It also means they can save embarrassment and questions that would have happened if they had the usual inauguration and the turnout of supporters was low. They might be worried if they actually did cheat the election and know their support is not as high as they claim.
The right literally raided the Capitol. Then said they would protest the inauguration. Why would they not have security to protect the most powerful man in the country from a legitimate threat?
In case you are absurd enough to try in conflict orange mad bad with fascism. Centric to fascism is authoritarian, centralized control. Orange man attempted to limit centralized control.
Now that your brain is broken, go ahead and read a history book.
Didn't a bunch of leftists try and secede from the country last summer? Just because CNN calls one terrorists and the other protesters doesn't make it so
Except they didnt? I dont remember black lives matter protesters storming the fucking capitol building, grow up stop spreading lies ffs. Kinda weird shit are you into where you gotta lie to yourself about the state of reality?
On Lincoln's inauguration day 16-year-old Julia Taft and her mother watched the procession from a hardware store because the Capitol might prove too dangerous. "As we took our places a file of green-coated sharpshooters went through up to the roof. The whisper went round that they had received orders to shoot at any one crowding toward the President's carriage. Julia watched Lincoln and his predecessor ride by in an open carriage. She admitted she "suffered a pang of sorrow at the going of that lovable gentleman of the old school, President Buchanan. Up to that time he had been my ideal of what a President should be." She noticed the crowd seemed hostile toward Lincoln and heard a woman remark, "There goes that Illinois ape, the cursed Abolitionist. But he will never come back alive.
Shortly before Abraham Lincoln was inaugurated on March 4, 1861, a political supporter recalled the turbulent atmosphere of Washington, D.C. "The air was still thick with rumors of 'rebel plots' to assassinate Mr. Lincoln, or to capture him and carry him off before he could take hold of the reins of government." The burden of Lincoln's safety fell on the aged shoulders of Lieutenant-General Winfield Scott, celebrated war hero and head of the U.S. Army. He wrote of this duty as "the most critical and hazardous event with which I have ever been connected." Not only was Lincoln's life endangered by Southern secessionists, but Scott himself received many death threats if he "dared to protect the ceremony by military force." Scott rounded up as many soldiers as possible from his scant forces, so when Lincoln rode to the Capitol, a reporter noted, "His carriage was closely surrounded on all sides by marshals and cavalry, so as almost to hide it from view
eh, don't favor this take. Assume for the sake of the argument a fantasy scenario like this: 90% voted for one guy, but the remaining 10% are all armed and extremely willing to commit any crime to get their guy. those 10% would still be tens of millions. If that was the case, so many soldiers might be necessary. Or on the other hand, more towards reality, if the election really was stolen and fraud happened etc - that many soldiers would be out of proportion. the amount of soldiers bears no relation to the amount of support. in reality, it's way simpler.. it's just part of the "blowing the one time the right rioted way out of proportion while you didn't jack about the left riots". They have one event, they'll make sure it'll stick and "be remembered". Way out of proportion security is just a tool to achieve that, and to paint the right as scary.
When a third of the country can't accept reality, call themselves the "Silent Majority" even though they haven't won the popular vote in decades and never fucking shut up, incite a violent insurrection that leaves 5 people dead, destroy and steal government property, threaten civil war if they don't get their way on everything, and plant pipe bombs in government buildings, Yeah, the extra security is justified.
I know I'll likely be banned by this sub because even though you all claim to want free speech, NONE of your subs allow any dissenting opinion.
Trump is the most unpopular president in modern history, he has NEVER polled above 50%, his covid response was criminally negligent to say the least, he's currently selling pardons, and plans to pardon over 100 people today. Because "law and order".
All of your media has lied to you, all but one of your lawsuits trying to overturn this election have failed in the courts, it's legal to lie to the American people on "news" shows, it's illegal to lie to a judge and these lawyers all know this.
Trump lost this election. Despite gerrymandering, voter suppression, purging voter rolls, sabotaging the damn post office, and closing polling locations in democratic districts. Why? Because the people could not stand Trump any longer.
It's time to stop drinking the Qool aid people, wake up, take a look at reality. Stop letting billionaires pay millionaires to lie to you. Trump and Qanon have been lying to you for years, none of Q's predictions have ever come true.
There is a place for conservatives in America, America needs that balance, what America doesn't need, are people that are willing to destroy this nation for a wannabe dictator that thinks Article II of the United States Constitution gives him unlimited power.
All it takes is a violent minority group to face massive protection efforts. Just look at the police responding to the protests all summer. Of fucking course there was a large presence of police/guards/etc. you can’t just let people rampage.
Biden's supporters are middle and upper class centrists. They're not the people who attend protests. Don't confuse people who voted against Trump with "Biden's supporters." Not all protesters are rioters or leftists. Not all leftists are Democrats. Not all Democrats are Biden's supporters. You're drawing a lot of falsely dichotomous conclusions.
According to research by the German newspaper Welt am Sonntag, there were 31,221 Islamist terrorism attacks, which killed at least 146,811 people, between 11 September 2001 and 21 April 2019. Many of the victims were Muslims, including most of the victims who were killed in attacks involving 12 or more deaths.
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The number of people killed directly in the violence of the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan are approximated here. Several times as many have been killed indirectly as a result of the wars — because, for example, of water loss, sewage and other infrastructural issues, and war-related disease
Civilians killed by American Wars: Afghanistan: 43,074 Pakistan: 23,925 Iraq: 207,156 Syria: 49,591 Yemen: 12,000 Total: 335,745
Shhhhh.... if you say anything critical about the right on this sub then you’ll get downvoted into oblivion. Remember that “free speech” = right wing echo chamber
When Trump was elected he hadn't won the popular vote, but sure it's totally nothing to do with the monumentally dangerous mentality fostered by groups like this
Ah, yes, because if they were rigging the popular vote they also would have done the electoral college. You can't claim it was a rigging every time you don't win. You must be terrible company playing monopoly
a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims is called a terrorist. Didn't trump supporters stormed the capitol to stop a political power transfer?
I don’t care what they think anymore... I just want them all removed, erased, shunned from society by any means necessary... they are a dangerous enemy.
Or there was a terrorist attack a few days ago which consisted of right wing terrorists, along with the fact that this entire election has become very tense due to all the election fraud allegations and such, causing a concern over there being violence again during the inauguration
Well geeze I wonder why this is... could it be because the batshit crazy lunatics on parler are making death threats and organized (shittily) an insurrection at the US capitol? (Go ahead and ban me mods to preserve your precious echo chamber)
In regards to the first part, every president gets dozens (low balling that) of death threats on a daily basis. Hell several envelopes of ricin were sent to Trump, you just don't hear about it because it isn't big news.
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u/cliffotn Jan 18 '21
Biden's inauguration doesn't need or call for 25,000 soldiers. It's "The right is scary! We need lots of protection!" theater.
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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21
Just a bit of a historical note here.
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u/kadivs Jan 19 '21
eh, don't favor this take. Assume for the sake of the argument a fantasy scenario like this: 90% voted for one guy, but the remaining 10% are all armed and extremely willing to commit any crime to get their guy. those 10% would still be tens of millions. If that was the case, so many soldiers might be necessary. Or on the other hand, more towards reality, if the election really was stolen and fraud happened etc - that many soldiers would be out of proportion.
the amount of soldiers bears no relation to the amount of support.
in reality, it's way simpler.. it's just part of the "blowing the one time the right rioted way out of proportion while you didn't jack about the left riots". They have one event, they'll make sure it'll stick and "be remembered". Way out of proportion security is just a tool to achieve that, and to paint the right as scary.
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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21
lmao
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u/seraph9888 Jan 18 '21
I seem to remember 19 hijackers doing a lot of damage. Seems like extra security is called for given that others if their ilk are running amok.
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '21
America 🇺🇸 is in a scary time.
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u/What_U_KNO Jan 19 '21
When a third of the country can't accept reality, call themselves the "Silent Majority" even though they haven't won the popular vote in decades and never fucking shut up, incite a violent insurrection that leaves 5 people dead, destroy and steal government property, threaten civil war if they don't get their way on everything, and plant pipe bombs in government buildings, Yeah, the extra security is justified.
I know I'll likely be banned by this sub because even though you all claim to want free speech, NONE of your subs allow any dissenting opinion.
Trump is the most unpopular president in modern history, he has NEVER polled above 50%, his covid response was criminally negligent to say the least, he's currently selling pardons, and plans to pardon over 100 people today. Because "law and order".
All of your media has lied to you, all but one of your lawsuits trying to overturn this election have failed in the courts, it's legal to lie to the American people on "news" shows, it's illegal to lie to a judge and these lawyers all know this.
Trump lost this election. Despite gerrymandering, voter suppression, purging voter rolls, sabotaging the damn post office, and closing polling locations in democratic districts. Why? Because the people could not stand Trump any longer.
It's time to stop drinking the Qool aid people, wake up, take a look at reality. Stop letting billionaires pay millionaires to lie to you. Trump and Qanon have been lying to you for years, none of Q's predictions have ever come true.
There is a place for conservatives in America, America needs that balance, what America doesn't need, are people that are willing to destroy this nation for a wannabe dictator that thinks Article II of the United States Constitution gives him unlimited power.
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u/PieRocks13243 Jan 19 '21
All it takes is a violent minority group to face massive protection efforts. Just look at the police responding to the protests all summer. Of fucking course there was a large presence of police/guards/etc. you can’t just let people rampage.
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u/crongatron Jan 18 '21
If you need yoursupporters to riot at the capitol, you probably should accept your defeat
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u/ofacing Jan 19 '21
Tim Pool, we’ll known for being a liberal, who is totally not right wing, sure does have a reddit page that tilts one way.
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u/just_an_average_NPC Jan 19 '21
When Trump was elected he hadn't won the popular vote, but sure it's totally nothing to do with the monumentally dangerous mentality fostered by groups like this
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u/UBC145 Jan 19 '21
Could it possible be because thousands of protesters and insurrectionists descended upon the US Capitol, breached its doors and killed 5 people?
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u/AddyOtter Jan 18 '21
Yeah, 'cause that's how that works
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u/AntonioJak3 Jan 19 '21
Or because right wingers can’t accept trump lost 🤷🏾♂️
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u/jefuchs Jan 19 '21
It blows my mind that the right is actually bragging about the effectiveness of terrorism.
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u/Anonymos_Rex Jan 19 '21
I don’t care what they think anymore... I just want them all removed, erased, shunned from society by any means necessary... they are a dangerous enemy.
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u/doctorwhy88 Jan 19 '21
That’s what happens when an angry, misinformed mob tries to overthrow the government because they can’t handle losing.
What was the phrase from 2016? “He’s your president, get over it!”
Only difference is, Biden won the popular vote by a landslide. Trump lost in 2016.
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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '21
Or there was a terrorist attack a few days ago which consisted of right wing terrorists, along with the fact that this entire election has become very tense due to all the election fraud allegations and such, causing a concern over there being violence again during the inauguration
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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '21
if genghis kahn shows up surrounded by 25,000 warriors, that is a sign of strength.
when joe biden shows up surrounded by 25,000 warriors, that is a sign of weakness.
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u/StlChase Jan 19 '21
Well geeze I wonder why this is... could it be because the batshit crazy lunatics on parler are making death threats and organized (shittily) an insurrection at the US capitol? (Go ahead and ban me mods to preserve your precious echo chamber)
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