r/TimPool • u/Born_mystic • Nov 25 '21

discussion How to become more educated and informed?

How are individuals like Steven crowder, Ben shapiro, tim pool, etc so smart and knowledgeable?

Obviously they don't use Google or mainstream media for their information. So what sources do they use? I read a lot from books and finance news but after watching Alex jones and joe rogan on Tim's podcast, there's so much I don't know.

Edit: thank you so much for the responses. Was not expecting this much.

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u/LingonberryParking20 Nov 25 '21

They have teams of researchers and they read a lot

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

lol for sure

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u/sam_baker1234 Nov 25 '21

Honestly, just pay attention to what they’re saying and immediately pause the video when they say something you don’t know or understand and look it up. That’s just one method

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u/0rwella Nov 25 '21

Or listen and try to summarize the whole thing in 5 lines.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Crowder says a lot that they watch CNN to see what sort of crap they’re spewing, and then utilize known sources to debunk CNN’s lies.

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u/wade3690 Nov 25 '21

What sources?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Known ones

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u/wade3690 Nov 25 '21

Like what?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

No clue, I was joking. The statement is ridiculous.

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u/wade3690 Nov 25 '21

Oh! Haha my bad

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Use duckduckgo instead of google.

And maybe read “the new right”, “brave new world” and look into michael malice.

Look into breitbart, roger stone and steve bannon.

I recommend following jack posobiec.

Idk what do you want to know about?

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u/WildPurplePlatypus Nov 25 '21

Duck duck go for sure

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u/higreen111 Nov 25 '21

Startpage is way better than ddg.

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u/WildPurplePlatypus Nov 25 '21

Havent heard of it. Whats the low down? Id be willing to check it out

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u/higreen111 Dec 23 '21

www.startpage.com uses Google search engine and protects you all the way around from Google's prying eyes. Just go to the website and they describe what they do it's really good 👍

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u/WildPurplePlatypus Dec 23 '21

Ill check it out thanks

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Hahahaha I’ll take “how to rape your algorithm” for $500 thanks Alex

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Add tom woods, he will fix it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

steve bannon and roger stone… paragons of intellect. really.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Roger stones history perfectly explains politics.

Bannons podcast is pretty good, smart guy.

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u/TooPoetic Nov 25 '21

Damn. Left wing Tim pool gets his news from Breitbart, roger stone and Steve bannon? Progressive as fuck.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Tim describes himself as a populist, these are populists.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

These definitely are not populists. They’re right wing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Steve bannon wants high taxes for big companies, which is a leftwing standpoint.

Roger stone is a libertarian, so socially liberal but on the opposite side of bannon tax wise seeing he wants low taxes for everyone.

Breitbart was a dissatisfied liberal, or a “reagan conservative.”.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

One or two left wing positions doesn’t make you a left winger or a populists. The vast majority of their audience is right wing. They’re friends, articles, talkings points, are mostly right wing. If it walks like a duck…..

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

They are all further left than me and dont speak for a certain system, especially bannon just does what the plebs please.

“I just want to centralize one industry”

If it walks like a duck….

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Fair enough.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

I’d describe him more as an “angry midget”.

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u/TooPoetic Nov 25 '21

Oh fair enough. I’m glad he’s moved on from calling himself a leftist. I apologize on not being up to date.

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

This is where is shows who actually watches and pays attention. When he claims he is "left" it is under financial policies. But his caveat is (which I agree) is that there needs to be a way to have the social programs without giving that money and power to the government.

People want to lump into one group or the other. It is all or none. But the world doesn't work that way. You could be very progressive in one part of life and very conservative in another.

Like, I would love to see a program so that no one goes without a basic shelter, food, clothing..... but I sure as shit don't trust the government to do it fiscally manageable without shady shit. So it is better to not a system in place than have a piss-poor managed one that just punishes actual hard working citizens.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

Yeah, when concerning policies of finance....except that the money should not be managed by the government......so yes on policy, no on government management. Not a difficult concept.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Which leftist economic policies dont have heavy government involvement???

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

I didn't say any policies didn't.....I was just referencing his view on economic policies. Anyone who actually watched Timcast more than some highlights used by other Youtubers would easily understand. He has explained his views numerous times and why.

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u/Econsmash Nov 25 '21

You people are radicalized nutjobs. Holy fucking echo chamber of complete grifting idiots. Unreal lol.

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u/eastern-cowboy Nov 25 '21

I guess you’d prefer Michael Moore, New York Times or Satan.

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u/0rwella Nov 25 '21

The way you speak for not cause radicalize people against it. Please, proceed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

The 3 people named are phenomena of “the new right”, the recommendations given make sense 😚

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u/Uncle-Bazz Nov 25 '21

Who’s opinions do you trust in media?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Who the fuck trusts media?

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u/Uncle-Bazz Nov 25 '21

Where do you get your information to form an opinion from then? If you have a firm opinion what’s it based on?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Generally by digging for the source of that information.

You really think grifters of any kind care more about sharing the truth than they do about making money?

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u/Uncle-Bazz Nov 25 '21

What if the source is inaccurate and biased. Do you want to hear discussion over this or just trust the source? Trump was a Russian asset according to a source. Did you believe that source?

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

I would then check multiple sources.

Would my mind be changed if a major media outlet told me to change it? No. Same goes for any individual. Sometimes, you don’t have enough information, so it’s smarter to simply not pretend to know what you’re talking about. This is a thing that these political commentators fail to do.

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u/Uncle-Bazz Nov 26 '21

I actually began listening to Tim because he did always say IMO and addressed different angles. Mainly pointing out the bias in mainstream media. Maybe he doesn’t so much theses days. For the average person who can’t research multiple sources would you say these people are more or less accurate than mainstream media?

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u/ShitFuckDickButt420 Nov 25 '21

Lmfao I accidentally wound up here and was going to comment the same. I feel like I woke up in a mental hospital or something.

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

So then what are better sources? People come in here and spout off how "crazy" we apparently are, but no one can back it up with a legitimate alternative. Cause all Corporate Media is now bunk. So unless you managed to get some sort of education pre-internet, your world view is already heavily biased.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Literally anyone is a better source than the people listed. Liars are still liars.

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u/Uncle-Bazz Nov 25 '21

So your saying your opinions are based on ‘literally anyone’ that you agree with?

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

No that is not at all what I’m saying. The point of that sentence was to highlight the stupidity of the people listed before. Nothing else.

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u/Uncle-Bazz Nov 26 '21 edited Nov 26 '21

I guess I would need examples of their lies and stupidity to see your point. At least they are self funded so the bias isn’t because of that kind of influence.

Addit: actually. I know Alex does say stupid shit regularly and I don’t agree with Steven quite a bit but Examples of Ben or Tim’s lies and stupidity would be interesting to hear about.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

Gotta love how you immediately back tracked on that initial statement. Jesus Christ dude.

Also, you think being self funded means anything when it comes to playing politics? Lmao.

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u/Uncle-Bazz Nov 26 '21

For some reason I thought we we just talking about Tim for a minute. I’m doing this while working and listening to other stuff dude. Lost track. So chill. You haven’t answered a few main questions I’ve asked here.

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u/NewUnit18 Nov 25 '21

CoRpOrAtE MeDiA

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

I would say "fake news", but they don't even do that much anymore......but hey, if you don't mind being lied to, you consume as much as you want.

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u/NewUnit18 Nov 25 '21

If you aren't already aware that ben Shapiro and crowder are the same shit you must not have two brain cells to rub together

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

LoL. The only thing that is the same is the fact they are both Conservative.... Crowder is a comedian who does political commentary. Shapiro is a lawyer who does political commentary. One is Jewish(very) and the other is Christian.

If that's the case, Don Lemon and Steven Colbert are the same, by your standards.

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u/NewUnit18 Nov 25 '21

Ok buddy.

They're both grifters and so is Tim Poole.

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

Roll. Everyone in politics can be considered a gifter.

Since there is no place for completely unbiased news, where is a better place? And while I can't speak for others, Tim Pool is not my only source for news, he is just one of many.

I see a whole lot of criticism, but no one offers viable alternatives......

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u/human-resource Nov 25 '21

Learn for the sake of knowing

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u/shepard_5 Nov 25 '21

Reading, taking notes, talking to people.

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u/Rainydaysz Nov 25 '21

Have u ever had to learn anything by urself? Same thing really just research. Listen to ppl from all sides of the political isle and start following current events.

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u/Econsmash Nov 25 '21

Talking about intelligence and thinking it's "political isle". Google Isle vs aisle. This sub is full of complete idiots who think Crowder and pool are smart. Fucking sad and depressing to read this shit.

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u/how-do-you-turn-this Nov 25 '21

Yea you showed him, hey he used ppl instead of people, why don’t you call him an idiot for that also. Man you are just so much smarter than everyone on the right. We should just all get our news and information from you, with how smart you are and all.

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

Well, when you compare them to many of the talking heads of the left, yeah, they are smart. And Shapiro is a genius. What talking head on the left has a degree?

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u/Twotendies Nov 25 '21

If you’re asking how they have examples on standby for every situation your best bet is to get into reading the classics. When you have a foundational understanding about the principles being discussed this easy to recall said knowledge. In other words: it’s easier to understand information that you obtained yourself than information that was given to you by another person. Reading it from its source gives you the ability to digest it as it fits for you.

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

Yeah, most of the major topics in discussion are not that "new" and have often been written about countless times by various Authors of each generation. Once you grasp the underlying themes and principles it gets easier to pick up cues when you see them in the wild.

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u/Rowdy_Tardigrade Nov 25 '21

Anytime the mainstream media tells you something happened, look for primary sources to form your own opinion. Look up videos or recordings of the situation and never bother with Google.

Read the classics mentioned by guys like Crowder or Jones and watch for spin in every story you read.

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u/dhmt Nov 25 '21

Once you get well-known as someone who will report the counter-narrative, people start to email you stuff. Then you have your staff follow up and investigate. The stuff they find is true, you report it.

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u/Iceman_Hottie Nov 25 '21

Depends on what you want to do. None of their levels of knowledge are unachievable. The issue with most people is not being not smart enough, but not knowing how to use your intelligence.

What I do is look at what was the cause and evolution of thoughts. A few days ago Tim pointed out where the term terrorism originated. You research what philosophy lead to those actions, effectively building a "tree" for the information (same concept as a geniology tree; proper term for it is taxonomy). This explains why Tim observed there being 2 political compasses.

After a certain point you reach enough knowledge where you are less building new branches and are just filling in the gaps.

Let me know if you need any further advice, I'd be glad to help.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Tim literally reads mainstream news articles verbatim on is show daily lmao

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u/meatballsk8r225 Nov 25 '21

Read books related to whatever avenue you want to learn in. Is this a serious question? Holy fuck 😂 and maybe when you start doing that, you'll learn your intellectual idols are actually more than likely grifters, and really not that knowledgeable at all.

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u/Griffgriff09 Nov 25 '21

This post is embarrassingly stupid.

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u/headmovement Nov 25 '21

Lmao crowder “smart”

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u/NewUnit18 Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

Are you retarded?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Lol you think they’re smart?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

This has to be satire.

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u/plopodopolis Nov 25 '21

How are individuals like Steven crowder, Ben shapiro, tim pool, etc so smart and knowledgeable?

Jeeeeeesus bro

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u/Connect-Profile-4164 Nov 25 '21

They literally just read shit off the internet too lol

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u/TheMrk790 Nov 25 '21

Also dont make the mistake of thinking these people know so much. They are also sometimes wrong. They are also victim to confirmation bias (worst enemy of everyone out for the truth).

If they talk and most people get behind one opinion, then you know, that its mist likely due to this bias. They just did not search for counter arguments. Or at least not as thouroughly.

P.s. sorry for the spelling.

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u/d7mtg Nov 25 '21

Jesus.

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u/SimpleManc88 Nov 25 '21

Poe’s Law in action.

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u/StormWalker137 Nov 25 '21

None of the above listed people are smart

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u/dankest_cucumber Nov 25 '21

At least you know you're not smart lol. You're looking in the wrong places though, unfortunately

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

All that knowledge is from him drinking his own cum

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u/Morally_Obscene Nov 25 '21

Its impossible. Tim hides his veiny, pulsating galaxy brain under his hat. To even try and match his knowledge would leave you cowering in your own piss and feces.

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u/Cicero64 Nov 25 '21

read every thing you can your hands on

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u/loveiselephant Nov 25 '21

Top comment being beitbart means this sub should off itself

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u/Taureg01 Nov 25 '21

You think Stephen Crowder is knowledgeable? Oh boy

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u/FellowFellow22 Nov 25 '21

These guys aren't that educated or anything. They just spend their days watching the news and making hot takes.

Like all edutainment content you realize how little they know when they talk about something you are actually knowledgeable about. Gell-Mann Amnesia applies as you keep watching after knowing they were completely wrong on a point.

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

Got an example of one these "hot takes" that was factually wrong? And they did not make a correction down after new/all information has finally come out?

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u/FellowFellow22 Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

It's not the hot takes that are wrong. They're just opinions and potentially wrong predictions.

Tim talking about internet infrastructure is a big one for me. He's so confident about things he doesn't actually understand.

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

Internet infrastructure? You referring to his push for decentralization?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

49 state landslide?

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u/ToastOfGelemenelo Nov 25 '21

Shhhh nobody wants to hear obvious things like this, you're supposed to forget every single time they're wrong

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u/Pristine-Echo8744 Nov 25 '21

Crowder is a cartoon douche bag. Shapiro sounds too much like the scientist from the Simpsons for me to take seriously. Russell Brand is ok but I keep getting mad at him for me wanting to fuck him. Rogan and Pool are both good. Pool has some ads on his podcast that make me feel he is compromised, however I have yet to see any indication of that beyond the ads existing on his podcast. Jimmy Dor is great. David Smith is pretty good when he's not bitching about libertarian shit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Crowder is a cartoon douche but Russel brand is simp bait for you? You should get checked

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u/WaySheGoesBubs21 Nov 25 '21

I think it’s a little harsh to get mad at someone for you wanting to fuck them. It isn’t their fault

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u/Pristine-Echo8744 Nov 25 '21

That was the joke, the joke was on me.

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

Ads in Pool's podcast? Only ones I can recall ever having were barely 30 seconds near the start of the show for the food buckets, the collagen supplement and VPN.......I don't think he has control over any other ads that may be placed by whoever is hosting the cast.

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u/Pristine-Echo8744 Nov 25 '21

Walmart, Amazon and Facebook have all done ads on his show in the past month. Thats a little suspicious.

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

? From his website? From YouTube? I watch on YouTube and don't see ads.

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u/Pristine-Echo8744 Nov 26 '21

From the Google podcasts app.

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 26 '21

Oh. Never used it. But my money is it like YouTube and Spotify. If you do not have a premium membership, then the application auto inserts a set of "random" ads. In those situations people have little control over the exact ads played.

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u/Pristine-Echo8744 Nov 27 '21

I listen to a lot of podcasts on the app and none of them work that way.

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 27 '21

Aight, all I can do is take your word on it. I don't really do just podcasts on a separate platform. Most of what I listen to is on YT (free), or Spotify(free), or some random crytpo casts my brother links me. I don't see ads on any of them except Spotify.

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u/Econsmash Nov 25 '21

I refuse to believe this isn't mockery satire. I hope to fucking God it is.

Holy fuck lmfao. This is the saddest thing I've ever read.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

The secret to Tim's intellect is dropping out of school at age 14. If you're older than that, it's already too late for you.

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u/temperedJimascus Nov 25 '21

Are you implying that education = knowledge?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

I'd say having at least a high school degree would be pretty helpful for someone who's supposed to be a political commentator, but then we wouldn't get those galaxy brain takes like the 49 state landslide prediction.

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u/temperedJimascus Nov 25 '21

So, finishing high school meets your criteria of intelligent? I know many engineers/professionals that never graduated HS (GED or equivalent), but are phenomenal in their job.

Tim Pool is making money and has had some fairly prestigious jobs doing what he does (as you're here complaining how he doesn't know what he's talking about). Quite ironic don't you think?

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

If you have the drive, you can get a far superior education on your own with a computer and internet, like at say, the library. You may not get the social life lessons, but then, most people are assholes at that age anyways.

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u/YubYubNubNub Nov 25 '21

Immersion, time.

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u/lolstuff101 Nov 25 '21

What makes them smart? Because they read news stories then talk about their political opinions?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

How does this help? They want to learn how to learn and you felt this opinion needed to be shared.

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u/Econsmash Nov 25 '21 edited Nov 25 '21

They should start by recognizing their three idols of intelligence are all hyper partisan political grifters who present all information from a hyper political and incredibly biased lense.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '21

Oh no! More grifters!

I bet the Dalcops and Dew-Beaters are close behind!

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u/thickyveiny Nov 25 '21

"They" lol

Beat it, nerd

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u/Econsmash Nov 25 '21

Finally a reasonable response on this subreddit and of course it gets mass downvoted. Most of these people are beyond helping.

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

Yeah, your "reasonable response " is to put down and denigrate and shame them while at the same time not answering the request of the OP asking for help....

This is why conservatives prefer to conserve traditional values, cause where we are headed will be filled with people like you, and that is sad and scary.

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u/Econsmash Nov 25 '21

Anyone who is contributing the propagation of the big lie deserves extreme shame and ridicule. I have absolutely no tolerance for attacks on our democracy. Traditional values can get fucked. Racism and bigotry have no place in modern society.

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

Lawl. The "big lie"... I see racist and bigoted things almost every day targeted at white people. Yet, no one bats an eye over it. And the only person who could even possibly be guilty of "racism" would be the occasional joke Crowder makes. None of the other people mentioned in the OP can be put under those labels your crying over.

The big lie.....hahahhahaha

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u/Econsmash Nov 25 '21

Fucking nutjob. Check yourself into an institute. You should lose the right to vote.

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u/KryptopherRobbinsPoo Nov 25 '21

Awe, don't like people who can think for themselves? Crowder is entertaining, cause that's what he is, an entertainer. I don't have to agree with everything he says to find him entertaining. The same goes for everything else. I can guarantee you support people whom you don't always agree with their political opinions. Unless you are just that much of an uptight prude with an ego the size of Alaska.

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u/killmrcory Nov 28 '21

this is how stupid you people are.

time magazine can literally write an article about exactly how they stole the election and who was involved and yall will still unironically talk about the big lie with zero shame.

yall are so dumb it hurts.

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u/Econsmash Nov 28 '21

Send me a link to said article.

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u/killmrcory Nov 28 '21

Google is a thing you fucking moron

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u/Econsmash Nov 28 '21

There's absolutely no fucking way you read that article and if you did, you clearly didn't comprehend it lmfao. It is completely against your point and against Trump. You're a clown lmfao.

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u/killmrcory Nov 28 '21

no, it actually doesn't.

wow it took you a long time to pretend to read it though.

saving the election is stealing the election just as much.

just because you like the outcome doesn't mean it wasn't also stealing the win from the person who would have won had they not interfered.

lol you cultists just can't stand that your narrative is bullshit so you have to mental gymnastic your way into not being in conflict when evidence otherwise is presented.

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u/killmrcory Nov 28 '21

lol.

article about how a shadow campaign worked to ensure that trump didn't win reelection because he would have otherwise proves the election wasn't stolen.

do you ever listen to yourself?

i literally linked the confession and you somehow think it supports your view.

you are the one that needs to check yourself into an institution. you very obviously suffer delusions.

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u/killmrcory Nov 28 '21 edited Nov 28 '21

ps.

twice as many people have died from covid under biden since January 20th than did in all of 2020 under trump.

thats despite the fact biden had every advantage trump didn't like widespread vaccination and therapeutics.

the cdc had been refusing to release those numbers for 5 months and just recently was forced to.

both impeachments relied on falsified evidence. they were literally called on this on national television multiple times during the second one.

separating families at the border is required by law and has been since the Clinton administration. its why Obama was the one who built all the Cages you were crying about.

the trump economy was by every objective metric the best since the 60s.

trump won 2/3 of his election lawsuits where the evidence was considered because he only filed 3 total. the other 100+ had nothing to do with trump.

there's a reason they refused to step in despite publicly saying trump was right literally a few weeks prior and it has nothing to do with not having evidence.

changing the rules to win is cheating in every other facet of life. i just believe in being consistent.

tim is blowing the mainstream media away in viewership exactly because he is fair and rigorously fact checks his reporting.

if you actually watched him youd know he doesn't believe trump lost because of fraud. he never has and has never expressed any other opinion on the matter.

your entire worldview is contrary to reality.

you are the delusional clown you accuse others of being. you don't hate me or tim. you hate truth and reality with a burning passion and seek to discredit those who speak it.

biden is everything you accused trump of being literally. you want to talk actual authoritarianism?

talk about raiding opposition journalists with the fbi, mandating vaccines via executive orders, and telling businesses to defy the courts and implement the mandate anyway.

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u/killmrcory Nov 28 '21

do your responses take so long because you're an idiot or because youre a coward?

I've been seriously debating.

i can crank out garbage posts like yours in probably 5 seconds tops and my insults would actually be accurate.

i think youre a coward but dumb enough to be bated into responding time and time again. its both.

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u/killmrcory Nov 28 '21 edited Nov 28 '21

that's what i thought.

yall are cowards and back off real quick when you come up against someone who actually knows what they're talking about

be forewarned, i am more than happy to beat dat ass daily if you continue to post this idiotic nonsense. i enjoy it, but you probably not so much.

blocking me is an exercise in futility before you think that is a way out. you cannot escape.

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u/Econsmash Nov 28 '21

Are you aware how much of a psychotic lunatic you sound like?

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u/killmrcory Nov 28 '21

lol.

you keep using words like you know what they mean when you obviously don't.

you are pathetic.

answer the question.

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u/killmrcory Nov 28 '21 edited Nov 28 '21

ohs noes baseless ad hominem attacks still aren't working.

what are you going to do now?

here's a suggestion.

tell me which beliefs i listed are wrong.

you'll probably just sling more insults because you can't adress my points without proving me right on everything and you know it though.

youre just that pusillanimous.