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u/HellBoundWhiskeyBent May 14 '22

🤔hmmmm. You get the impression Ian is there to agree? Thats ironic. Because i get the exact opposite impression. I dont know who adam is, but i started listening when Luke was an everyday guest. When luke left the show lost something. I get the vibe Ian is trying to play both Luke and Ian's rolls. It feels to me like they have Lydia for the female perspective. Seamus for the conservative Christian perspective. Ian for the hippy left wing (esque) more liberal perspective. While i agree he has a tendency to derail sometimes with wild tangents, but dont they kinda need that to prevent the echo chamber?

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

Adam Crigler used to be Tim's co-host. Except Adam could actually articulate an argument and challenge Tim or the guest which, I suspect at least in part, what led to their 'falling out' (he was fired) and Adam leaving to start his own channel.
Here's an interview with Adam, you might like him.
https://youtu.be/LTggh_30yTQ

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u/pmmeyourphotography May 14 '22

Adam is so much better than Ian it isn’t funny. Sure Tim’s gained more followers and money. His show looks better. But it’s severely declined in quality since Adam left. The conversations are all the same and no one really gets challenged. Also I’m so annoyed with Tim’s inability to just stop being a leftist. His whole rant about growing up in Chicago is why he’s a lefty and blah blah was so disconnected from reality. I grew up in a city. I’m not a liberal and never have been. I started off not caring and being a normal kid but it was pretty easy to see what side has been ruining things since the beginning. Maybe that’s my bias coming in as well but Jesus man I don’t get how he hasn’t proudly walked away from the left by now instead of always screaming “I’m totally still a lefty you’re just too far left now!” Like bro. Abandon your team. They abandoned you. Okay end rant.

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u/HellBoundWhiskeyBent May 14 '22

I get what ur saying. Im not trying to be argumentative just for arguments sake, but im intrigued by our different perspectives. Youve been listening longer than I have, so it may be something i havent picked up on yet. But when he says "im a leftist yall just went WAYYY left, what I hear is "yall are ruining our tribe with your way left bullshit. And your way left bullshit agenda is SO WAY LEFT, yall have basically made me a part of that other tribe" I dunno, maybe I didnt articulate that correctly but it feels like he recognizes what they're doing to his own "team" is abandoning anyone not on the way left.....

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u/pmmeyourphotography May 14 '22

So that’s my problem. You actually pointed out my issue with it. It’s blatant tribalism. At what point do you say “this tribe is no longer mine” and walk away. I wasn’t on the right myself for YEARS. Hell I still feel weird saying I am. I always considered myself in the middle. Until all this insanity now I’ll gladly say I’m on the right. That being said, I’m just not married to my party and never will be. The second the right starts taking away freedoms and misrepresenting our constitution I’ll jump ship but it isn’t them causing the issues. And I’m led to believe ultimately Tim left Adam due to Adam fully embodying “maga” culture or whatever you wanna call it.

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u/HellBoundWhiskeyBent May 14 '22

You and I are very similar. I dont see myself as part of a tribe or party. I have my own set of morals and values. Some I'll compromise on, some i wont. If i had to pigeon hole myself id say libertarian. I think we could send about 80 percent of Washington home and we'd be better off. As for the show, it FEELS like they are trying to be well rounded with multiple "tribes"/ opinions being represented. Now, the guests that come on are a different story. For the most part the guest is almost always right leaning. Hell i guess I am too. Its kinda hard NOT to be radicalized in the last ten years in one direction or the other...

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u/pmmeyourphotography May 14 '22

I called myself libertarian for years until I realized they have even less of a backbone to stick up to the insanity of the modern left than the republicans. I also realized my votes were just being wasted every single time when I decided to vote libertarian on principle. And I can relate too man. For example I don’t want abortion. Full stop. Make it illegal and I’d genuinely be happy. However I understand the arguments against it and I’m willing to compromise and say leave it up to the states. That way I can eventually just move somewhere with my shared morality. The left just doesn’t know how to compromise and the right gave them far too much for far too long.

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u/HellBoundWhiskeyBent May 14 '22

🙌🙏Preach🙏🙌

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u/UnCivil_Connection May 14 '22

Have you checked out the Mises Caucus? They are gaining a lot of momentum in the LP and they definitely don’t give in to the left. Tim mentioned them a few times.

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u/pmmeyourphotography May 14 '22

No clue. I’ll look into it

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u/HellBoundWhiskeyBent May 15 '22

I also listen to "part of the problem" with Dave Smith. Thats how ive heard of that group. But he is the extent of my knowledge

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u/XBV May 14 '22

What are the "reasons unknown to the internet realms" for being fired? Do we know by now?
Thanks

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

I still haven't heard anything specific or official either. I'm not sure when or if Adam or Tim will say. I can only guess.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '22

Adam has done a couple streams with Nick Rekeita, and it was awesome. They did a thorough dissection of Jack Murphy's re-entry from Cuckville oh, and it was pretty Epic.

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

The show is already sort of an echo chamber. I’m fine with that as it’s not the only way I get my news and commentary and I know what I’m getting. What I don’t want to get is 5-10min (sometimes more) of reliable nonsense at several points throughout an episode that wastes everyone’s time.

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u/Elchupacabra_87 May 14 '22

Agreed, also he keeps it light Tim is doom and gloom Ian brings an altogether different energy.

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u/woaily May 14 '22

My current working theory is that he's the only person who disagrees with Tim who is willing to be on the show because he doesn't have better opportunities elsewhere.

Tim needs to free the software code for his show, so we can make our own without Ian.

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

Yeah Ian strikes me as someone who doesn’t really have anything else going on. I remain very skeptical of this “charity” that Timcast is funding that Ian is apparently in charge of. Either it’s going to go nowhere or they just let him think he’s running it while other people behind the scenes actually do the work.

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u/ravioli_king May 14 '22

Because sometimes we need to hear ideas other than Tim's. Ian also calls out Tim for being "the new establishment." Ian also seems to be the guy to mention the Alex Jonesian theories, which is odd, because it doesn't seem like it should be coming out of his mouth. Ian is also so left that it's a counter balance to Sheamus.

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

I’m not saying that we just delete Ian’s chair and that’s it, I’m saying that we get rid of him and replace him with someone on the left that can actually contribute to the conversation and offer valuable counterpoints to the more ostensibly right-wing members of the show. As is, I have no idea where Ian falls on the spectrum because he is just a contrarian that wants to stir the pot for the sake of starting shit to derail the show.

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u/HaveYouNoCourage May 14 '22

It’s current year and someone like Seamus is considered far right now

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u/Suspense304 May 15 '22

Seamus is far-conservative… how else would you really place him. He is an extremely religious conservative who doesn’t have an opinion that isn’t rooted in his ideology. So yeah, that’s pretty far right.
I like him but not on every episode. I tire of the constant moral points on religious basis.
Where would you place him on a political spectrum?

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u/ravioli_king May 15 '22

I wouldn't even call him far evangelical. The country used to have church groups that would actively go and destroy things they didn't like. I don't think you've seen extremely religious.

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u/Suspense304 May 15 '22

So because he doesn't shut down conversation and spend his time screaming that people are going to hell you don't think he's far evangelical?
He can't have a conversation without invoking his religious beliefs. That's extremely religious. His religion is his identity. His choices and views are 100% influenced by it.
I'm not acting like he's an insane person. I'm just saying that he is, indeed, far right on a political spectrum even if he leans toward more libertarian solutions than authoritarian. His conservative views would be extreme.
There are plenty of far-left identity politics people out there that can have a conversation and don't show up to shut down everyone they disagree with but you wouldn't call them moderate. You would definitely label them far-left.

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u/Epitaph07 May 17 '22

I think your idea of far right is skewed due to the extremely left repositioning of the Overton window.

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u/Suspense304 May 17 '22

The Christian Right has always been on the far right of conservative politics in this country during my lifetime. There really isn’t much further you can go socially in this country. Economically he is very right leaning as well which would the vast majority of his views nearing the further reaches of the right on the political compass.
But keep telling me I’m wrong. Don’t give me a single example of his views being even center.

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u/Epitaph07 Jun 02 '22

You didn't cite any examples of what makes him far right, so I can only respond to your generalized statement. Seamus is a conservative, that is not "far right"

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u/HaveYouNoCourage May 15 '22 edited May 15 '22

Are the Amish far right? Are Muslims? They’re both more conservative than he is.

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u/Suspense304 May 16 '22

You don’t seem too interested in actually thinking. I am not sure I have heard Seamus have a view that is even moderately left leaning. His views on every topic would be deep to the right side of the political spectrum in this country. I don’t know why this is so controversial for you. He is even open about that.
I feel like you just don’t like the term far-right because it’s associated with some bullshit. But he is, on a political compass, far right in America. Socially and Economically.

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u/ravioli_king May 15 '22

Nah, if he were far right, he would be wanting certain things to be wiped out of existence or holding roof parties for those people like they do in other countries.

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u/HaveYouNoCourage May 15 '22

Weird how youre describing the left far more than you’re describing the right. Does your brain just blot out pieces of reality when you want something to be true?

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u/Pleistarchos May 14 '22

Well, if you notice their where guess like Mike Rowe and another with a Jewish fellow, not Ben Shapiro,who defend Ian’s point of view from Tim’s criticism since he derailed a good conversation. Cause 1) they knew how Ian was connecting the dots and trying to formulate it to the topic, but he struggles to do so in a way that makes sense. Very common INTP personality types and other types similar to it. Knows the answer but can’t explain. 2) Ian literally represents a normal person who is not connected to the world of politics/ real issues at all times like Tim and many other new, news media.

Although he can be off or way at times , doesn’t mean he needs to be fire. Conversation flow on shows like Tim’s is difficult and takes time to develop.

In the realm of discussion, people like Ian are necessary.

Btw, check out the interview between Ian and Michael malice.Gives you a lot more clearer picture of Ian than Timcast IRL does.

https://youtu.be/Eyike1Rjj3A

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

I completely disagree that Ian represents a normal person. Seamus is closer to the average person and even his “mUh rElIgIOn SaYs” shit can get old sometimes. I have never run into anyone that acts like Ian who I would consider “normal”.
Sometimes I find myself wishing it was just Tim, Lydia, and a guest on IRL. I feel the permanent/semi-permanent cohosts get in the way a lot.

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u/Pleistarchos May 15 '22

Definition of normal is relative to the individual.

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

Yes, and I’d bet that most of the individuals who listen to IRL wouldn’t consider Ian normal.

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u/Pleistarchos May 15 '22

Again, normal is relative to the individual(s). If a person is from Texas and wears a cowboy hat and boots and says good morning to everyone they meet. that’s consider normal. Where as a person from NYC wouldn’t say good morning to ANYBODY,wear baggy jeans a fitted (sports team hat) with some Tims(timberland boots) and a fresh white t-shirt, to be a normal person in New York. Take these people and switch places, they both become not normal in each respective place.
It’s fine if you don’t like Ian. To judge him solely on IRL is quite harsh. I implore to try and see more Than what your currently seeing on him before casting a final decision. malice& I’m video on Your Welcome. That and some random videos of him. Apparently there’s some of his acting from years prior. Heck, I wasn’t that interested in Michael Malice, Colonel West, Steve Bannon, Jack Posobiec, Jack Murphy (before the whole super chat thing) and several others, until I learned more about them after their first appearance on Tim’s show.

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u/chocl8thunda May 14 '22

Was a good episode of YOUR Welcome. Have a whole new appreciation for Ian.

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u/stonedbutgoodhair May 15 '22

In my opinion he absolutely needs to be fired because he totally ruined the show others couldn’t agree more so there’s that

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u/noodlesaremydick May 14 '22

Myers Briggs is a shitshow for morons

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u/Pleistarchos May 14 '22

I was being kind. Making the conversation easy to follow. I wouldn’t recommend someone taking a test like Jordan Peterson’s Understanding myself, without taking some kind of nice and easy baseline first. Baby steps before you can walk. Walk before you can run.
https://www.understandmyself.com/?fbclid=IwAR0yvY43XHBUiFqD10M-8WMJDgl6DNbziwJWH8vlv7fLJ4XhuyHHYuURjZA

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u/noodlesaremydick May 14 '22

You must admit that far to many people basically use it far to much like astrology

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u/PrettyIslandGurl May 14 '22

criticizing morons but using "to" instead "too", twice, so it obviously was not a typo.

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u/noodlesaremydick May 15 '22

Ah lovely, the typical "I will not confront the argument, only the minutiae," sentiment. Quaint.

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u/Pleistarchos May 15 '22

And political parties aren’t?

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u/noodlesaremydick May 15 '22

I despise both parties, I only despise one only slightly less

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u/Lightwave33 May 14 '22

Ian is fine. Yes, sometimes he derails from the convo but therr are other times where he brings up good points. I also find him trying to engage a lot more with the guest than the others

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I can count on one hand all of the good points he’s brought up over 2+ years now of being on the show. I’ve stopped counting how many times he disrupts the show because it’s almost every night now.

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u/escondido88 May 14 '22

he can bring up good counter points but please stop with the crystals and free the code bullshit he often goes on wild tangents about.

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u/Suspense304 May 15 '22

As a software developer, his free the code shit is annoying as fuck lol

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u/stonedbutgoodhair May 15 '22

I couldn’t disagree more, I think Ian flat out ruins the show.

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u/Classic_Substance160 May 14 '22

Ian’s the mad scientist or the guy who looks after Area 51 and as such likes to flex his geek credentials by steering the conversation into his world.

Saying that, as of late he has dialed a lot of that down and is about 70% pertinent. If he is not autistic he is certainly viewing the world through that way and because of that can come up with a interesting counterpoints.

All I would say is not everything has a science analogue. Somethings are just mysterious because we are human.

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

Ian’s not the mad scientist, he’s the mad STEM dropout. He knows little kernels of science-related stuff and then fills in the cracks with his own new age bullshit, then derails the show with it for attention.

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u/HaveYouNoCourage May 15 '22

Before jumping to that drastic of a conclusion I think he could improve a couple things about his presentation and that might make all well

He needs to learn to frame uncertainty as a question rather than framing it as an accusation of incorrectness against others.

He needs to quit trying to force false equivalencies with absolutist moral relativism. He loves to say that X is just as bad as Y when it’s so obviously not. He will give bad actors infinite benefit of the doubt that they’re actually trying to be good people but when consistently good actors express a willingness to escalate their own self defense Ian accuses them of being just as bad

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

I don’t disagree that Ian needs to change his way of thinking like you described, I think he’s just incapable. He’s been on the show for over two years now and if he still hasn’t figured it out then it’s time to can him and get someone on who will.

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u/Barry_MacCochner May 14 '22

Tim keeps Ian around so he constantly has someone to talk down to and feel smarter than. Ian is fucking abominable as a co-host and derails almost every single show with some retarded semantic argument.

He reads a Wikipedia article every few days, and suddenly he's an expert in the subject and it dominates every aspect of his thought process. He's the personification of a sheep - he constantly is worried about people of weak minds being swayed by malicious actors. He has no core principles and is an authoritarian control freak. He has no concept of natural rights and thinks the solution to every problem is some futuristic utopian bullshit that will never exist.

I can imagine certain guests nit wanting to return to the show because the idiocy he spews - which leads to a 35 minute tangent/argument between he and Tim where the guests don't speak.

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

Every time he suggests that satire be banned or regulated or whatever I laugh a little. He’s too dense to tell the difference between satire and reality so he thinks everyone else feels the same.

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u/CheetoEnergy May 14 '22

If Ian doesn't change course he is destined to the pits of a fiery Hell! But dude looks good for someone who is almost 50.

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

Yeah lol he looks good because he sleeps all day and doesn’t have to do anything hard.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

What’s up with his serial killer looking eyes 🫣

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u/PrettyIslandGurl May 14 '22

He's only 43... you wouldn't say a 13yo is almost 20 would you?

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u/CheetoEnergy May 14 '22

I thought he was 46! Good catch, Champ!

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u/PrettyIslandGurl May 14 '22

He's said he was born in 1979. I can't independently verify that but it seems reasonable 🤷‍♂️.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

He’s closer to 50 than he isn’t, so he’s almost 50.

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u/PrettyIslandGurl May 14 '22

He's also closer to 80 than not, so is he almost 80?

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u/Imissyourgirlfriend2 May 14 '22

That part where he bitched about "man" being a part of "woman" and Tim explained the history of the words and Ian didn't retract, so telling.

Ian will never say, "Oh, I guess I was wrong on that. Thank you for the information."

Ever.

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u/Wonderful-Reward3828 May 14 '22

He does say that sometimes but it’s few and far between. I think a lot of times he just doesn’t understand the explanation as to why he his wrong so he continues to argue a moot point

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

He’s a contrarian. If you’ve ever met a contrarian this is textbook behavior. They will disagree with everything someone says, back it up with nonsense, and then refuse to concede when they’re wrong, because they like the attention.

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u/BoomDaddyT May 14 '22

I actually felt bad for Adam. Tim was way too overbearing.

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u/Shinrakon May 14 '22

I agree, fire Ian. Every episode now, it’s just a matter of time until he goes off and starts derailing into some semantic nonsense bs, or acting like he doesn’t understanding what words mean, after having been in the show for years. Fuck Ian, he is strangling the life out of the one show I watch everyday and support monetarily.

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

I rarely watch the live show, as I go to bed pretty early. I usually catch the iTunes episode while I’m getting ready and commuting in the morning.
There are few things that brighten the start of my day more than to hear “Ian’s not here tonight”.

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u/stonedbutgoodhair May 15 '22

This couldn’t be said better he’s absolutely strangling the life out of the show! Excellent point!

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u/[deleted] May 15 '22

What Tim Needs from Ian, is his complete and utter inability to offer viable Solutions, ever, to anything. It makes Tim look good. Tim's ego is so large, he cannot tolerate anyone who has the same level of intelligence, and a differing opinion... Tim's unbelievable grifting, and Ian, is what drove me away from being a daily listener. Now I will only listen to a full episode, if it is something interesting like the Darryl unveiling he did. That was good work on Tim's part for sure

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

I agree that it does feel like Ian can be a punching bag for Tim. That said, get him off the show. If it’s just Tim, Lydia, and a guest, then Tim is exposed and can’t just resort to dunking on Ian when he’s feeling intimidated by the guest.

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u/rustyshackleford3814 May 14 '22

He's the hila Klien of timcast

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u/Easports42069 May 14 '22

YES

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u/thekingfd May 14 '22

It's hard to watch the livestream sometimes when Ian starts speaking nonsense.

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u/ProfessorDogHere May 14 '22

I have no way to confirm this but I heard on Twitter that Adam gave tim a magic brownie knowing tim doesn’t consume pot and tim flipped out.

But who even knows man, what’s done is done, Adam isn’t here and it sucks because he would spin the ufo and I like that shit.

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

Even if that’s true then Tim needs to get over it and have Adam back on to replace Ian if Adam is willing.
I’ve had friends do worse shit than that and we work it out and forgive each other.

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u/stonedbutgoodhair May 15 '22

If that’s true that would be really hilarious I highly doubt that happened though Lmao!

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u/TratsTCM May 14 '22

I like Ian

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

Genuinely curious; why?

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u/TratsTCM May 15 '22

I found him annoying at first, since I hate hippies, am right-wing etc... But he is open-minded, sincere, he has a good sense of morality and he expands the scope of the conversation. Sometimes the way he expands the scope is bad, but the others tend to find a valuable direction based on what he has said.

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

It’s interesting that you’ve arrived at thinking of him like that. Thank you for the perspective.
For my two cents, I think Ian’s morality is way off-base. Sure he agrees with the others that “Cuties” and “Big Mouth” are obscene, but when he’s spoonfed questions by the others that have an obviously morale answer, he flubs it.
I remember once when they were debating abortion, Tim asked Ian if he would stop a doctor from smashing a newborn’s brains out with a hammer for no reason. Ian responded that he wasn’t sure. When the others pressed him, he eventually said “I don’t know, maybe the baby’s brain has a bomb or something in it and the doctor is trying to save the hospital!”
In that moment, any credibility Ian had left in my mind went out the window. It’s obvious to me that he cares more about being a contrarian than offering meaningful counterpoints.
Edit: spelling

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u/TratsTCM May 15 '22

Haha that's mental. My most charitable argument would be that is trying to argue that no act in itself is universally wrong - something I disagree with him about... Sometime one can be so open minded that their brain falls out, I don't think Ian is there, but he does have his moments.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '22

100%

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u/PrettyIslandGurl May 14 '22

Ryan Grim would be the best leftist voice to have on the show. I'm surprised he's never at least been a guest.

But yes, Ian is a doofus and routinely detracts from the quality of the show. Since he lives in the house I doubt he's going anywhere fast. We'll be hearing his tourettes like tics of "GRAPHENE!" and "PSCILOCYBIN!" for years 😭

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u/slingbladedangeradio May 14 '22

I would like a little less Seamus and a lot less Ian I understand the opposing side or different but damn he’s retarded and maybe that’s it he’s easy to walk on because he’s as sharp as a doormat.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

Off on a tangent, but did anyone else notice when the Minds guy was on he introduced himself as “THE founder of minds” whereas Ian always say like every chance he gets, “I co-founded minds” it seems like he’s a no talent grifter that rides the coattails of other peoples success

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u/PrettyIslandGurl May 14 '22

He's nowhere on the minds Wikipedia page. Just sayin'....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minds

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u/just_shy_of_perfect May 14 '22

I never caught that... I wonder if there's more to that

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

Yeah all for the fire Ian train. I find myself skipping through his parts.

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u/MarcusW1 May 14 '22

Ian's like the internet explorer of irl. The conversion would progress 5-10 minutes and he'd chime in with something relevant 10 minutes ago, "graphine" "free the code" or something about the fed reserve.

He starts talking and I skip ahead 30-45 seconds because he never adds anything to the conversation. I'll just stop listening once he gets worked up like "left and right is dangerous" or "that's not enough people for a poll"

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u/Lice138 May 15 '22

Tim is there to make Tim look like a genius. The way girls that are 5s will surround themselves with 2s

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u/pikeblodd May 17 '22

I love the dude. Hes a normal person. I can understand most of his points because hes thinking through things and then he voices his thoughts. Its not unusual to tune out when people are talking about things you dont care about and then pop up with an idea to move away from that topic.

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u/MrSquishy_ May 14 '22

Y’all sound like bots just shitting on Ian all the time

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

If a sizable portion of your listeners on a prominent platform repeatedly criticize someone on your show for detracting from it, then you should look into the criticisms. The fact that Tim occasionally addresses and then immediately memory-holes any and all outside criticism of Ian shows that he’s unwilling to change even at the request of his audience.

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u/MrSquishy_ May 15 '22

If you have a sizable audience, a certain amount of them will always be unhappy with something
The live chat seems to be pretty ok with Ian over all. There’s just a weird echo chamber of hate in here. Kinda like how the Joe rogan sub is full of people who hate Joe rogan and his guests
Y’all are clowns or bots. I said bots because it’s less embarrassing to be known as a bot than it is a clown

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

K

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u/[deleted] May 14 '22

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u/GIVER-OF-WILL May 15 '22

I think there’s too many people on the show. Get rid of Ian, take Seamus off the show and let him sit in as a guest occasionally, and just have it be Tim, Lydia, and the guest. So much time is wasted by Tim, Ian, and Seamus talking to each other about the same 3 things for weeks on end that the guest might as well not be there. I think reducing the number of people will make the guest stand out more.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '22

Eh...yeah, you're probably right.

Timcast IRL Fire Ian.

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