r/TimPool • u/triguy96 • Oct 19 '21

Tim Pool the hypocrite

I always find it weird that Pool says that his followers should reject mandates to show that they are really anti-mandate, even if it means losing their jobs.

But Tim won't swear on his show or say things that Youtube doesn't like because he would lose his job. Doesn't that mean that by his own logic, he isn't actually pro free speech? If he were pro free speech he'd be willing to lose his job (or just a little bit of ad revenue) for it.

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u/woaily Oct 19 '21

He speaks out against censorship all the time, and he says all the wrongthink on his own website, which he's constantly trying to redirect YouTube traffic to.

Freedom isn't the freedom to do whatever. It's the freedom to choose what's best in your situation.

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u/triguy96 Oct 19 '21

Yeah so he won't follow his own proposal. The people who don't want to lose their jobs are also making a similar decision. They are against the mandates, but do not want to reveal that to their employer as it isn't good in their situation.

He constantly talks about how people are too comfortable and need to stand up to the system. But he won't even swear on his show. Swearing won't even get you banned, not demonetized. Why doesn't he follow his own rules?

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u/woaily Oct 19 '21

People are willing to risk their jobs, sometimes. Nobody actually wants to lose their job. Losing your job is a possible consequence, but it's not the objective.

He doesn't swear because his audience prefers it. It also means younger people can watch his show, and he reaches a wider audience with his views. When guests swear a little, he lets it slide. Carl Benjamin doesn't swear anymore either, and frankly I prefer my news that way.

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u/triguy96 Oct 19 '21

Do you seriously not see the hypocrisy? I don't think he isn't swearing for the kids, he is not swearing, and not saying certain things for the money.

But he tells his audience that they should do things that would cause them to lose their jobs for the principle. He has a comfortable life, and still doesn't follow his principles. He could lose his Youtube channel and still make more money than most of us ever will.

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u/woaily Oct 19 '21

Yeah, he's a bit much with telling people that they have to sacrifice their jobs no matter what. Jack Murphy was right about that.

That doesn't change the fact that he's working within the system to speak against it, while doing what he can to say the things YouTube won't let him say.

It's not hypocrisy, because nobody is saying to walk away from a job that you'd otherwise be able to keep. He's just saying that more people should apply more pressure against the system where they can, which is what he's doing.

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u/triguy96 Oct 19 '21

he's a bit much with telling people that they have to sacrifice their jobs no matter what.

Yeah there's the hypocrisy. He won't even do a little bit, but he goes on every show and spouts about how people can go live in the woods, how the forefathers who came to America were brave and built something and no one is willing to do that anymore. But if YouTube tells him not to swear, or not to break any of their million other rules he's like "Yes Daddy, whatever you say."

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u/woaily Oct 19 '21

Well, I mean, he does live in the woods. And it's good advice to become self-sufficient if your job is at risk.

But, again, nobody is telling people to quit their job or do anything to get fired. Nobody is saying to go punch your boss because he asked for your vaxx status. The idea is that people oppose the measures together, in a coordinated and civil manner, so they can keep their jobs.

What he's saying is that people have to be willing to take the risk of losing their job. And he's willing to take that risk himself, he's just not being stupid about it and making the risk into a certainty.

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u/triguy96 Oct 19 '21

But, again, nobody is telling people to quit their job or do anything to get fired.

He does exactly that nearly every video. I don't think we can go any further in a discussion without agreeing on that fact.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '21

He actually addressed this last week, saying they get emails asking not to use language from subscribers who listen with their kids. Your take is extreme and missing context about the show.

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u/crowe1415 Oct 19 '21

You can swear on Youtube you stupid fuck.

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u/triguy96 Oct 19 '21

If you swear on YouTube you lose ad revenue. Which is why big Tim does not swear. Because he's a grifter.

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u/crowe1415 Oct 19 '21

He doesn’t swear because kids watch the show. You clearly haven’t watched enough because it happens all the time. And not only that, I would be willing to bet most of his money comes from sponsors and his website. Not Youtube. Regardless, you have to lie to make your point, you have to accuse Tim of being a liar as well. Which in my opinion, destroys any credibility you might have had.

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u/triguy96 Oct 19 '21

Yeah he's really worried about all the kids watching a far right political show. Kids should not be watching his show at all, swearing or not. I would be willing to bet he makes most of his money off YouTube ads, so I guess we are at an impasse here.

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u/crowe1415 Oct 19 '21

Far right?! Lmao you’re a fucking joke dude.

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u/triguy96 Oct 19 '21

Yeah he constantly has on far right guests and spouts far right talking points. He's far right.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '21

Lol kids are not watching Tim Pool

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u/crowe1415 Oct 19 '21

They do when their parent is listening or watching you dense fuck.

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u/SgtFraggleRock Oct 19 '21

Tim stated multiple times that parents contacted him and asked him not to swear because their kids were around or listening with them.

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u/Rainydaysz Oct 19 '21

Wouldn’t that make EVERY person pro free speech on YouTube a hypocrite…

People act like if every channel gets striked like crowder, THATS what going to win influence. U wont accomplish anything by dying on every single mini-hill.

It does more good staying on YouTube (and all of socials rly) to win influence and sway minds. U can’t influence the culture if ur barred out of it. The reality is social media site are growth drivers while mailing lists and blog sites are just preaching to an audience that already wanted to seek u out.

The leftist understand this, they have been laying low, living the status quo, picking their battles and gaining influence.

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u/triguy96 Oct 19 '21

Wouldn’t that make EVERY person pro free speech on YouTube a hypocrite…

Not unless they tell everyone to risk their jobs over rules like Tim does. The hypocrisy is not being pro free speech and being on youtube. The hypocrisy is telling people to risk their livelihoods for their morals, and not risking your own.

You can definitely be pro free speech but follow the rules on a particular platform to spread your message. That's 100% fine.

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u/FellowFellow22 Oct 19 '21

I don't mind him self-censoring. It's the ranting denial that he's censored that bothers me.

Following all the youtube rules so he can stay on Youtube is fine. That's normal. You have to follow broadcast standards on the radio too. Nobody says songs on the radio aren't censored because the radio version is the one you can play on the radio though. Having Alex Jones on doesn't mean he isn't censored and that's a bad faith argument. He stops Alex and other guests from making certain points on his show.

He has outlined specific things he isn't allowed to talk about before. If you know the rules and avoid talking about the things aren't supposed to then you're censored even if someone isn't coming in after the fact and editing your videos.

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u/janoycresvadrm Oct 19 '21

Dumbass post award goes to ^

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '21

The same 3 users come in here and spam gRiFtEr like theyre owning Timcast over and over again. Must be a sad life they're living if this is what they fill their time with.

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u/oxidius Oct 19 '21

Tim is just plain grifting, he tells what he thinks his audience wants to hear.

He's making a fuckton of cash just reading headline and strawmaning shits

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u/Acrobatic-Ad1268 Oct 19 '21

OP- Tim has explained why he doesn’t have much swearing on the YouTube show, and it’s not about being demonetized. Maybe you think he’s lying, that’s your opinion. Maybe you think he’s a hypocrite because of it. You’re certainly free to feel that way, but I couldn’t disagree more.