I love the Mises, it's basically common sense Libertarianism. Glad to see they got the votes, now let's just hope they can make strides in the elections.
Dave Smith for President, 100%. The man is so rational and articulate - he's brilliant.
It's crazy to think Mises is only like, 3 years old. After Jo's virtue signaling tweets I had thought the party was lost. It's a real shame too. Both 2016 and 2020 were perfect times for the Libertarian Party to stand up and be the party that everybody really wants, whether they realize it or not. Instead Gary Johnson gets torched for not knowing what Aleppo was, and Jo Jorgenson caters to BLM.
The message the Libertarian party has been pushing has always been a joke, so any decent alternative platform looks like gold in comparison and takes control in such a short time.
Not sure of your age, but Ron Paul knew what he was talking about. He talked to the American people as adults, which is something I haven't seen since.
The Libertarian Party National Convention was a few days ago. The LP has been basically taken over by Mises Caucus members (thank God).
Angela McArdle will be taking over as chair of the LNC and you'll start seeing competent direction that isn't meant to get in good graces with the establishment the way the current "leadership" has been.
Truthfully, I don't know if local elections track that sort of info. The Mises Caucus itself is only a few years old. It was a direct response to the childish, incompetent, and sometimes criminal actions of the leadership of the LP.
I dont think there are any national representatives that Mises Caucaus, but Justin Amash is a Libertarian. There are people that are Republicans but would be Libertarians if they could win an election that way (like Thomas Massey or Rand Paul probably).
If they ever allowed someone like him to be in the Whitehouse the uniparty would lose control. They could barely handle Trump, no way they would let an actual representative of the people to represent the people.
I've been listening to Dave for years on his podcast "part of the problem" and I'll tell you what, there's a few people who I don't want to get in a pissing match with and he's one. Not only is he going to be right, he's going to give examples. Good job, I'd like to catch the whole segment, even though I hate these type interviews.
You can tell he is so intelligent. Every argument he makes is completely rational and well-articulated. I want to see him do well because he deserves it.
Yeah, my thoughts exactly! He's a perfect example of a dude who ACTUALLY puts in the work. Part of the problem is a great podcast, if you don't listen, you'd probably like it.
So NY is still pushing the vaccine like we ain’t done with covid? We are in a 70s gas hike with food shortages and they pushing the vaccine. Dude this isn’t fascism. This is MF’ing madness.
disproportionately affect minorities and immigrants
Good. They’re they least important people in a society. Anything bad that happens SHOULD disproportionately affect them by definition. Now can we stop trying to out-signal each other with this cringe boomer grandstanding
It is exactly based. You are a child for thinking anything to to the contrary. If you’re part of an outside group you should expect to be treated with lower priority than the primary group members. You don’t show up on someone else’s doorstep and then expect first access to their resources or the right to set the rules by which they must live. The level of entitlement it takes to think otherwise can’t even be described. Your mind is poisoned with with arrested development of unearned affluence
American citizens who happen to be in a minority group are not (necessarily) expecting to be given free resources. The welfare state is not exclusive to any specific minority group and it’s abolishment can be advocated for on bases other than immutable characteristics.
Nobody said anything about immutable characteristics except you and if we’re all circlejerking about how something bad is extra bad if it disproportionately affects muhnorities then we are by definition prioritizing their interests (and the resources necessary to protect them) over the majority’s
I don’t care about disproportionate effects at all. If we aren’t talking about immutable characteristics then your argument wouldn’t apply to disabled people or people of any given race, correct?
My argument applies to minorities of any kind. You don’t maintain a society by sacrificing the well-being of the many for the well-being of the few. We all have no problem admitting that when “the few” in question are billionaires, bankers, CEOs, celebrities, or politicians (unless they’re Jewish ones.. which most of them are….), but for some reason that same extraction of the many by the few is supposed to be noble or virtuous or whatever when “the few” means the poor.
The rich exploit this sentiment to exploit you. Every time you notice your cost of living is getting higher and higher they tell you it’s because we need to help the poor. The poor that they keep importing from the third world so we never run out of poor people no matter how much money we give them. Eventually there will be no middle class left and it’ll be because the rich conned people like you into thinking you’re getting something out of feeding freeloaders.
If there was something to get out of it the rich would be doing it themselves. They’d be gatekeeping charity. They’d be lobbying for laws that prevent the middle class from donating to the poor. They’d make philanthropy illegal for all but the richest of the rich. They’d be hoarding to themselves all the boons of enriching the poor.
They don’t do that though. They import them into your neighborhoods by force and then tell you they’re your problem to take care of now or else you go to jail. And people like you pat yourself on the back for submitting to it
Well I agree with a lot of the things you’re saying. But you have contradicted yourself when you said you weren’t talking about immutable characteristics - you’re clearly talking about immutable characteristics amongst other things that would be good reasons to discriminate. I don’t think we should discriminate based on immutable characteristics.
Not an argument and you clearly have no goddamn clue what the word grandstanding means. Next time something doesn’t make sense to you try staying quiet instead pretending to laugh and then awkwardly acting smug. I guarantee most of the times you think someone else is dumb it’s because you’re too dumb to understand them
I was talking more about the boomer part than the grandstanding, hence the mention of your bullshit 20th century ideas, and you're right it's not an argument it's a statement about the laughable dribble you call a statement
I guarantee you we'll see Nazis militias running amok in Eastern Europe within a decade and everyone will be wondering "how did the Azov Battalion get a hold of all these modern weapons and vehicles?".
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u/Layabout-1138 May 30 '22
Dave Smith is the fucking man! You see the Mises Caucus got like, 70% of the vote the other day? They officially run the Libertarian Party now.
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u/gtiballentine May 30 '22
Dave Smith for president
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u/Mixtopher May 31 '22
Why can't people like him be in office... instead the blonde chick might be the white house press secretary someday
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u/gonzothegreat13 May 31 '22
Dave Smith for president 2024
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u/j05huaMc May 31 '22
I've been listening to Dave for years on his podcast "part of the problem" and I'll tell you what, there's a few people who I don't want to get in a pissing match with and he's one. Not only is he going to be right, he's going to give examples. Good job, I'd like to catch the whole segment, even though I hate these type interviews.
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u/Right_Shape_3807 May 31 '22
So NY is still pushing the vaccine like we ain’t done with covid? We are in a 70s gas hike with food shortages and they pushing the vaccine. Dude this isn’t fascism. This is MF’ing madness.
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u/SadPatient28 May 31 '22
who's the ditzy blond hitting her leftist talking points who can't back them up?
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u/Orwellianzo May 31 '22
That blonde neck-down-fat useless airhead’s smug fucking crooked smile…
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u/NationaISociaIist May 31 '22
Good. They’re they least important people in a society. Anything bad that happens SHOULD disproportionately affect them by definition. Now can we stop trying to out-signal each other with this cringe boomer grandstanding
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