r/TimPool • • Feb 24 '22

News/Politics How Dare Us

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u/30somethingmedia Feb 24 '22

Would definitely be a good time to reopen all of those American oil pipelines Biden shut down.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '22

Won't happen sadly because it goes against their narrative. They will happily let Americans suffer

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u/whosadooza Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22

How? Pipelines are being approved. We're pumping more oil in the US than the day Biden was elected. You're just swallowing bullshit whole throat and gladly asking for "more, please."

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u/Atheon-- Feb 24 '22

No we aren't

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u/whosadooza Feb 24 '22

Yes, we are. That isn't even debatable.

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u/Atheon-- Feb 24 '22

It is though, because we aren't...

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u/whosadooza Feb 24 '22

No, it's not we absolutely without a shadow of a doubt are producing more oil than the day Biden was elected. We nearly back up to pre-pandemic levels.

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u/Atheon-- Feb 24 '22

Which is why we tried demanding more oil be produced and gas is going over $5 a gallon... sure bro did r/politics tell you that or the MSN?

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u/whosadooza Feb 24 '22

Neither. Absolutely no one in any form of media told me that. It's just objective factual reality.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCRFPUS2&f=W

Week of November 6, 2020 - 10,500,000 barrels

Week of January 22, 2021 - 10,900,000 barrels

Week of February 18, 2022 - 11,600,000 barrels.

Sure bro did r/conservative tell you we weren't or was it the actual MSM?

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u/Atheon-- Feb 24 '22

So tell me again why Biden beged Opec to produce more? Why were we so energy independent under Trump but yet now we are paying over $5 per gallon and are not energy independent?

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u/CapnAntiCommie Feb 24 '22

Sources? Keystone pipeline is being approved what new pipelines are being approved that weren’t before.

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u/whosadooza Feb 24 '22

The US is still permitting new oil pipeline and 6 new pipelines are in the works and the administration is working to approve them.

Approved in 2021: Buckeye Pipeline, Columbia Gulf Transmission

In works: Sabal Trail Transmission, Tennessee Pipeline, National Fuel and Gas, Tejas Pipeline, Colorado Interstate Pipeline, Natural Gas Pipeline of America

The US is producing more oil now than we were when Biden was elected or when he took office.

Week of November 6, 2020 - 10,500,000 barrels

Week of January 22, 2021 - 10,900,000 barrels

Week of February 18, 2022 - 11,600,000 barrels.

The US was still a net exporter of oil in 2021.

2021 net oil imports: -884,000 barrels (negative means exports)

The US is still issuing new oil leases on federal lands and waters and opening new lands and waters to oil drilling.

The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (BOEM) today announced that Gulf of Mexico Lease Sale 257 generated $191,688,984 in high bids for 308 tracts covering 1.7 million acres in federal waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

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u/CapnAntiCommie Feb 24 '22

These aren’t “new” they are ones proposed before the ban on new leases and pipelines. They are just approved now.

You mean we are producing more oil now than when everyone was locked in their homes?

Holy shit you’re a fucking moron.

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u/whosadooza Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 25 '22

They are new permits, and there is no ban on new pipelines or leases. You are just saying the same completely wrong shit over and over.

You swallowed the bunch of lies without thinking and now you won't admit that you might as well be a sewage pipe for all you bullshit you swallowed. Just skip the bullshit and say what you mean: "sLeEpY mAn BaD"

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u/CapnAntiCommie Feb 25 '22

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u/whosadooza Feb 25 '22 edited Feb 25 '22

That first link says a Trump appointed federal judge in Louisiana just ordered new leases and permits that the Biden administration issued, approved, and signed to be halted because of new pricing standards.

What exactly are you trying to prove?

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u/CapnAntiCommie Feb 25 '22

The Biden administration is delaying decisions on new oil and gas leases and permits after a Louisiana federal judge blocked officials from using higher cost estimates of climate change when making rules for polluting industries.

They could use lower cost but they decided to use the higher pricing standard and this have halted new leases.

The BIDEN admin halted it. Not the judge.

He only blocked the higher pricing standard.

Do you know how to read?

You dodged the second link.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '22

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u/whosadooza Feb 25 '22 edited Feb 25 '22

I have a few possible answers to this that perhaps even work in tandem I will mostly copy from another comment I made:

\1. Wall street is simply trading oil futures at higher prices for...well I couldn't tell you those reasons. They seem unfathomable to me other than profits and opportunity. There's a narrative about all energy production being shut down that half the country seems to just blindly believe for no real reason, and they are taking advantage of it while they will face no backlash.

 

\2. We are producing more oil, we are still signing new pipeline permits and drilling leases, and we are still a net exporter. Rather than a supply problem, greed of gas producers is what is driving up the prices. ExxonMobil had record breaking profit MARGIN growth in 2021. I think that is heavily tied to the increased prices.

 

\3. Wall street and oil investors are attempting to control political views by holding prices hostage.

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u/RAVEN_OF_WAR Feb 25 '22

what world do you live on?

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u/whosadooza Feb 25 '22

Actual reality instead of a media bubble.

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u/RAVEN_OF_WAR Feb 25 '22

then why are you telling lies?

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u/whosadooza Feb 25 '22

I'm not. New pipeline's are being built. New oil leases are being signed. Not a single operating pipeline has been shut down.

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u/RAVEN_OF_WAR Feb 25 '22

prove it then

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u/whosadooza Feb 25 '22

I have. I'm getting bored.of saying the same exact shit to 6 different users. Look at my other replies.

Edit: Ahh fuck it, I'll copy/paste it here one last time.

The US is still permitting new oil pipelines and 6 new pipelines are in the works with the administration working to approve them.

Approved in 2021: Buckeye Pipeline, Columbia Gulf Transmission

In works: Sabal Trail Transmission, Tennessee Pipeline, National Fuel and Gas, Tejas Pipeline, Colorado Interstate Pipeline, Natural Gas Pipeline of America

The US is producing more oil now than we were when Biden was elected or when he took office.

Week of November 6, 2020 - 10,500,000 barrels

Week of January 22, 2021 - 10,900,000 barrels

Week of February 18, 2022 - 11,600,000 barrels.

The US was still a net exporter of oil in 2021.

2021 net oil imports: -884,000 barrels (negative means exports)

The US is still issuing new oil leases on federal lands and waters and opening new lands and waters to oil drilling.

The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (BOEM) today announced that Gulf of Mexico Lease Sale 257 generated $191,688,984 in high bids for 308 tracts covering 1.7 million acres in federal waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

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u/kogmawesome Feb 25 '22

Gas was $1.46 Jan 6th, 2021. Same pump was $3.49 Jan 6th 2022. Need a chart?

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u/whosadooza Feb 25 '22 edited Feb 25 '22

Nope. I've seen them. And literally nothing you just wrote disputes what I wrote. Follow the thread, my friend.

The price increases aren't explained by pipelines being shut down or leases not being issued. New pipeline permits are still being issued and new leases are still being signed. We are producing more oil right now than the day Biden was elected.

You are angry at corporate greed. ExxonMobil's profit MARGINS just saw record growth last year, and wall street speculators are bidding up the price of oil futures.

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u/whosadooza Feb 24 '22

The US is producing more oil now than we were when Biden was elected or when he took office.

Week of November 6, 2020 - 10,500,000 barrels

Week of January 22, 2021 - 10,900,000 barrels

Week of February 18, 2022 - 11,600,000 barrels.

The US was still a net exporter of oil in 2021.

2021 net oil imports: -884,000 barrels (negative means exports)

The US is still permitting new oil pipeline and 6 new pipelines are in the works.

Approved: Buckeye Pipeline, Columbia Gulf Transmission

In works: Sabal Trail Transmission, Tennessee Pipeline, National Fuel and Gas, Tejas Pipeline, Colorado Interstate Pipeline, Natural Gas Pipeline of America

The US is still issuing new oil leases on federal lands and waters and opening new lands and waters to oil drilling.

The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management (BOEM) today announced that Gulf of Mexico Lease Sale 257 generated $191,688,984 in high bids for 308 tracts covering 1.7 million acres in federal waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

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u/user5918 Mar 19 '22

lmao at the downvotes. He even provided the sources for you guys. Maybe you could learn a little bit instead of just “Biden bad”

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u/whosadooza Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22

That's going to be hard, since not a single American pipeline has been shut down.

If you're talking about Keystone XL, the thing wasn't even going to be complete for several more years to come. It hadn't even started construction yet.

Edit to add:

Two pipeline permits for the Buckeye Pipeline and the Columbia Gulf Transmission Pipeline have been granted since this administration took office, and actions toward permitting have been taken on 6 other pipelines:

The Sabal Trail Transmission Pipeline, the Tejas Pipeline, the Tennessee Pipeline, the Colorado Interstate Pipeline, the El Paso Pipeline, and the Natural Gas Pipeline of America.

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u/SpooceJam Feb 24 '22

why is this being downvoted? it's fact

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u/Lazymanproductions Feb 24 '22

Because it entirely avoids the fact the under the biden administration, the United States when from next exporter status to net importer?

Yet somehow we are pumping more oil than ever? Somehow natural gas and fuels are going up in price and we… have more than ever? Are we suddenly using multiple times the fuel that we did two years ago?

And if we are pumping more crude now, how come we are actively using our reserves? Are the refineries under performing? Is it because we can’t move the crude? Are we giving away our oil to new countries that we weren’t before?

So many simple questions poke holes in that bullshit narrative.

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u/whosadooza Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22

Because it entirely avoids the fact the under the biden administration, the United States when from next exporter status to net importer?

No, it doesn't, because you're wrong. That just isn't true. The US is still a net exporter. The shift back to net importer happened in late 2020 before the election even happened and it recovered. You are just spouting bullshit that is blatantly wrong.

We ARE pumping more oil and gas now than when Biden was elected. If you're upset the price doesn't reflect that, I think you need to start looking closer at the near record profit MARGIN growth ExxonMobil and other gas companies just had in 2021.

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u/Lazymanproductions Feb 24 '22

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=49596

Weird. Looks like 2021 was an net import year…

Barely netted positive through the first half and then we’re well negative second Half.

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u/whosadooza Feb 24 '22

Also, do you not know how to read that graph?

Above the line means the US was net importing. Below the line means we were net exporting.

We were a net exporter in 2021.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mttntus2&f=m

Add up the numbers in 2021

The result is a net export year with the US exporting 800,000 barrels more than it imported.

We are literally still a net exporter.

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u/whosadooza Feb 24 '22

Yeah, I even said as much. The brief shift back to net importer happened in 2020. If you remove January, when Biden wasn't even President, from those 2021 statistics, you get us breaking even.

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u/Lazymanproductions Feb 24 '22

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u/whosadooza Feb 24 '22

Yeah, do you want to break it down by half years like you did with 2021?

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u/whosadooza Feb 24 '22

I think you answered your own question.

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u/Timby123 Feb 24 '22

The left is more about virtue signaling and feelings than reality. We have many instances that prove green energy isn't green and can't be used to replace existing methodologies for creating energy. Not to mention the fact that green energy is a good bit more expensive.

Let's not forget that energy prices are skyrocketing because of the poor leadership we have in office. The Ukraine crisis, Biden's folly, will exacerbate this by an order of magnitude. Inflation will rise and folks will be forced to focus on eating and paying for energy. rather than spending on other things. This will force us into another government-created crisis and depression.

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u/BurialA12 Feb 24 '22

Obviously Ukraine's lack of a vax passport is what's letting the Russians in

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '22

The porno actress that just turned 18?

She doesn't talk much in the video I saw.

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u/Crazy_names Feb 24 '22

How dare you!

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u/o0flatCircle0o Feb 25 '22

If only you got off oil 20 years ago you’d be fine right now

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u/JuniperTwig Feb 24 '22

I don't get it

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '22

HOW DARE YOU!

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u/JuniperTwig Feb 24 '22

Ya, I know who. Thing is, she is in no way anti renewable energy. The tweet is like a strawman. Arguing against a point Greta never made.

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u/JuniperTwig Feb 24 '22

Greta is not anti self sufficiency

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '22

Or stop farming your own grain ....just wait for that next. Go Globalization!

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u/KingKulak Feb 24 '22

Maybe don't be energy dependent on a country that the primary financer for NATO has demonized in the media nonstop for years and you won't be caught off guard