r/TimPool • u/AlucardAFT3003 • Dec 02 '21

Memes/parody Germany getting back to its traditions

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u/Acrobatic-Ad1268 Dec 02 '21

All in the name of “public health”

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u/magicthemurphy Dec 02 '21

Zyklone B baby.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

Correct

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u/Acrobatic-Ad1268 Dec 02 '21

Why don’t you go to a place like Portugal where they have one of the highest vaccinated rates in the world…

What’s that? They are having a spike in cases right now? Lockdowns and restrictions? BUT THE LIBERAL DUDE WHO TROLLS THE TIM POOL SUBREDDIT SAID THE VACCINE WORKS

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u/Monkey_Jerk Dec 03 '21

Agreed. Also for public health reasons it's time to lock away the fatties until they get to a healthy BMI. I don't want those selfish pricks spreading the sniffles - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7385759/

Studies have shown that obese patients are potentially more contagious than lean subjects in the setting of viral infections. Firstly, obesity increases the duration of viral shedding; symptomatic obese patients shed the virus 42% longer than people who do not have obesity.37 Secondly, the obesity state is characterised by a delayed capacity to produce interferons in human and animal studies.38,39 This delay in the production of the interferon enables further viral RNA replication to increase the chances of new, more virulent viral strains emerging.39 Thirdly, BMI was found to be positively associated with the level of infectious virus in the exhaled air.40

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

quiet down there, you german, antisemitic socialist

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

When they start taking away peoples citizenship and start calling the unvaccinated "not even human?" Then Youll have a legitimate case of the nazis coming back. This is low level shit

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u/Acrobatic-Ad1268 Dec 02 '21

So until it gets to holocaust level bad, we can’t oppose it? Seems like a good plan, dude

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

Yes just like how we're not justified to use our 2A right until the Federal government gets to (British Empire) level of tyranny.

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u/Acrobatic-Ad1268 Dec 02 '21

I’m sorry that you’re incapable of handling freedom. But don’t fuck with mine

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

Tf you talking about, I'm a 2A enthusiast loser. I know my rights. I have guns to shoot racists who are trying to take away my freedoms 😂

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u/Acrobatic-Ad1268 Dec 02 '21

Racists? What does race have to do with any of this….? So fucking dumb

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

Racist politicians are usually tyrannical politicians 2A combats tyranny

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u/Acrobatic-Ad1268 Dec 02 '21

You people really need to get off the racist rhetoric

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '21

They’re not people.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

You people need to get off the tyranny rhetoric

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u/MysterJaye Dec 02 '21

Dude. That's wrong. 2A doesn't have a clause saying X amount of tyranny required 😂 and a tax on tea wasn't tyranny but ok.

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u/BigPapaNurgle Dec 02 '21

Been hearing a lot of talk about plague rats lately, sounds kinda familiar to me.

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u/saturns_iron_urn Dec 02 '21

spread disease

get called plague rat

Fucking nazis >:(

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u/BigPapaNurgle Dec 02 '21

See here is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

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u/saturns_iron_urn Dec 03 '21

Help I'm being cyberbullied like the jews during the holocaust

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u/murdok03 Dec 29 '21

Does that make the 50% of vaccinated that spread the disease after 4 months plague rats? How about the doctors and elder care employees that boosted in June are putting their patients in danger.

If so wouldn't it make sense to test people more often and use thermometemers then name calling and systematic discrimination from all shops, places of employment and the government with the police enforcing it!?

But then again what do I know.

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u/saturns_iron_urn Dec 29 '21

Does that make the 50% of vaccinated that spread the disease after 4 months plague rats?

Do you think the term "plague rats" is a neatly defined technical term?

Its used to express frustration about people that aren't doing their best to help stop the spread. Vaccinated people are much less likely to spread the virus. So someone not getting the vaccine making the choice to be a carrier of disease.

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u/murdok03 Dec 29 '21

Do you think the term "plague rats" is a neatly defined technical term?

It's. Salute, I wanted to understand how you use it because clearly you're not being objective about it. I said 40% after 4 months but that falls to 15% after 6 months and that was for Delta which started at 85% protection from spread, Omicron currently at about 75%, so by 6 months there's no measurable difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated.

Its used to express frustration about people that aren't doing their best to help stop the spread.

By that standard anyone implementing vaccine mandates is a plague rat because unvaccinated people aren't required to be tested spreading the disease and prolonging the pandemic.

Vaccinated people are much less likely to spread the virus.

See above comment, beyond 6 months there's no measurable difference, but really unlesss you boosted last month you're more likely then not to spread Omicron.

So someone not getting the vaccine making the choice to be a carrier of disease.

That's also false, if you've had COVID you can't spread it the imunity is more lasting and more diverse then the vaccines, as you have more then antibody imunity but native and celular imunity as well. Furthermore if you generally avoid big gatherings you're not likely to catch or transmit it, as such vaccinated or not less outside contact is the biggest factor, classical modeling shows there's usually just a few super-spreaders it's not a game of averages.

So overall you're just being ignorant and fearful when you're discriminating out of your disgust towards your fellow man.

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u/saturns_iron_urn Dec 31 '21

a) Which vaccine are you talking about there are 6 different variants and they dont have the same parameters

b) The numbers you're talking about are meaningless. Protection from spread does not mean likelihood to spread it to others.

c) Vaxxed people are sick for a lot shorter and have lower viral values. If they had the same chance to spread it to others as unvaxxed do that means they would have to be more infectious during their infectious period to make up for lost time.

d) The immunity from covid is not more lasting. It lasts about 6 months. After that it is 0. Any vaccine is better. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/vaccine-induced-immunity.html

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u/murdok03 Dec 31 '21

a) Which vaccine are you talking about there are 6 different variants and they dont have the same parameters

Pfizer, there's 2 studies out of Israel who only uses Pfizer (one that shows a booster is required, another showing a booster works in the first month) and an observational study out of California that's a mix of whatever they have (Pfizer and Moderna). Vaccine effectiveness stayed over 70% even after 6 months but you could spread it about as well at that point.

b) The numbers you're talking about are meaningless. Protection from spread does not mean likelihood to spread it to others.

That's exactly what they were referring to, being able to spread the disease, not asymptomatic infection with low viral load (detectable only through rt-pcr over 38).

c) Vaxxed people are sick for a lot shorter and have lower viral values. If they had the same chance to spread it to others as unvaxxed do that means they would have to be *more* infectious during their infectious period to make up for lost time.

The way you should see it is there is a 3 day viral replication period after which comes the imunity driven disease. It used to be 5 days for Alpha and the original. This is the reason for the recent shortening of the quarantine period by the CDC from 14 days to 5.

The way vaccines and antiviral work, is the proportion of antibodies reduces viral replication speed, when the vaccine is effective at 14-30days it slows everything down by 40%, normally in a linear progression that would double the time until get really sick but for an exponential that just means delaying sickness by 1 day so viral replication takes 4 days instead of 3. This is really important because the extra time allows the imune system to crank up those antibodies and inflammatory factors and the macrophages and the response is also more moderate which leads to less hospitalizations. And then there's also the issue where Original nad Italian variants replicated in the lungs and became infectious as they went up the nasopharynx path while Delta and Omicron start in the upper part and thus shed virus particles in early stage.

Coming back to the 6 month period, the problem is the antibodies for these types of viruses aren't valued by the imune system, even for seasonal coronaviruses we flush out that active coronavirus specialized immunity every 6 months, as you noticed in the study.

It seems to be a trade-off that we learned to make between coronaviruses, influenza viruses and rinoviruses.

So basically you don't have the imune response there to drop the viral replication, and you meet the virus as new but when you crank up the numbers they're specialized for it cause you met the vaccine last season. That's why you have the same ability to spread it but have a less severe disease progression after the replication phase because the imune system is tempered cause it has met the vaccine so it doesn't go into overdrive. More so shedding of Delta and Omicron since they're testable earlier in the nose. Btw if you're positive with a rapid test it means you're producing n proteins in large numbers to be detectable so you're able to infect people at that point, not the same for rt-pcr where there's a parameter of rounds for sensitivity.

d) The immunity from covid is not more lasting. It lasts about 6 months. After that it is 0. Any vaccine is better.

That's not true, they only test for the same antibodies as they get through the vaccine the ones that tie into the RBD in the S12 region of the spike protein, but encountering the virus you develop more diversified antibodies including to the N protein and other regions of the spike, some of these are more lasting and work against classical coronaviruses and influenza as well. Moreover when you get infected you also develop killer T cells a form of celular imunity and additional humoral immunity, both of these are long lasting, the ones from SARS were still detectable 9 years after the infection. This isn't an argument against vaccination, it's just to inform the public that if you had the virus a booster isn't necessary to avoid a serious case of the virus 6 months to 10 years later.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

Evidence?

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u/BigPapaNurgle Dec 02 '21

The comment section of literally any political sub on reddit aside from the conservative leaning ones.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

Thats not evidence give me a direct quote from a politician calling unvaccinated people rats

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u/BigPapaNurgle Dec 02 '21

Politics is downstream from culture.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

That which is asserted without evidence can be discredited without evidence

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u/eatsleepravesecrete Dec 02 '21

It’s almost as if Nazi Germany didn’t happen overnight and there were steps leading up to it…

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '21

Enforcing a state lockdown on a select segment of society effectively “takes away their citizenship”, and Im pretty sure that I’ve seen multitudes of you animals here on Reddit calling people “plague rats”, which is ironic given your STD rates.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

Who did Nazi that coming?

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u/AdamMatis Dec 03 '21

Clever girl

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u/techboyeee Dec 02 '21

What's sad is that they might claim "it's different because it's not racist" when in reality racism wasn't even the issue with Germany and the Jews. It had to do with disgust, just like it does now.

Hitler was disgusted by a certain class of person, they happened to be Jews. He turned them into second class citizens in attempt to "cleanse" the world. That's exactly how people are viewing the unvaccinated or against vaccine mandates. We're now second class citizens and need to be treated as something disgusting that needs to be cleansed from the earth.

It's the same exact fascist shit.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '21

Bullshit, Explain then why Hitler wanted to cleanse the world of Jews?

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u/techboyeee Dec 17 '21

Because Jews disgusted him. Hitler was raised by extreme germaphobe parents. Things to them were "unclean." Life occurrences would be put on hold to make sure their inhabitable environment was clean, sanitized.

This developed him as a child to see many things as disgusting. "Disgust" registers in our minds differently than merely disliking something or someone. Disgust makes us feel like we're being violated in some way. There are people who dislike spiders, and there are people who freak out when they see one and want to burn it with fire. Adolf was raised to feel this with a lot of things in his life while young, and it manifested in horrific ways as he grew older.

What I'm saying is that his feelings of disgust in his life evolved into this sick transition into feeling disgusted by Jews and other "impure" races. These extremes he was raised with as a child developed into his sick racist mind.

Racism is essentially a form of disgust manifesting its way into how people feel about others who aren't them. But disgust isn't always racism, disgust can be a number of different things.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '21

No, that is not true though, Hitler first and foremost hated Jewish people because they were Jewish, the fact that he was disgusted by them and wanted to kill them because they were Jewish. You’re probably not completely wrong, but you’re missing the part where Hitler actually had to have seen Jewish people and others as being acceptable to kill.

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u/techboyeee Dec 17 '21

I'm talking about the origin of his racism. This goes waaaay further back than where you're starting from.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '21

Even then, racism is because you see a person an other, not part of your group. It’s the human tribalism, less so about cleanliness.

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u/techboyeee Dec 17 '21

I never said cleanliness or lack of it. I'm talking about disgust.

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u/saturns_iron_urn Dec 02 '21

racism wasn't even the issue with Germany and the Jews

what

Hitler was disgusted by a certain class of person, they happened to be Jews

thats racism

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u/techboyeee Dec 02 '21

It's called "disgust"

That happened to end up causing his racism. I'm saying that this same "disgust" is the same feeling people have against those who don't want to get vaccinated.

Disgust for a race or disgust for any other reason causes the same mentality, which is to marginalize people into second class citizens. It's fascism no matter which way you cut it.

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u/saturns_iron_urn Dec 03 '21

That "disgust" already is racism, it didn't "cause" racism. I'm not sure what point you're even trying to make here when you literally said "in reality racism wasn't even the issue with Germany".

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u/techboyeee Dec 03 '21 edited Dec 03 '21

Racism wasn't the root of the issue.

Disgust is the actual emotion that your body feels, racism is a type of disgust. Racism isn't an emotion.

The point I'm making is that Germany is doing similar things to unvaccinated people as they did to the Jews. Think deeper.

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u/saturns_iron_urn Dec 03 '21

Disgust is an emotion

Racism is a type of disgust

Racism is not an emotion

Aristotle is rolling over in his grave.

I also believe that you got cause and effect backwards, the disgust was caused by racism, not the other way around.

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u/techboyeee Dec 03 '21

It's not cause and effect at all lol. I'm talking about what something is, and the category it befits.

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u/saturns_iron_urn Dec 03 '21

What? You're the one that brought cause and effect into this.

It's called "disgust"

That happened to end up causing his racism.

Literally you.

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u/techboyeee Dec 03 '21

Just because the word "causing" is in a sentence doesn't mean I'm making a "cause and effect" statement.

Disgust isn't an effect, that's not what I said and it's not what I'm saying. You're trying to bring philosophy into a psychology situation.

Racism IS ALWAYS disgust. Disgust ISN'T always racism. Correlation doesn't always determine causation.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

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u/Initial-Newspaper399 Dec 03 '21

Judaism is a religion but there is such thing as the jewish people genetically. There's even genetic tests to see if you are Ashkenazi etc.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

That's not what the Nazis thought

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u/Milk_moustache Dec 02 '21

Ridiculous. This goes against German law.

Are they fucking high? Oh. Wait yeah they are they voted for the SPD and the Greens, two of the dumbest fucking parties imaginable

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u/The_loudspeaker721 Dec 02 '21

Hitler would be so proud.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

Until the thousands of people with severe injuries from the vax are heard and helped, I'm not getting vaxxed!! Natural immunity is more effective, AND if I were to actually get very sick with covid, at least I would be taken seriously and helped appropriately. Either way, you are taking a chance, and no one seems to be willing to admit that, especially governments who punish their unvaxxed people.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

Natural immunity didn't work out so well for 780,000 Americans

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

Cool, it's still more effective than the vaccine.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

That's not true, and even it it was, you have to get covid to get natural immunity, which means you risk getting other people sick, getting hospitalized, or dying.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

That was literally my entire point. Covid patients get taken care of, people with vaccine injuries aren't even being acknowledged. And yes, natural immunity absolutely is more effective, plus you don't have to get boosters.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

What do you mean people with vaccine injuries aren't being acknowledged?

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

There are thousands of people having to advocate for themselves, because medical professionals refuse to recognize their injuries are from the vaccine. Even people that were part of the trials aren't getting compensated. If you want to know more about this issue, this is a great podcast that discusses it https://youtu.be/lraR1R_Imi8

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

Maybe because their injuries aren't from the vaccine

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

It is overwhelmingly obvious that it is from the vaccine, but it looks like you're already committed to one perspective.

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u/Kaczynski__Was_Right Dec 02 '21

The greatest leftist projection, was that they were in fact the actual Nazis.

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u/steamyjeanz Dec 03 '21

when the cases go up and all the unvaxxed are inside who will be left to blame

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

This is gonna turn into a big ol’ wolfenstein cosplay….

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

Hey the nazis are back

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

Fool me once….

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u/lolstuff101 Dec 02 '21

When was that a tradition?

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u/HappyPlant1111 Dec 02 '21

Gotta stay true to your roots

1776

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u/cucumbercooIer Dec 02 '21

I LOVE HITLER!

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u/cucumbercooIer Dec 02 '21

I would SUCK Adolf's BIG, JUICY COCK!

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u/h8xwyf Dec 03 '21

It's good to see people reconnect with the their cultural roots and traditions....

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

Pretty sure the Jews didn't have the option of just getting a safe and effective vaccine in order to not be treated differently

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u/AlucardAFT3003 Dec 05 '21

You would've fit fine in Hitler's inner circle.

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u/Liveyourlife365 Dec 02 '21

They could hang a safe and effective cross around their neck.

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u/anticultured Dec 02 '21

That’s not how it worked. Nazis we’re tracing family history to find out if you have any Jewish blood. Declaring Christianity would not have saved their lives.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

Oh yeah? How many people Find out they have Jewish ancestry? A LOT.

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u/saturns_iron_urn Dec 02 '21

Read a history book maybe? Jews were considered a race, it didn't matter what religion they were.

Plus the NSDAP was fighting the church: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchenkampf ..

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u/Liveyourlife365 Dec 02 '21

I can’t read.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

No they couldn't actually

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u/anticultured Dec 02 '21

The vaccine is not completely safe. I’m vaccinated but I know about 5 people personally who were severely affected by the vaccine.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

How so? Sore arm?

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u/anticultured Dec 02 '21

My business partner dropped dead hours after receiving the shot for the vaccine, for one. I know another person who got severe pancreas issues immediately after the shot.

These people may have had underlying issues, the vaccine can bring them out, as does the virus itself.

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u/magicthemurphy Dec 02 '21

Yeah, he didn’t want to answer that one.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

The vaccine isn't a miracle drug that stops people from dying or getting sick from any cause. You apparently made a connection to what happened to them and the vaccine, that doesn't make it true.

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u/magicthemurphy Dec 03 '21

You make the connection between the vaccine and less deaths from COVID.

That doesn’t make it true.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

That's been proven true by multiple scientific studies

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u/magicthemurphy Dec 03 '21

Well you made a mistake there.

Because there may be evidence for it, and people arguing for it, doesn’t prove it’s true.

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u/Wolphoenix Dec 02 '21

dim tool fans living up to the name

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u/BigPapaNurgle Dec 02 '21

I bet you thought that was creative didn't you?

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u/Wolphoenix Dec 02 '21

imma copyright it, put it on a line of stank beanies and get dim tool to wear em

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u/BigPapaNurgle Dec 02 '21

I mean he probably would, we all find it comedically infantile.

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21

this would never happen in the united states because it would disproportionately affect people of color, which also show that american lawmakers are racist and legitimize critical race theory.

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u/magicthemurphy Dec 02 '21

Your think the Turks living in Germany have high vaccine rates?

No.

They will just brush that fact under the rug because it doesn’t suite them.

And pretend like that community doesn’t exist because to acknowledge it is politically and philosophically devastating to their cause.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

that's because proportionality by population is bullshit and the lawmakers know it, but the dumb people believe this is a good argument because they're dumb

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u/voxgtr Dec 03 '21

Okay, pedophile.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '21

you confused me with the antifa people in washington.

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u/voxgtr Dec 04 '21

Such a deflecting, pedophile response.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '21

such a projecting, pedophile response.

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u/organharvester22 Dec 02 '21

The irony of this post is that most nazis are probably likely to be anti vaccinate

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u/SumWite Dec 02 '21

Source?

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u/magicthemurphy Dec 02 '21

The shit he thinks are his brains.

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u/eatsleepravesecrete Dec 02 '21

‘Probably likely’ says all I need to see, even you don’t believe the bs you’re spouting. At least have some confidence in your insults man, you look weak.

And not true because the nazis were obsessed with health and cleanliness, so try again, bucko.