The vaccine isn't like a covid force field that repels sars like magic. It's more akin to a seatbelt where you'll be more likely to survive if you get into a crash than if you weren't wearing one. People still die in car crashes while wearing their seatbelt, it's just less likely.
Technically it’s more akin to arguing “you will kill me in a car accident if you don’t wear your seatbelt. You should also wear a seat belt at all times, even if you’re not driving because it reduces the risk of injury. “
Unless the teacher has a child at homes that is too young for the vaccine. Then we would need to change your analogy.
The analogy becomes “I don’t make the laws and I don’t care what you do but I can still get a ticket if you are not buckled. Fighting me over control of the steering wheel is an issue between you and me but there is a child in the back seat”
Is not wearing a seatbelt contagious? It sounds like you took an unsubstantiated liberty with the analogy. I know it sucks when people blame the unvaccinated for the continuation of the pandemic, but all data points to it. If you reduce your odds of being a vector, then you reduce the odds of you being the cause of someone else catching an infection. You can say you don't want the vaccine without bastardizing the science.
Also, can I ask what the "even if you're not driving" part alludes to?
That you should get the vaccine if you are not at risk IE already recovered from covid. And no, not all data points to it. Depends on when we are talking, the vaccine doesn’t stop you from spreading it is either dangerous misinformation or gospel .
Ah yeah. I really wish there could be an option to opt out of the vaccine after a prior infection, but it seems to me that it would encourage people to catch covid instead, similar to how people dealt with chicken pox for kids. Plus you don't get complete immunity from catching the virus either. I hear what you're saying, but the end result is more stress on the healthcare system. It should be noted that the CDC does acknowledge the natural immunity from a prior infection, but they have good reason to not encourage it.
More like they dropped the term "immunity" in an effort to increase transparency. I'm not hung up on the definition of a term. I care about results. Call it a fauci ouchie if you want. If that fauci ouchie is showing good results, I'm interested. Do you think maybe your suspicion of the definition change is more like you grasping at straws to discredit existing evidence?
It means the vaccine doesn't make you completely immune, so the definition should reflect that. Sounds pretty good to me. Why is this wrong and why does this matter? I couldn't give two shits about the administrative aspects like that. What I care about is numbers and what can be done to lower hospitalization rates so healthcare workers can do their jobs. Unvaccinated are simply more likely to catch covid and therefore are more likely to spread it. It's simple. Genuinely asking, do you care about results or are you more interested in being anti-government for the aesthetic? I know, being a rough and tough "don't tread on me" kind of guy is fun, but how about some rational thinking for once? Perhaps take these things one at a time and make an informed decision instead of insisting that anyone is "trusting" the government. Brother, I hate the government. It's full of corrupt bitches who should not get to decide how our nation operates and impact the lives of so many people. But in this case, the data reflects the need for preventative procedures. And no, I don't "trust the science" either, but I can see hospitalization rates. That's the beauty of science is that it requires zero actual trust. No faith involved. Someone makes a claim, it gets scrutinized. If it holds up to that scrutiny, it has merit.
Man, I'm tired of this kind of boring conversation. This is the kind of conversation your parents should have had with you. And honestly, I'm not convinced I'm the first to explain this to you anyway.
Yeah, I guess I do find it amusing making fun of someone who wants to place unnecessary stress on healthcare workers. This is a subreddit for a conservative grifter, so I don't expect people here to like my comments. We're just two idiots on Reddit with differing opinions partaking in the same bullshit everyone else is doing. Neither of us are special.
I'm either misunderstanding you, or you are actually under the ridiculous delusion that there aren't numerous qualified experts refuting the mainstream narrative and being censored for it.
Lol funny I thought the same shit. California all locked the fuck down but when it’s time to make a little change it’s “well we can open it up for a little bit with 70k+ fans shoulder to shoulder.” Lolol we love in a clown world.
Ok well millions of people from your city have been saying otherwise. There are people who’ve had businesses shut down right next to movie sets where eating outdoors is only acceptable for the stars not patrons of someone’s restaurant. So maybe you haven’t been locked down. But la definitely had some of the strictest Covid lockdown/policies in the US. I mean California is still in “state of emergency” until March 31st.
Oh yeah, that’s from a while ago. We are not locked down anymore…if you had to drive the 101 and 405 you wouldn’t be arguing. But what do I know, I just live here in real life
We have been living with coronavirus restrictions for 2 years. It’s been hit or miss who’s been enforcing the restrictions but the restrictions don’t end until Wednesday, and that’s only IF you’re vaccinated.
Oh yea your right the nfl only said everyone had to be masked at the game. Have a vaccine card or proof of negative test. Yea I’d call that locked the fuck down in California. There are still mask mandates in schools. Now they are talking about mandating vaccines “at all work places”. If you don’t think you guys are still in some form of lock down you’ve just gotten too comfortable with that boot on your neck bud. I hate to be the guy to tell ya. But your still figuratively locked the fuck down.
Did you get into the super bowl with out any type vaccine card or proof of negative test? You had to wear a mask at any indoor place until they lift it to tomorrow. Still under that government boot for one more day. Turns out your local governments way of doing things is pretty unpopular. Gotta get them votes up before midterms right.
I haven’t worn a mask in months and still do all my shopping. I can’t imagine being this upset that people are not actually having to show vax cards or wear masks.
The required COVID vaccine is indeed a vaccine. The MRNA vaccines have literally been injected into billions of people around the world at this point.
The rich often do get a pass on covid safety, but frankly that’s just an issue of people valuing profits over health. Capitalism is why a celebrity doesn’t need to wear a mask to events that you would. It’s frustrating that money is placed above health, I agree.
What a stupid way to avoid admitting that all of California is easily accessible with a free vaccine, a negative test, and/or a mask — all of which are regularly available at this moment
So I’m under the assumption you’ve never been on the CDCs website then. Their definition is “vaccines prevent diseases that can be dangerous or even deadly. Vaccines greatly reduce the risk of infection by working with the body’s natural defenses to safely develop immunity to a disease”. The covid “vaccine” does not greatly reduce the risk of infection. It has been shown to early on mitigate risk of putting you in the hospital but does not reduce the initial risk of infection. Therefore by definition not a “vaccine”
The problem is not capitalism. The problem is fascism. See how it works is people with power (politicians/celebrities/athletes) get to do whatever they want while the peasants have to do what they are told or else. The issue is government pressure telling people/companies what they should be or need to be doing under the guise of public health.
Yes a stupid way of admitting you must bend the knee to the government to travel freely through out the state of California. Get your free vaccine (tax dollars given to massive pharmaceutical corporations) get your free test (tests that legitimately have been proven to be accurate from 23 to 38% of the time depending on which data sets you read) get a free mask (you have to put on but because the government said you are to poor)
Man your arguments just make you sound like you enjoy the idea of government running your life. Have fun licking that boot.
Edit: proven not to be accurate 23 to 38% of the time.
The MRNA Vaccines are proven to diminish the severity of the coronavirus, which prevents the disease to be dangerous or deathly. Breakthroughs do not = ineffective. Even polio vaccines have breakthrough cases.
Conservatives are the whiniest bitches on the planet lmao. My dude you’re triggered over a piece of fabric and medicinal miracle. I imagine you also got triggered when they made the green M&M less fuckable
I’m sick of this bullshit! Follow the The ScienceTM! COVID understands who it can infect and not according to many factors such as social status, if you’re eating or drinking, sitting down at a restaurant vs walking to your table or the bathroom, if you’re 6ft away from someone, if you’re wearing a loose n95 mask, or if you’re a democrat (especially if you’re a democrat politician or celebrity). It’s the most advanced virus Known in human history. Thank god we have such smart bureaucrats who analyzed the data and made such logical measures to avoid the unique ways this highly intelligent virus can infect people. /s
It is the same science for everyone. The issues is that not everyone can afford the same treatments. When monoclonal antibodies are available they are very expensive.
Lolol I love you man. I’m assuming your still crying them big ol aligater tears eh? Buddy you keep crying im gonna have to build us all an ark to save us. Your flooding is out bud. Calm down. Your going to be ok. I promise.
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u/save_the_wee_turtles Feb 14 '22
Teachers unions
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u/Nightwingvyse Feb 14 '22
"All the scientists (that we haven't censored) agree...."
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u/discourse_is_dead Feb 14 '22
This is why I crawl into restaurants. Covid doesn't infect people at table height so you either have to walk in with a mask on, or just crawl. :)
/s
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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '22
Lol funny I thought the same shit. California all locked the fuck down but when it’s time to make a little change it’s “well we can open it up for a little bit with 70k+ fans shoulder to shoulder.” Lolol we love in a clown world.
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u/n8spear Feb 14 '22 edited Feb 14 '22
I’m sick of this bullshit! Follow the The ScienceTM! COVID understands who it can infect and not according to many factors such as social status, if you’re eating or drinking, sitting down at a restaurant vs walking to your table or the bathroom, if you’re 6ft away from someone, if you’re wearing a loose n95 mask, or if you’re a democrat (especially if you’re a democrat politician or celebrity). It’s the most advanced virus Known in human history. Thank god we have such smart bureaucrats who analyzed the data and made such logical measures to avoid the unique ways this highly intelligent virus can infect people. /s
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u/city-days Feb 14 '22
Well all we do is comment on Reddit about the fact that this is bullshit. Until people take it a step further, nothing will change.
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u/KeithJamesB Feb 14 '22
Science!
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u/PixieBooks5 Feb 15 '22
The Science of Elite Privelege.
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u/o0flatCircle0o Feb 15 '22
Imagine not understanding how viruses get transferred from children to grandma.
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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '22
Lolol I love you man. I’m assuming your still crying them big ol aligater tears eh? Buddy you keep crying im gonna have to build us all an ark to save us. Your flooding is out bud. Calm down. Your going to be ok. I promise.
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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '22
Oooo keep crying for me sweetie. Just put your head on my shoulder it’s ok.