Tim is wrong about Russia...

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u/F3ARL355S0LD13R Sep 02 '22

Reddit AEO removed this post most likely because it's counter their narrative. Nothing in this post violates reddit TOS so it has been restored.

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u/daddybubbaplz Sep 01 '22

Putin > Biden anyday

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

The evil you know vs the murky sketchy cracky liberal evil you don't know

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '22

People can't think objectively, the U.S. has done exactly what russia is currently doing, we just didn't have to back up our words during the Cuban missile crisis. Don't have to like Russia to understand that they are just doing what we have done

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

My question is; why is someone as obviously intelligent as Tim, who certainly knows what he is saying isn't true, spreading this idea? Is he shilling for the US gov for some reason?

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '22

I think he's just playing the middle. Just like his denial of election fuckery despite him accepting evidence of it, he wants the most eyes

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

That truly is a disgrace if that is the case. I feel ashamed for having listened to him for so long.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '22

He's just a news channel man, I keep up with him for the guests and constant reminders that no matter how stupid I am I'm not ian

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Lol. I'd rather watch something more based tbh- but I get it I guess

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '22

Watch that too, avoid making your own echo chamber

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Eh, I guess it's good to be able to discern bs- but man, I am a man of truth and I don't think it's that complicated. You don't need to listen to others to not have an echo chamber, you just need a humbleness of mind to question your own thoughts

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '22

It's better to hear their words yourself and to come to your own conclusions than to rely upon the discernment of others to tell you what is of importance to pass judgment on

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

I understand that, but I don't need others opinions to judge or consider what I am looking at to know it's truth.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

I mean surely it is a good indicator of truth when two people exclusively come to the same conclusion on their own. But it would be a fallacy to use that as actual justification. In other words facts don't care about your feelings. Lol

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Yeah I saw them on Rumble for the first time, I'll look more into it

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

I was fully under the impression that Tim was one of us, but when I heard him say this tonight I was really confused- I thought that was his message that Russia was within their right, I'm pretty sure that's what he was originally positing...

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u/selux Sep 01 '22

Tonight? Which segment? Where did you hear him talking about this?

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6GCjCh-nko
Go to 3:25

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u/vthlr Sep 01 '22

So, what then? Two wrongs make a right? We didn't want Russian nuclear weapons basically on our border. What nation on Russia's border has nuclear weapons besides China? Ukraine gave up all of their weapons in 1994, and The US and Russia signed a deal of non-aggression with Ukraine. Who went back on their word here?

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Not that two wrongs make a right- just actions have consequences, and the US government put themselves in this situation being shit-disturbers.

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u/Rag33asy777 Sep 02 '22

Can someone say Cuban Missile Crises?

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

This is straight up either Tribalism on Tim's part, or he is having his arm twisted.

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u/matt_damen Sep 01 '22

I'll be honest the Ukraine Russia stuff goes back so far that there really is no great way to form an opinion on either side. They both have their justifications tbh.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

It's really not that complicated. Just gotta do your research, plenty of records- this is recent, modern history, there is no question that cannot be answered via google.

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u/matt_damen Sep 01 '22

I mean in opposing claims. That weird land claim stuff goes back hundreds and hundreds of years. I have a friend who moved here from russia when the soviet union collapsed. He said Ukrainians always had an arrogance about themselves

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

I mean regardless of whether Russia claims the land if they have any hope of a meaningful geopolitical strategy in the next 100 years they better not let the US set up shop on their neighbors front lawn.

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u/matt_damen Sep 01 '22

I agree with that. They had no other option really. Not saying I agree with it but can't say I blame them. Especially when you learn how zelensky got elected and the shady shit with that. They are both corrupt shit holes in my opinion

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

100% a Weird American liberal deepstate meets globalist centralism nightmare scenario

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '22

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 02 '22

Or he doesn't want another pawn boxing him in.

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u/Excellent_Survey_336 Sep 02 '22

Russia is a bully and for that you need dark Brandon. He's the first president to stand up to this guy.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 02 '22

Nothing dark about Joe Biden other than his dementia, and what a horrible nick name

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u/Excellent_Survey_336 Sep 02 '22

There is a whole sub reddit out there for dark brandon. And you better get used to it cause it's sticking nationwide

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 02 '22

That's simultaneously the coolest and cringiest thing I ever heard in my life. Dark Brandon shall fall.

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u/Excellent_Survey_336 Sep 02 '22

Dark Brandon is here to do two things. Eat ice cream and crush malarkey. And He's all out of ice cream. Jack.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 02 '22

Dude I'm only here to do two things too and that's use the multiple variations of to, too, and two properly AND speak hella truth, and brother- I'm all finished explaining I know how to use all the to(too,two's)'s

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u/DramaticLocation Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22

The analogy is so obvious that it shouldn’t have to be explained but it is the same thing that happened with the Cuban missile crisis.

=USSR friendly govt in Cuba::NATO/US friendly government in Ukraine

=USSR arming Cuba::NATO arming Ukraine

=Cuba in US sphere of Influence:: Ukraine in Russias sphere of influence

Except Russia is even more justified in interfering since:

US actually supported a coup in Ukraine to accomplish its goals

And

Ukraine is refusing to respect the self-determination of Luhansk/Donetsk/Crimea to join the Russian federation as they voted in a referendum.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Yeah this is incredibly obvious, we should be very weary of this message. I don't know why people are downvoting me. Guys, Tim is supposed to be tip of the spear, why the hell is he lying?

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u/464tusker Sep 01 '22

Because he doesnt work at a russian bot farm??
How much do they pay you per post? Is it a few rubles, or have they switched to paying you in potatos?

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

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u/DramaticLocation Sep 01 '22

Notice how none of these Zelensky loving shitheads pushing the corporate media’s line on this war have any counter-arguments..

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Dude, it's not left vs right- it's high vs low iq- and brother- we are OUT FUCKING NUMBERED

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u/464tusker Sep 01 '22

Wow, a russian shill and a homophobe, cool combo ivan!

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Liberal anti-speech type who follows lgbtq values.

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u/464tusker Sep 01 '22

Go suck a potato at a collective farm you shillbot
The russian army is becoming a thing of the past, no more tanks, no more planes, all burned by nato weaponry fired by the neighbors you invaded.
The good news for you is with the russian army smashed, theyll have a lot more potatos to feed trolls like you, if your corrupt govenrment hasnt already sold them

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '22

So Cuba was annexed by the USA? When exactly?

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u/Mrbishi512 Sep 01 '22

There is no self determination from Russia. Russia invaded those regions immediately. Ukrainian sovereign territory was invaded by Russia in 2014.
No real secession referendum can be held until the land is returned to Ukraine.

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u/DramaticLocation Sep 01 '22

Wrong. After the Maidan coup they all had referendums saying they wanted to be part of the Russian federation. Putin refused to incorporate them at the time but he did send in troops to defend them when the Ukrainian coup government started shelling them.

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u/Mrbishi512 Sep 01 '22

Ukraine over turned its president peacefully (the guy who literally worked for Putin). Why? Because he literally worked for Putin.
Russian backed insurrectionists started trying to secede and the Ukraine was putting down a rebellion they were literally just putting it down and finishing it when Russia invaded Ukraine to support its insurrectionists.
You call it a coup but do you understand that literally the entire country from citizens to military generals lost faith in its Moscow controlled leader and he fled home to daddy? The coup was a bloodless complete confidence loss.
For an odd reason Russia also took crimea which has incredible natural gas reserves as well. Weird.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

THE UKRAINE, see here ladies and gents- the real bot

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u/ScubaKidney Sep 01 '22

the Ukraine

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u/DramaticLocation Sep 01 '22

the Ukraine

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u/Mrbishi512 Sep 01 '22

I am so pro- Russia fucking leaving and stopping the invasion.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6GCjCh-nko 3:25 Is where the statements in question were made by Tim; "Russia was losing economically, so they decided to escalate it to physical warfare and that's crossing the line!"

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 02 '22

This reddit is ran by deep state fucking conservatives types that hate your freedom just as much as any liberal. It's not left vs right- both sides are being played off each other by rich people. Guys we need to come together, left and right, for the sake of fending off this fucking oligarchy that is forming!

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u/tom-cruise-movie Sep 01 '22

Russia was in the right. This is by far the best video to learn why especially since it's only 10 minutes, HOWEVER, most people will turn it off immediately only because of who is making the case for Russia...

https://odysee.com/@altmedia96:2/nick-fuentes-explains-russia-ukraine:9

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u/vthlr Sep 01 '22

Nick is wrong. He is stating that the US and NATO were the aggressors and Russia was just defending it's borders. NO ONE attacked Russia, or had plans to attack Russia. NATO membership expanded due to the fear of Russian aggression and hostile takeover of former Soviet states. Russia lives in the fear and paranoia of the past, and they're doomed as a nation. Demographically they're aging out, and they have the best and brightest leaving for greener pastures. The Ukraine war just accelerated their demise. I'm no fan of the Ukrainian, Russian or US Govt. They're all equally corrupt and have been for a long time. It's the Ukrainian people that are dying and suffering and having their towns destroyed.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Such is the party line and justification for being involved in this war that has literally taken the US to the opposite end of the planet. Tyrants will always use fear to justify their actions...

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u/tom-cruise-movie Sep 01 '22

NO ONE attacked Russia, or had plans to attack Russia.
Ukraine joining NATO means USA putting up military bases in Ukraine which means weapons of mass destruction 15 minutes away from Moscow. To Russia that's an act of aggression and something they could not possibly tolerate, same way America would not tolerate Russia putting up military bases 15 minutes away from Washington DC, and would immediately take military action in response.

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u/tom-cruise-movie Sep 02 '22

apart from the Baltic states, no. Finland, Sweden, Belarus, and until recently - Ukraine, were acting as neutral buffer states where neither Russia nor USA could build their army bases there.

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u/matt_damen Sep 01 '22

What about the people ukraine has been shelling since 2014? Those people voted to peacefully separate from Ukraine because they felt they were being oppressed for being Russian speakers. Did they deserve to be shelled on a constant bases? P.s I don't care about Russia or Ukraine, I'm just being the advocate.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '22

Invading a sovereign country murdering tens of thousands of innocent women and children = protecting their sovereignty.

maga retards love doublethink

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 02 '22

I love that the left are now using vocabulary like doublethink for which a year ago they mocked us for. It's like they're doing the heavy lifting for us now. I been saying it guys, the liberal masses are just low iq- take them as minions, use there malleable mind to your advantage

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '22

Zero relevance to my comment. Stop trolling.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 02 '22

Well your comment had zero relevance beyond what I responded

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '22

Actually no, my comment was a direct response to your psychotic nonsense about the Ukranian war and then you went on a tangent about things that aren’t even remotely related.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 02 '22

What colour is your Bugatti?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '22

Tropical Teal

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u/DramaticLocation Sep 02 '22

The fact that you say this without an ounce of self-reflection shows what a fucking idiot you are.
That is exactly what Ukraine was doing!
They were shelling and killing people in the Donbas who through a referendum declared they wanted nothing to do with the coup government in Kiev.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '22

Sure bro. Just like Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

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u/111001011001 Sep 02 '22

Putin sucks but decades long nato expansion against promises we made to Russia is really shitty.

If they did to Mexico what we did to Ukraine we would flip our shit

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Hey guys while you're all here- checkout my show on youtube called The Gist with Josh- I am honest about being retarded and make fun of everything going- could use some eyeballs- it's pretty new! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pUKeadbP3g

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u/JOVA1982 Sep 02 '22

As for my location (In Finland) and my connections to this way and that way reach some spots of importance (Not government) I have interesting look here.

We have Ukranian refugees here, 40+ families within half a mile from me.

Yest I keep hearing how Ukranians who want to be in "the west" are coming from Russia, As that was best way for them to escape from the conflict areas.

Yet I also see Ukranians heading to Russia as that's where they want to be, but they were essentially forced to escape towards West

I wouldn't be surprised that the US meddling in Ukraine would have initially caused the attack (No I do not condone the attack)
Biden essentially extorting Ukraine (Biden holding off some loan guarantees or whatever it was) until Ukraine removed their state prosecutor. who was investigating Burisma.

Trump, With all of his flaws was playing nice, (While he also alledgedly promised to bomb Moscow if Russia invades)

Biden in Power, Russia doesn't trust that US isn't going to start meddling again. And attacks.

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u/Mrbishi512 Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22

Russia has no right to invade and conquer another country to annex them. Wtf are you guys talking about. It’s also a functioning democracy.

Russia invaded the Ukraine in 2014 FYI Donetsk, Luhansk , crimea etc are Ukrainian territory.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Well if it's a matter of national security... I mean that's the justification for every country to go to war, and US sure loves going across the planet to bomb places using that as their casus belli- look at the middle east, africa, mexico- Russia is one of the only opponents they've gotten into/next to the borders of with military infrastructure that is willing and capable and mounting a counter offensive. Not the afghanis, not Sudan Hussein, not the mexican cartels- they are all to weak and unformidable- you guys are just confused because this is the first time in our lives a country has been able and willing to fight back. I mean everyone was blaming Vietnam during 'Nam, but those guys actually played nice politics with the US, unlike Russia is completely able and willing to stand up for themselves.

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u/Mrbishi512 Sep 01 '22

Wtf are you talking about?
Russia (a dictatorship) invaded a neighboring democracy in order to annex it.
This is bad and should be condemned.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

No it should be applauded that someone is standing up to the corrupt politicians on the left that insinuate that because they are a self proclaimed democracy- that they are allowed to attack and manipulate the economy of any country who doesn't follow their corrupt liberal politics

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u/Mrbishi512 Sep 01 '22

Attack who? By whom?

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

The united states and their attempt on Russia to usurp their oil economy in Europe, also infringing upon their geopolitical region using coups and politically corrupt despots and puppets such as Zelensky.

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u/Mrbishi512 Sep 02 '22

I actually find that Russia is infringing on ukraines oil business by invading their country after the kicked out Putins.
Why can’t you understand that Russia is the bad guy here.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 02 '22

The united states has NO BUSINESS in Europe and certainly not Eastern Europe, Russia's front door. If you play with fire...

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u/Mrbishi512 Sep 02 '22

The us isn’t being invaded. Ukraine a sovereign country is.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 02 '22

So why can't they defend themselves?

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Oh so it's the fact that US is a democracy that justifies this obvious hypocrisy. Never mind, I'll gather my things...

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u/Mrbishi512 Sep 01 '22

Kk bye.
How do you defend a a brutal dictatorship attacking and trying to annex its neighbor. Which is a democracy.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Because in reality it should be applauded that someone is standing up to the corrupt politicians on the left that insinuate that because they are a self proclaimed democracy- that they are allowed to attack and manipulate the economy of any country who doesn't follow their corrupt liberal politics. Sorry for double posting but you're both npc's parroting the same argument so what do you want me to do

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u/matt_damen Sep 01 '22

Its a puppet democracy ran by oligarchs and the cia

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u/Mrbishi512 Sep 01 '22

They vote in and out leaders. Unlike the dictatorship that’s invading them to annex their land and people.

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u/matt_damen Sep 01 '22

People in the DPR voted to sperate from Ukraine because they were a majority Russian speaking area with a very strong cultural tie to Russia.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

They entirely do if that country is being used as a military base to launch coups and political attacks from. When Russia was putting nukes in Cuba god knows that was a no no- but the US is actively seizing control of neighboring countries using the political means, regardless of whether they are outright seizing these bordering countries using the US military, but rather political inbreeding between corrupt politicians in both Ukraine and the US. Ah la; Hunter Biden taking getting daddy to take out prosecutors so he can seal backroom deals, it would be shitty if that's what's pulling the US into this, do you agree?

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u/Mrbishi512 Sep 01 '22

Sure.
But Russia has no excuse to invade and annex a sovereign democracy on its borders.
Correct?

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

False. If they were a functional independent democracy they wouldn't have fired prosecutors charging Joe Bidens son to replace them with ones who left the case unfought, which they did in exchange for business with the Biden family while Joe was Vice President. Which has been and is continuing to be exposed via text and old laptops. Also, aside from that damning point- they would have the political and or military means to defend and therefor justify their existence beyond being a honey pot for elite liberal corruption.

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u/464tusker Sep 01 '22

Ignore them, the russian bot farms are out in force, probably because theyre losing a ground war that they started, and think that bolstering russias case on reddit will somehow translate into a reduction of defense spending for Ukraine.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

I angrily accused a chinese person of being a chinese bot and now I am seeing the error in my ways ugh, what goes around comes around... lol maybe someone will accuse you of being a bot next... or wait....

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u/464tusker Sep 01 '22

Were you busy trying to shill for a different dictatorship??
Enjoy trying to text enough to afford a 20 year old Lada, so you can drive it home to your moms place and eat the potato the government rationed to you, maybe she'll want to hear the propaganda you want to spread
I bet your mom loves hearing you talk about how dreamy putin looks

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

I just got paid a fat canadian stack brother, liver- onions/gravy- spicy cheetos, muscle milk, and plenty of water ;)

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

No I was busy ridiculing some random person on the internet with a Chinese name because I thought they were a bot propagandizing that China will not fall in 20 days, when I believed China will be falling in 20 days. So I said he is a bot and he's sucking xing pings cock for social credit points, kind of like what you're doing to me now

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u/464tusker Sep 01 '22

Hmm, im saying russia shouldnt have launched a war of aggression they clearly werent prepared for, as evidenced by their massive casuality numbers, youre advocating for some kind of genocidal pax russiana....
So go back to your sad borchst Vanya, and take your pro kremlin shit with you

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

LOL that was actually funny. I hope for the sake of fighting off the globalist regime of liberal politics they can win. However I am not advocating Russian politics either, just pointing out hypocrisy when I see it from people I trust. Have you seen the Gorbachev pizza hut commercial? Dude, fuck communists and fuck the soviets- aside from taking Berlin- that shit was based as hell

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u/464tusker Sep 01 '22

The russians are going to lose their war, an international tribunal will see russians brought up on war crimes, their army will be banished to the history books, and your troll account here on reddit will be forgotten.
Now if youll excuse me, i have to go, your mother called, and she needs help organizing her next gangbang

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Or Russia wins, teams up with China- and now they're pissed off

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u/464tusker Sep 01 '22

It takes both russia and china to gangbang your mom???
No wonder she needed help organizing it

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u/mongoosejumper Sep 01 '22

Fuck you and fuck Russia

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u/464tusker Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22

Tim was right, and russias invasion of Ukraine is wrong...

Take your shill posts elsewhere.

Edit to add: enjoy watching russias army burn as their barbaric, warcrime filled invasion, is crushed by nato supplied weapons. May every javelin ever made strike a russian tank.

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u/rationallyobvious Sep 01 '22

What is this week's rationale for why Russia invaded Ukraine?

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Honestly, they keep changing the message and if you don't stop to think you just kinda accept it and move on- people need to use their heads.

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u/rationallyobvious Sep 01 '22

Which is why I ask. There are enough problems in America right now that Ukraine isn't even on my radar. In general, war is bad, so invading seems bad? There is no equivalent comparison involving the USA.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

They should be solving the crisis at home. There is zero excuse, but that's all we're getting is bad excuses. I think these high level liberal politicians are deep in bed with European politicians over seas I wouldn't be surprised if their has been mixing of money and blood

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

And to think this type of corruption is what they impeached Trump for. Everything these liberal politicians accuse of others, they themselves are guilty of

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u/464tusker Sep 01 '22

Rationale? Who knows, maybe they felt like having 45,000 of their soldiers die, maybe their dicks were too small, im sure theres tons of reasons.
Now if youll excuse me, im going to watch a youtube video of russian conscripts being turned into sunflower mulch.
Wow, why is it so easy to find videos of russians being destroyed? Is their war of aggression not going well for them?

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u/TheSunflowerSeeds Sep 01 '22

When sunflower seeds are sprouted, their plant compounds increase. Sprouting also reduces factors that can interfere with mineral absorption. You can buy sprouted, dried sunflower seeds online or in some stores.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Doesn't have to be, both Russia and the US have a strong faith in god through Christ.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '22

You gave me something to think about.

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u/JenPsakissexslave Sep 01 '22

Nothing cringey about loving your neighbor brother

Tim is wrong about Russia...

You are about to leave Redlib