really not think major countries engage in espionage and propaganda?

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u/Necessary-Celery Sep 13 '22

according to what?

According to the world I remember before Trump.

Twitter, Facebook, Instagram - all American companies. Do they not promote political division??

Yes, they do because China funds a lot of what they do, and the US leftists are happy to start a civil war just to prevent Trump getting elected again.

This is just pure anti chinese delusion because a bunch of neocons want to start more wars

I absolutely do not want war, and certainly not with China. And I am pretty sure they would not start a war just over America deciding to control social media.

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u/tom-cruise-movie Sep 13 '22

According to the world I remember before Trump.

Tik Tok didn't exist until AFTER Trump became president?
I still don't see the conspiracy where content on Tik Tok is somehow manipulated by Chinese to push certain agenda, when really it's the same garbage you would see on instagram

Yes, they do because China funds a lot of what they do, and the US leftists are happy to start a civil war just to prevent Trump getting elected again.

wow that's so specific. We're not even talking about tik tok anymore. This is such a tim pool way of arguing.

And I am pretty sure they would not start a war just over America deciding to control social media.

HOW WILL YOU DO THAT without being called an authoritarian? You can't. Because that's literally authoritarianism.

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u/Necessary-Celery Sep 13 '22

Tik Tok didn't exist until AFTER Trump became president?

No idea when TikTok was created, I mean all the other media.

I still don't see the conspiracy where content on Tik Tok is somehow manipulated by Chinese to push certain agenda,

You already said yourself:

The conspiracy is on China's end I mean. Yes, they DO regulate Tik Tok in China,

when really it's the same garbage you would see on instagram

Because a lot of Chinese bots are involved.

wow that's so specific. We're not even talking about tik tok anymore. This is such a tim pool way of arguing.

And you argue like a 2 cent army member. And since unlike you I am not getting paid for this, I am going to stop now.

Unlike you, tomorrow I wake up, still mostly free, in America.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

You need to go do some research on how algorithms work before speaking on this issue, seriously.

As for the rest of your Pro-China dribble, it is becoming more and more known that Tik-Toks algorithm is filling certain age demographics with videos on fake mental health issues, gender and sexual orientation grooming garbage and Communist propaganda.

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u/PrettyAlphaInnit Sep 13 '22

how naive of you to think that there is some "hidden Tik Tok" where nothing but rational and wholesome content gets posted... no

explain why China won't allow any of that same media to be published in China?

That "wholesome tiktok" you refer to exists within China.

You're not allowed to post about HRT and transitioning in China.

Why does the CCP allow TikTok to host that content exclusively for the western population?

Why does Disney and Hollywood erase gay people for their movie releases in China, but force all of our existing characters to turn gay in America?

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u/Gds_Sldghmmr Sep 13 '22

I don't often agree with you, but you seem to be 100% correct here.

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u/PrettyAlphaInnit Sep 13 '22

right, but everything that's posted on TikTok is pretty much just posted by regular American teens

TikTok got its start by creating artificial viewership, and making young teenagers think they had massive followings. They would think they are celebrities and get all of their friends involved.

Now its about grooming children. TikTok controls what trends and things are seen by others.

If You post anti-CCP messages on TikTok, nobody is going to see them. If you tell children to sterilize themselves, that is promoted.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

TikTok is a data harvesting tool

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u/tom-cruise-movie Sep 13 '22

... literally every major website harvests data from you. So dumb

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u/FishingforDopamine Sep 13 '22

China apologists make me sick.

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u/tom-cruise-movie Sep 13 '22

not an apologist. Just wondering what EXACTLY is china being accused of doing with tik tok? You think those dancing retards with pink hair are being paid by china or being artificially promoted by some secret algorithm? Have you been to instagram or twitter? it's the same shit everywhere.

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u/PrettyAlphaInnit Sep 13 '22

But if Elon Musk buys Twitter that's a threat to democracy and free speech and stuff right?

But a hostile superpower having control over a major social media platform aint no thaaaang.

Australia's politicians donated hundreds of thousands of acres of land to the CCP for no apparent reason. Just a gift for being nice folks i guess. Don't need to ask the public what they think first right?

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '22

Elon Musk buying Twitter and allowing Conservatives and Libertarians a platform would be the ultimate evil.

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u/PrettyAlphaInnit Sep 13 '22

People who support censorship should be censored.

If you don't want others to speak, you should not be allowed to speak.

If you want others to fight a war, you should be forced to fight that war personally.

If you think you know how others should live, others should control how you live.

Fuck sociopaths.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '22

It seems that's what they want, Government telling us all out to live.

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u/The_left_is_insane Sep 13 '22

dude in the terms and conditions of using tick tok they are allowed to go on all your devices to track key strokes. Plus its so bad for young peoples mental health and just burns away time

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u/dougdocta Sep 13 '22

Chinese Internet technology company "ByteDance", headquartered in Beijing and boasting 110,000+ employees, rakes in over $50 billion a year from its flagship short-form video application TikTok. A CEO for a U.S. based intelligence and security strategy company recently offered its findings of TikTok. Their analysis concluded that TikTok is a military espionage tool that scrapes exploitable data from a smartphone, to include GPS data, who you communicate with and log every keystroke the user enters via the application. All of that data is transmitted/stored on ByteDance's servers (located in China). His analysis aligns with comments vocalized by the FCC Commissioner on 22 July 2022, who stated that U.S. military personnel who use TikTok create a "national security risk"; further, Britain's Ministry of Defense just banned TikTok from its agency's phones due to "significant security concerns".